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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: Clare Fowler on Wednesday 22 June 05 09:34 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
Can anyone tell me if the MIs for any/all of the cemeteries in Hawick have been published and where I can access/buy them?
Many thanks,
Clare
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Clare...It is really hard to find M.I......just ask me..I know.To the best of my knowledge there are 3 old cemeteries in Hawick.
St Mary's.....(I have)
Wellogate)....I have )
Wilton...........(been trying for over 20 years to get)
I stand to be corrected if there are more.
I am sure each and every parish has there own graveyard as well,so if our kin died in a town away from place of birth..well that is the next place to look.
What names are you looking for?
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Hi there,
I am looking for lots of names :-[, which is why I was hoping to be able to buy them from somewhere. I have the booklet for Liddesdale, where most of my Borders ancestors were from, but they ultimately moved to Hawick.
I would be most interested in any entries for Hume (especially with first name Walter - I am looking for 3 generations of those) and Hay - especially James Hay (born ca 1817 in Hawick) and his wife Margaret Best. Both of these families married into my Elliot line, but are proving problematic!
Many thanks,
Clare
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OK...as soon as I get back I will look for HAY and BEST in both the M I's.. that I have for HAWICK.
Several hours anyway.
I have just gotten my hands on M.I.for WILTON ROX...yahoo..this has been over 20 years waiting for this one.
It is in the mail from the USA and I do not expect it for a few weeks yet..
Wilton was across the river from Hawick
If you put together a list of couples..EX: James Hay and Margaret Best. on your other surnames..I will see what I can do to help.
MY names that I an doing right now are WALDIE, HUGGAN ,TINLINE, KERSEL and all the rest you see on my profile.
I 'll get back to you soon
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Clare...I found no "BEST" in either the Wellogate or St Mary's cemetery..sorry.
BUT....I did find a few HAY's at St.Mary's Churchyard in Hawick.
ROBERT HAY
born c 1781
died Jan 15 1832
his wife
ANN LITTLE
born c1797
died Jan 26 1848
their son THOMAS HAY
born c 128
died Oct 10 1851
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JAMES HAY
born c 1780
died Dec 9 1844
his wife JANET HUME
born c 1783
died April 30 1855
*NOTE...have attempted to change color for the year 1855...if you believe that this is yours...you should get the death cert,as it was the 1st year of civil registration and is loaded with info.
I hope that some of this helps.!!
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Hi there,
Thanks for this. they look a little early to be who I am looking for - but they could well be the generation before, so I will do a bit more digging.
Many thanks again for looking for me :)
Cheers,
Clare
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hi
wonder if you would mind having a look for DOUGLAS for me they were born in Hawick
the earliest I have is Robert Douglas b 1801 and his wife Mary Scott b 1811 Robert and Mary moved over to Dumfries so I don't suppose they are likely to be there spent all day yesterday with this lot getting no where which seems to be the norm for me at the moment with all my names
thanks
audrey
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Audrey ...no death that I could find for your Robert Douglas and Mary Scott....sorry.
......BUT if the moved to another parish or county..you might check there for deaths.
Go the census route first 1841,through to ,1891...then start looking for a death and burial.
Civil registration began in 1855...wonderful year,so much info on a cert.
If you can find where he stayed put for a while,you could read a LDS film for that area and its time frame.
IGI...well it is a great guide line..I only use extracted info...all submitted info I double check.
GRO...there is lots of births deaths and marr NOT in the GRO.
I know,as I have read a LOT of films to find what I want.
Always use as many avenues as possible to chase the kin from place to place.
Keep looking and good luck.
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"I would be most interested in any entries for Hume (especially with first name Walter - I am looking for 3 generations of those)"
CLARE......
I went through the M.I.for 2 cemeteriesand only ref. to HUME was as follows:
THOMAS ELLIOT born c1804 died Dec 21 1889
his wife
MARGARET HUME born c1806 died Jan 9 1864
Buried in Wellogate Cemetery,Hawick,Rox.
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Audrey ...no death that I could find for your Robert Douglas and Mary Scott....sorry.
......BUT if the moved to another parish or county..you might check there for deaths.
Go the census route first 1841,through to ,1891...then start looking for a death and burial.
Civil registration began in 1855...wonderful year,so much info on a cert.
