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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: lorrainec on Monday 10 February 14 02:20 GMT (UK)
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Hello!
I am trying to locate a marriage that, according to the Scottish census was held Oct 2 1864 in Inverin Galway between Mary Mulcarron and Martin Wallace.
I have found a marriage between Martin Wallace and Mary Kearns, Oct 25 1864 ... I am trying to determine if these are one and the same or two different couples.
I have no information on either - no parents, nothing.
My Martin was a dock labourer and he and Mary moved to Govan Scotland in 1865, where their first born was born!
Any help is grately appreciated
Lorraine
Canada
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I am trying to determine if these are one and the same or two different couples. The answer is yes and no and maybe ???
To start with, marriage dates, and places, taken from Scottish birth certificates are not always accurate. I have seen families where 5 or 6 Scottish birth certificates give all give slightly different details for parents' marriage and none of them turn out to be 100% correct.
Where the couple Catholic? if so they might have been married before 1864 (say 2 Oct.1863) and civil registration of Catholic marriages only started in 1864.
Are you getting the 25 Oct. marriage from FamilySearch? if so, not all records are in those extracted records.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG8Y-XQK
There seem to be lots of Martin Wallaces in Galway in the 1901 census (years later than the marriage you are looking for but gives an idea of the popularity of the name).
One point that doesn't eliminate the marriage you found is that the extracted LDS births doesn't show the couple having children in Ireland after your couple has moved to Scotland.
Are Martin and his wife in 1911 census? if so, married women were asked how many years married. Do you have birth certificates for all the children? this may give you different dates. Have you traced your couple in each possible census record (in case they happen to have relatives staying with them)?
Last point is the locations in both marriages. The townlands of Inverin & Killannin are about 20 miles apart (by road). Inverin (Inveran) townland is in the civil parish of Killanin and Poor Law Union/registration of Galway. The LDS records sometimes give the registration district but other times the sub-district without clarifying that in the record.
So, at the moment the answer is maybe, maybe not but certainly keep it as a posssibility.
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;D ha! you gave me a laugh!
This is why I love the detective work of genealogy .... !
I will keep looking!
I am getting the Oct 2 1864 date from birth registrations of the children of Mary and Martin Wallace in Govan. Their first child was born in 1865 in Govan ... and it says Oct 2 1865, Inverin, Ireland as the marriage place/date.
Cheers!
Lorraine
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Hi There
As far as I can see the surname Mulcarron does not exist in Ireland.
Have you gotten this same surname from all of her children ?
Was Mary AND Martin Irish ?
Tara
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I can see you are also working on this family on another thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=676081.0
Tara
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Hello!
I am trying to locate a marriage that, according to the Scottish census was held Oct 2 1864 in Inverin Galway between Mary Mulcarron and Martin Wallace.
I have found a marriage between Martin Wallace and Mary Kearns, Oct 25 1864 ... I am trying to determine if these are one and the same or two different couples.
wonder if you should search for variants of Mulkerrin/Mulkeeran/Mulkerin/ Mulkern surnames frequently found in Galway.
annclare
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Hello!
I am trying to locate a marriage that, according to the Scottish census was held Oct 2 1864 in Inverin Galway between Mary Mulcarron and Martin Wallace.
What religious denomination were Martin and Mary RC or C of I?
annclare
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Hi Annclare
As far as I can determine, my Wallaces were CofI
I did a quickie search for variants of Mulcarron, as you suggested and the only one that came up was Kearns.
This is just so aggravating.
I have posted on the Govan Scotland forum to take my inquiries from the Scottish view. I posted here to see if I missed something on the date of the wedding.
The date of the wedding, Oct 2 1864 comes from 5 or 6 of Mary and Martin's children's birth registrations, all were born in Govan.
Thanks!
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Order it up, then you'll know...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYMJ-T61
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYMP-L2J
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Hi Annclare
As far as I can determine, my Wallaces were CofI
I did a quickie search for variants of Mulcarron, as you suggested and the only one that came up was Kearns.
rootsireland.ie (pay site) has a church marriage for Martin Wallace and Mary Kearns in 1865 in Killannin Church of Ireland Parish Killannin would cover Invern ( Inveran) to see the transcript record costs abou 5 euros. Just register and buy credits 25 per view.
Probably worthwhile
annclare