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Title: thompson
Post by: raggyroo on Sunday 16 February 14 21:08 GMT (UK)
hi im looking for info on a Robert Thompson an his parents which I think would of been born in 1873 but I worked that out from his marrage cert he was married on 29 nov 1895 in inverness and he was 22 years old. Robert Thompson married a Margaret McDonald. on his marriage cert his parents was Robert Thompson and annie Anderson but that's all I have any help would be ace thanks
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Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 16 February 14 22:23 GMT (UK)
Where was he born?
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Post by: raggyroo on Tuesday 18 February 14 22:01 GMT (UK)
well as all I have is his marrage cert and he was married in inverness I have to take the chance that he may have been born in inverness but I don't know that's why I thougth id ask for some help on the matter as all the info  have collected for him is in my first post thnks
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Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 18 February 14 22:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Raggyroo

What was his occupation? Have you tried to find him and Margaret in 1901/11? Not sure which of their children you may be following.

The only couple I can see with an Inverness connection (and a birth year close to what you have for Robert) in 1901 is this one:

Robert Thomson 30 Railway Engine Driver, b. Aberdeen
Maggie Thomson 30 b. Glenurguhart, Invernessshire
Donald Thomson 4 b. Glenurguhart, Invernessshire
Robert Thomson 2 b. Glenurguhart, Invernessshire
Peter Thomson 3 Months b. Inverness

Address: Haugh Rd No 29, Inverness

Monica
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Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 18 February 14 22:11 GMT (UK)
What was Robert's father's occupation on his 1895 marriage? Margaret's age, parents' details and witnesses?

Monica
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Post by: raggyroo on Tuesday 18 February 14 22:56 GMT (UK)
I thanks or your reply I think it may be the right family but here is the info you asked for Roberts occupation wen married was an engine driver in a sawmill they were married by a warrant but I coudnt make out the witnesses names sorry. Margret was a domestic servent and her parents was Donald McDonald and a mary lee. Roberts fathers occupation was a house carpentier (master) as far as I can work out but the cert wasn't very good written. but in more search the nite I have found margarets death she died on the 16 dec 1937 at age 64 at 44 south drive inverness hope that helps just going to check cen records now x
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 18 February 14 23:05 GMT (UK)
Which of their children are you descended from
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Post by: raggyroo on Tuesday 18 February 14 23:11 GMT (UK)
that's the thing I have just noticed that the child my partner is related to isn't in the 1901 cen cos the one hes related to is called james and the other 2 I have got are called peter and Norrie peter born 1900 to 1977 and all I have for Norrie is born 1917
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Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 19 February 14 00:12 GMT (UK)
Sorry but your reply above is very confusing - can you look at it again and clarify exactly who you are looking for and their details

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cen cos the one hes related to is called james and the other 2 I have got are called peter and Norrie peter born 1900 to 1977 and all I have for Norrie is born 1917
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: raggyroo on Wednesday 19 February 14 08:22 GMT (UK)
i cant see why it is confuseing as you asked which one my partner was related to but in looking back at my research I found out the children monicaL found for me are different from the ones I found for the couple. but in simple terms im looking for info on the people mentioned in my very first post
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Post by: ev on Wednesday 19 February 14 09:18 GMT (UK)
SP has a Peter Thompson death 1977 Inverness , born c1901 , mother's maiden name McDonald.

If that is the correct one , it may be that he was born just after the 1901 Census.


ev

Added - correction , I see there is a Peter on the 1901 details provided by Monica.

Adding marriage Norrie Thompson(1936 Inverness , Inverness) -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=633067.msg4807861#msg4807861
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 10:57 GMT (UK)
Margaret McDonald a little more straightforward to find. This looks to be her birth entry here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYGT-Y7J  Some siblings born in Greenock (Ruth https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ7N-H56 and Peter https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQTL-124 for example).

Possible entry for 1881:

Mary McDonald 36 Joiners Wife b. Ireland
Peter McDonald 13
Ruth McDonald 11
Margaret McDonald 7
Ann McDonald 5 b. Urquhart

Address: Drumnadrochit, Urquhart and Glenmoriston

Monica
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 11:03 GMT (UK)

Roberts fathers occupation was a house carpentier (master) as far as I can work out but the cert


What was Robert Thomson's mother's name? Nothing obvious yet jumping out for him. Hopefully having mother's name for him may help  :)

The 1911 census entry for the family would help you in re-confirming names for the household etc. I think the family show, from general searches, as you would think in Inverness. On this possible census entry (remember, I haven't seen it, just general search), the Robert I came across was aged 40.