If you can find where he stayed put for a while,you could read a LDS film for that area and its time frame.
IGI...well it is a great guide line..I only use extracted info...all submitted info I double check.
GRO...there is lots of births deaths and marr NOT in the GRO.
I know,as I have read a LOT of films to find what I want.
Always use as many avenues as possible to chase the kin from place to place.
Keep looking and good luck.
thank you for looking
audrey
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Ello
Have you tried the Borders Family History Society
Andrew
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don't know if this helps found this info in the
cavers1851 census
WALTER HUME (CUSEN ?) UNMARRIED 60 FARM STUART*
BORN ROXBURGHSHIRE ,WILTON
*60acres emply.4 lab
hope this helps
c. t .
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Hawick Museum have MI's for the Hawick cemeteries .
Unfortunately not for sale but you can ring the museum and arrange a visit to look at them.
tel 01450 378506
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Hi all,
I have discovered that I can get access to them at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. Now I just have to get off my backside and go through and see them, since I am only about 20 miles away!
Cheers,
Clare
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MY names that I an doing right now are WALDIE, HUGGAN ,TINLINE, KERSEL and all the rest you see on my profile.
I 'll get back to you soon
Hi ajjbc
Noted with interest you are researching WALDIE.
My WALDIEs are descended from
Thomas WALDIE, b 20 Jan 1750 ROX marr 2 April 1785 Roxburgh, ROX Helen (Ellen/Nelly) ROBSON (dau of Robert ROBSON b
abt 1740 Morebattle)
Children:
1. Janet chr 1785 Roxburgh, ROX
2. James chr 11 May 1788 Roxburgh, ROX
3. Robert chr 12 June 1791 Roxburgh, ROX
4. John chr 10 Nov 1793 Roxburgh, ROX,
5. Thomas b 29 Sept 1798 Roxburgh, ROX
6. James b 13 May 1800 The Fens, ROX marr
Christian MOSCRIP (Children Jessie II (twin)
7. Margaret chr 28 Nov 1801 Roxburgh, ROX
8. Nelly b 12 July 1804 Roxburgh, ROX
9. *John Martin b 23 Jan 1807 Roxburgh, ROX (farm steward, b 23 Jan 1807 Rox, ROX; marr Elisabeth (Betty) WIGHT
10. Mary b 20 Dec 1810 Roxburgh, ROX
Any connection??
I also have a friend in Canada researching HUGGAN. Where are your HUGGANs from?? I will send her your details if you like.
Cheers
Judy in Australia
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Hi Clare
This is my first time using rootschat so please forgive me for simply replying to this post (I couldn't work out any other way). I am researching David Hay (abt 1879) married to Janet Frame and believe the James Hay that you were seaking info on may be his grandfarther. Also, when searching for information on David Hay I noticed an old post from you offering spare birth certificates, do you still have this?
Any information you could provide on David Hay and his ancestors would be most appreciated.
cheers
Steve
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Hi there,
I will dig some 'Hay' information out over the weekend for you.
Cheers,
Clare
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Excellent, thanks Clare.
I look forward to seeing whatever info you can provide.
cheers Steve
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I'm new using this too, and hope someone can help me. I'm searching for cemetery for Catherine Coogan died 26 August 1866 in Hawick. We think her husband's name was Peter. She was from Ireland, but we've no idea where and are hoping to find some more information. Her daughter Catherine Coogan married a John Inglis and died in Hawick also in 1864. Not sure what happened to Catherine Coogan's son Peter, or daughter Esther either. Any ideas on where I can search for cemetery records on them?
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Hello Jahjahau,
I came across your posting tonight re Waldies. I am descended from Robert Waldie, b. 1767, who is the brother of your Thomas Waldie. I would be interested to hear from you in a PM perhaps so that we could compare notes ;)
Susan 42
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Hi Steve,
You should have a personal message now with the Hay info.
Cheers,
Clare
Hi Clare
This is my first time using rootschat so please forgive me for simply replying to this post (I couldn't work out any other way). I am researching David Hay (abt 1879) married to Janet Frame and believe the James Hay that you were seaking info on may be his grandfarther. Also, when searching for information on David Hay I noticed an old post from you offering spare birth certificates, do you still have this?
