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Title: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Saturday 22 February 14 08:53 GMT (UK)
Hi there

I'm researching the Craig branch of my wife's family and we have the attached photograph from around the early/mid 1950's of a group standing at the door of Tayview Cottage in Kinnaird.  It's evident the cottage has a thatched roof, so it may well no longer be there  :(

We have identified three of the people as relations, but it is the elderly lady with the hat on, believed to be in her 90's at the time, who lived to see her 100th birthday that we can't identify.  She was, as was customary in these days, referred to as an aunt, but may not have been related.  We believe she was married and her surname may have been Stewart.

I appreciate that Genealogy is a haystack full of needles - but it is the threads that I need.

Can any Rootschatter(s) help with this one?

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: auchmithie on Sunday 23 February 14 23:42 GMT (UK)
If you are not from around thisKinnaird , I suggest you follow this link    http://www.abernyte.org/heritage-group- they may have duplicates of images of people from the area
Regards
Auchmithie
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Tuesday 25 February 14 15:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that link "auchmithie"

I've just posted my question and the picture on their Forum pages in the hope someone has the answer I'm looking for ... but the last entry was about 4 years ago.

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 25 February 14 16:49 GMT (UK)
CF, useless stat of the day is that there were 865 deaths of females in Scotland aged over 100 yrs old between 1945-70  ;D

The positive thing may be that there was only one death for a woman over 100 in Perthshire, with a surname of Stewart (just seven under Stewart/Stuart for the whole country for the same period). You could check just the index on SP to see whether any names trigger any memory on her other details such as first name etc. Craig doesn't come up as a match for the other surname. No deaths in Kinnaird for this period or age group.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Tuesday 25 February 14 19:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica

Nice to hear from you again with your statistic!  Just 865 ... so not too many to look at then ;)  At least it's a steer in the right direction.  I'll try and narrow things down to that one you mention in Perthshire.  Fingers crossed she died around the early to mid 1960's.

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 25 February 14 19:26 GMT (UK)
No other clues there that might give some confidence as to what may show on the indexes?

Monica

PS: I loved the fact that if I put 100-150 years at death, SP told me that was a dud search...I bet you in a 100+ years from today that won't be so  ::)
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: mclachlan on Thursday 27 February 14 04:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Chiad Fhear,
Just wondering which Kinnaird this photo might be taken at as there are a few places with the same name.  Kinnaird in Perthshire (near Inchture/Abernyte), Kinnaird near Pitlochry, or Kinnaird near Cupar Angus!  I imagine all would have views of the River Tay.  Might help to narrow down the name. 
Kind regards,
Andrea
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: bleckie on Thursday 27 February 14 07:46 GMT (UK)
Hi All

Griff Rhys Jones did a prog on the telly about rivers and he spent quite a bit on the Tay at Kinnaird

I thought there was something chasing the hamster in it's wheel about Tay View Cottages.

I could be wrong but I think Stewart could be the name of the estate owners (getting towards that age play's tricks with the memories)

Chiad have sent you PM with a site addy

Yours Aye
BruceL
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Thursday 27 February 14 08:55 GMT (UK)
Just wondering which Kinnaird this photo might be taken at ...

Hi Andrea

It was "Tayview Cottage" at Kinnaird, Perthshire. My wife's aunt confirmed it just yesterday.

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Thursday 27 February 14 08:57 GMT (UK)
... have sent you PM with a site addy.
BruceL

Hi Bruce

I've inadvertently deleted your message with the link  :'(  Can you send it again please?

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Thursday 27 February 14 09:40 GMT (UK)
Hi again all

To avoid any confusion here, it's the Kinnaird near Inchture and Abernyte just off the A90 Perth - Dundee road that I'm looking at .

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: bleckie on Thursday 27 February 14 10:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Chiad Fhear

The link I sent was to the estate at Pitlochry showing Tayview cottages

Sorry Mate

Yours Aye
BruceL
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Thursday 27 February 14 13:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks Bruce ... it was after looking at the site that I realized I'd best clarify just which Kinnaird it was I needed the information for.

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 22 March 14 18:43 GMT (UK)
Hi CF (A),

Just to say that Craig may be down as Craik ? :-)


Anne

P.S. Haven't replied to your email but you landed lucky with the down under rellie, will work well for you both  :-)
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Saturday 22 March 14 19:12 GMT (UK)
Hi
On Tuesday this week I went to the A. K. Bell Library in Perth and looked through the Electoral Registers for 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1959 and 1961 which all showed “Robina Stewart, Tayview.”  There are no other entries for “Tayview.”

I checked the Library Card Index for “Robina Stewart” and found her Death Notice:

"The Courier and Advertiser" Dundee : Monday, March 15
"STEWART.-At Keirs Cottage, Errol, on March 13, 1971, Robina Butter, beloved wife of the late Stewart McDonald Stewart, formerly of Kinnaird.  Funeral service in house on Tuesday, March 16, at 2 p.m., thereafter to Kinnaird Churchyard, to which all friends are invited.  No flowers please.”

Subsequent searches in ScotlandsPeople show matches as follows:
Statutory Births 1855-2012
BUTTER; Robina; Female; 1881; Perthshire; Kinnoull
Statutory Marriages 1855-2012
STEWART; Stewart; 1904; Perthshire; Kinfauns
BUTTERS; Robina;  (surname different)
Statutory Deaths 1855-2012
STEWART; Robina; Female; 1971; Perthshire, Perth  :  with no “Other Surnames”

I'll continue the search when I go to Edinburgh in a couple of weeks

Chiad Fhear
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 23 March 14 10:35 GMT (UK)
Hi CF

Likely husband Stewart McDonald Stewart died in 1956? His death shows in Kinnaird I believe on SP.

Monica
Title: Re: Tayview Cottage, Kinnaird
Post by: Chiad Fhear on Sunday 23 March 14 10:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica

You're quite correct.  I didn't add it to my last post, but I have a note of it.

The Card Index also revealed the death of a possible son in 1986, also Stewart McDonald Stewart. It was the same name combination as Jemima's husband and was too much of a coincidence to ignore so I looked it up in the archive copy of the local newspaper. He died 15 Jan 1986 in Perth Royal Infirmary.

I now think I'm going to be able to tie Jemima into a branch of the Butter family who emigrated to the US and were connected to the Craig family through a couple of marriages.

WORK IN PROGRESS  ::)

Regards

Chiad Fhear