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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Moray (Elginshire) => Topic started by: morgan 55 on Monday 17 February 14 13:40 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone wonder if anyone could help looking for this lady she was born Robina Jack 18th June 1870 at 8 Waterside st Bishopmill Elgin moray she was born illigitamate her mother was Jessie Ritchie and her father was recorded as Alexander Jack her mother married an Alexander Riach in 1877. Robina turns up on the 1901 census she says her name is Robina J Riach and that she was born in America she was not born in America and she has taken her step fathers name i can not find anything else on her the family story says she went to America not sure.Her occupation was a house maid. Have been looking for some years now can anyone help.
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Hi Morgan,
Does this relate to Robina on the 1881 Census - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMDV-59Q
Robina Jack birth year approx 1871 Elgin, Moray.
Looby :)
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Well done Looby, that is her :)
From 1881:
Jane Ritchie 56 outdoor worker b. Rafford, Elgin
Daniel Ritchie 25 son army reserve b. New Spynie, Elgin
Robina Jack 10 grandchild b. New Spynie, Elgin
Address: 8 Waterside, Elgin
Fits with this submitted family info here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/3SM2-T9S
Monica
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Hi again Morgan,
I've been browsing about trying to find out more details, So far no joy!
But can you fill in a bit more please?
What ages were Alexander Riach and Jessie Ritchie when they married? Have you found this couple on 1881, 1891 , 1901 Censuses? Where was Robina Riach at the time of the 1901 Census and what age is recorded?
Thanks
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Ooops our posts clashed Monica.
So it looks like Alexander Riach and Jessie are not with Robina at this stage.
Wonder if they are across the water. :)
Added- Just looked at the link Monica provided and it looks like the couple were not across the water but just round the corner...well still in Elgin that is. ;)
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I did find the Riachs in 1881 earlier and this is them in 1891:
Alexander Riach 43 farm servant
Jessie Riach 40
Daniel Riach 12
Jane Riach 10
John Riach 8
Robert Riach 6
Address: Stron Cottage, St Andrews Lhanbryd, Moray
Monica
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Thats them on the 1881 census she was back in Elgin in 1901 that was the last we can trace census on the 1891 census she was in England with the family that she worked for if my memory is correct haven,t got my paper work beside me
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This entry for 1891?
Robina Jack 20, servant b. Scotland in Kensington London - working at the household of the Petertim family, also from Scotland (RG12/32/19/32).
Monica
Added: And Robina in 1901 for background here to this post:
Alexander Riach 53
Jessie Riach 49
Robena J Riach 30 Domestic Servant (general) b. America (have you checked the original image for this entry?)
Jane Riach 21
John A Riach 19
Robert L Riach 16
Jessie M Riach 8
Address: 43 North Street, Elgin
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Well done Monica.
So if Robina did go to America it was probably between 1891 and 1901.
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Seen the original census.tract the rest of the family except Robina so if she did go to America then it would have to be after the 1901 census was taken
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The family that she worked for are known as the Grant-Peterkin family and the live about Kinloss Moray they are still there.
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Robina could have travelled between Censuses to America with the Grant-Peterkin family and returned.
Seems strange to give place of birth as America if not only she'd not been born there but she'd never even been there.
As Monica asked have you looked at the actual Census (handwritten) not a transcription ? Poor handwriting can often be mistranscribed and give wrong info.
Seen the original census.tract the rest of the family except Robina so if she did go to America then it would have to be after the 1901 census was taken
I'm sorry I don't understand which original Census have you seen :-[ 1901 Census has Robina with her family. She is not with them in 1881 (with Grandmother) and 1891 (with employers). Are you referring to 1911 Census?
Looby :)
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I have a copy of the 1901 census Elgin Moray Scotland from SP this is where i found out that she had changed her name to Riach and that she said that she was born in America can,t understand why she said that. On the 1911 census she is not with her family they have moved to Forres moray. Yes it is a puzzle that has baffled me for years.