Any information you could provide on David Hay and his ancestors would be most appreciated.
cheers
Steve
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I seem to have several conections with other researchers. The names that I am interested in are : WALDIE, MOSCRIP, CURRIE, HANDYSIDE, ROBSON, WHITE, HUGGAN, LAING. My line is descended from Thomas WALDIE chr. 1760 . Roxburgh and Helen (Nelly) Robson b. 1767. Morebatlle. My G. Grandfather was Thomas WALDIE b. 1824 lAND Steward at Mervinslaw & Harriet Currie B.1832 Maxton. My Grandfather was James WALDIE b. St. Boswells, 1854. and Mary Ellen SMITH B. 14th Oct. 1869 Ridsdale, N'land.
Willing to exchange information on my findings to date.
Umberto
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Hi Clara, I am trying to figure out how to use this web-site. I am looking for any info on George William Crozier he was born in Scotland but lived in Ireland before coming to the States in 1837. He was married to Jane McKenna who died some time before 1837 I think in Moorfield Cross Roads, Galway, Ireland. He brought all the children except on daughter Effie who married a Samuel Black in 1840 and had a son James. I think Effie died in Collen, Lough County, Ireland. George Wm's father owned carding mills somewhere in that area. I am just desperate for any information on my family. I hear that the Croziers were quite well known. So anything would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time.
Marie
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I have no information on James Hay, but I have just been doing something on Robert Hay [1781 - 1832] innkeeper of the Crown Inn on the High St, Hawick, and wife Ann d 1848.
My interest is in their son Thomas Hay d 1851 at age 23 - he was a Cornet [principal in the annual Common Riding]
I would be grateful for any MI [or information] on this Hay family
Thanks
Neil Wallace
[I am researching the Cornets since 1703 - slowly!!!! - and writing them up on a blog http://hawickcornets.wordpress.com ]
Hi there,
I am looking for lots of names :-[, which is why I was hoping to be able to buy them from somewhere. I have the booklet for Liddesdale, where most of my Borders ancestors were from, but they ultimately moved to Hawick.
I would be most interested in any entries for Hume (especially with first name Walter - I am looking for 3 generations of those) and Hay - especially James Hay (born ca 1817 in Hawick) and his wife Margaret Best. Both of these families married into my Elliot line, but are proving problematic!
Many thanks,
Clare
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I seem to have several conections with other researchers. The names that I am interested in are : WALDIE, MOSCRIP, CURRIE, HANDYSIDE, ROBSON, WHITE, HUGGAN, LAING. My line is descended from Thomas WALDIE chr. 1760 . Roxburgh and Helen (Nelly) Robson b. 1767. Morebatlle. My G. Grandfather was Thomas WALDIE b. 1824 lAND Steward at Mervinslaw & Harriet Currie B.1832 Maxton. My Grandfather was James WALDIE b. St. Boswells, 1854. and Mary Ellen SMITH B. 14th Oct. 1869 Ridsdale, N'land.
Willing to exchange information on my findings to date.
Umberto
Hi
I' haven't worked on this line for a while. My earlier research indicated I am descended from a younger brother of your James - John Merton WALDIE. John's daughter, Elisabeth married William GARDNER. They were my gggrandparents. Their son and his family emigrated to Australia in 1913.