There is this possible entry for a birth in Aberdeen https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYT4-H2N in 1870 and then this 1881 entry - everyone born in Aberdeen:

Robert Thomson 48 plumber
Elizabeth D Thomson 16
William Thomson 14
John S Thomson 12
Robert Thomson 10
Mary Ann R Thomson 8

Address: York Place, Aberdeen St Nicholas

Monica
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: raggyroo on Wednesday 19 February 14 11:48 GMT (UK)
I don't have any info on Robert Thompson  senior at all as I cant even find a marriage for him and annie anderson
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Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 11:57 GMT (UK)
Sorry, you did say Robert's mother was called Annie Anderson from your first post  :P Will look around again...

Monica
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Post by: Flattybasher9 on Wednesday 19 February 14 12:01 GMT (UK)
A Robert Thomson married Ann Anderson, 1869, Old Machar, Aberden City.

Note, two different spellings of Thomson/Thompson have crept into this post.

Regards

Malky
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Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 12:05 GMT (UK)
Thompson (with the p) being the more standard English spelling of the surname....The Scottish version is normally without the p.

Good find Malky!

Monica
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Post by: raggyroo on Wednesday 19 February 14 12:21 GMT (UK)
the marriage cert for Robert and margaret
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Post by: raggyroo on Wednesday 19 February 14 12:42 GMT (UK)
here is margarets death cert and it shows the same parents as on the marriage cert
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 20:18 GMT (UK)
raggyroo, just adding to what you have so far...not necessarily anything clearer for Robert Thomson. You have Margaret's death now which confirms what we have from her marriage, birth entry and likely census with her family. Think she is quite straightforward to work back from there.

Robert is the problem  :-\ Everything I have seen so far, seems to have something different.

You have his marriage entry with parents' names of Robert Thomson, house carpenter master and Annie Anderson, both deceased at the time of his marriage in 1895 in Inverness.

You have on this post that Ev mentioned a son (I thought Norrie was a girl  :P) marrying in 1936 in Inverness, father Robert deceased by now. I think Norrie was born in Ardersier in 1917, fits with his marriage age in 1936.

I think this is Robert's death below in 1918 in Ardesier. Issues with mother's name in general. Death reported by wife Margaret McDonald. From this, if his age is more accurate, he looks to have been born c. 1867/8. I think also his age from 1911 general searches showed as c. 40...so issues there too.

Title: Re: thompson
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 20:42 GMT (UK)
Going back to Malky's mention of a marriage in 1869 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJW-94H - bride shows as Mary Ann Anderson.

I can only see one birth with parents with that name here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYRZ-4DC ....maybe married just before child's birth givent those dates, and then, I'm lost again with that!

Added: Maybe this one for 1871:

Robert Thomson 23 police constable b. Selkirk
Mary A Thomson 31 b. Aberdeen
Mary Thomson 2 b Aberdeen

Address: No 63 College St, Old Marchar

Don't think this group is connected  :-\
Title: Re: thompson
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 19 February 14 21:23 GMT (UK)
OK, just because this search for Robert is so complicated, which at some point makes you wonder whether he may have been illegitimate, and also the names for mother are varying as are Robert's age and his father's occupation, just adding this birth entry from 1870:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYT4-HMK

Jane comes up on his death cert in 1918...although no surname  :-\

Following on with my theory that Robert may have been registered as Anderson, there is this 1871 census entry:

Peter Anderson 44 general labourer
Ann Anderson 43 b. Edinburgh
Jane Anderson 21 daughter b.
Rob Brown 7 Months
grandson b. Aberdeen
Margaret Anderson 13 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYR4-3YV
Mary Anderson 7 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYRW-5VF
Agnes Anderson 5 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYR4-673

Address: 7 Peacocks Close, Aberdeen St Nicholas

Maybe this is the source of the name Peter born in 1901 to Robert and Margaret (Peter Anderson)?

Monica

Added: All fine and good as a possibily, but cannot jump from here to the surname Thomson so far... :-\

Also, there is this entry for 1881, still closer to Brown than Thomson:

Jane Anderson 28 millworker
Maggie Anderson 23 millworker
Mary Anderson 18 millworker
Robert Brown 10...son of Jane

Address: 6 Murrays Court 24 L St West, Aberdeen