These are the children I have for Thomas & Nelly
Children:
1. Janet chr 1785 Roxburgh, ROX
2. James chr 11 May 1788 Roxburgh, ROX
3. Robert chr 12 June 1791 Roxburgh, ROX
4. John chr 10 Nov 1793 Roxburgh, ROX,
5. Thomas b 29 Sept 1798 Roxburgh, ROX
6. James b 13 May 1800 The Fens, ROX marr
Christian MOSCRIP (Children Jessie II (twin)
b 11 Feb 1821 Morebattle, ROX; chr 27 Dec 1822 St Boswells; d abt June 1853 Halifax, Nova Scotia, CAN)(Jessie II marr Robert CONQUERGOOD who was b 27 April 1818 in Ormston, ROX:Children of Jessie II & Robert: Robert b 6 Nov 1839 Rox; Thomas b 27 June 1841 Hawick; d 7 Jan 1933 Lilyfield, Manitoba, CAN; Wm Lee b 25 April 1844/45 Rox; John b 27 Apr 1845 Rox; Richard b 22 Jun 1847 Rox; Ellen (Helen) b 15 July 1849 Cartwright, Fenelon, Ontario; Janet b 22 July 1851 Rox; James b 30 Apr 1853, Rox
7. Margaret chr 28 Nov 1801 Roxburgh, ROX
8. Nelly b 12 July 1804 Roxburgh, ROX
9. *John Martin b 23 Jan 1807 Roxburgh, ROX (farm steward, b 23 Jan 1807 Rox, ROX; d 2 Oct 1897 aged 96 at Howden, Jedburgh – natural causes (old age, exhaustion) & cerebral haemorrhage) marr Elisabeth (Betty) WIGHT (b 9 June 1811 Maxton to Wm WIGHT, farmer & Eliz RICHARDSON; d 8 March 1861 at Crailing of apoplexy at age of 50) Children: Helen Robson b 1847 Crailing, d 1931 Melrose, marr James SCOTT (Children: 1. William Waldie b 1880 Bedrule, after 1891 Rox, ROX 2. John Martin Waldie b 1888 Rox, ROX
11. Mary b 20 Dec 1810 Roxburgh, ROX
This may change when I relook at it and check out the resources available since I last worked on it.
Judy
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I seem to have several conections with other researchers. The names that I am interested in are : WALDIE, MOSCRIP, CURRIE, HANDYSIDE, ROBSON, WHITE, HUGGAN, LAING. My line is descended from Thomas WALDIE chr. 1760 . Roxburgh and Helen (Nelly) Robson b. 1767. Morebatlle. My G. Grandfather was Thomas WALDIE b. 1824 lAND Steward at Mervinslaw & Harriet Currie B.1832 Maxton. My Grandfather was James WALDIE b. St. Boswells, 1854. and Mary Ellen SMITH B. 14th Oct. 1869 Ridsdale, N'land.
Willing to exchange information on my findings to date.
Umberto
Hello Umberto and Judy,
I don't know if I will be of any interest to either of you, but I am also descended from Thomas Waldie (1760), through Robert (abt 1789 Roxborough) who travelled to London, Thomas (1829), Thomas (1851) and Albert Granville (18965), my grandfather. I have not done any original research, but have picked up information from here and there, including friendly help from members of this forum. I shall be happy to share all I have if this is of value.
In passing, I am not very confident with the data I have regarding Thomas (1760)'s ancestors, who I have as James (1722) married to Jean Wright (1725), James 1685, but no wife!, James 1645 married to Mary Laing and James 1616. So I would welcome any evidence to either prove or disprove these rather putative connections.
Thank you,
Kevin Waldie
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I would be interested in locating an MI for a Thomas Brown and/or his wife Beatrix Kyle in one of the Hawick cemeteries. He was a shoemarker by trade and also a Hawick Burgess. I do not know when they died but it must have been after 1782. Can anyone help me?
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thank you ajjbc James Hay and Janet Hume are my GGG Grand Parents that I have been searching for many years. Found this site yesterday and joined Roots today. Their son Thomas 1813-1883 is my line that I have on Ancestry if anybody is interested
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UNFORTUNATELY NOT
but there has been serveral attempts over the years and are only available to read at various local history groups - BFHS, Hertiage HUB, and alike
Time and volunteers is the main factor which is lacking, because the two main cemeteries are very big in the borders most of the MI's have been coompiled by volunteer for local history societies.
but who knows one day
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Judy, I see that you are descended from a daughter of William Wight and Elisabeth Richardson of Maxton. I am the great-great-grandson of William and Elisabeth's other daughter Isabella Wight who married Robert Stephenson, and I am in touch with a descendant of Isabella's brother Walter Wight.
Harry
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Ajjbc,
I have just found this site and am interested in a couple of things. My grandmother was from Hawick. I've made a couple of trips there while we were living in Luxembourg. I'm a Canadian living in Illinois.
Can you find out if Annie Irvine Whillans (dod 20 Mar 1912 is buried in one of the 2 Hawick cemeteries. and one other her name is Mrs. Margaret McIntyre (nee Miles). She died 30 Apr 2012 in Kelso at Queens House.
My grandmother was Margaret Douglas Robson Waldie. I see you are interested in the Waldie family. Maybe we can help each other out. My parents best friend (adopted - long story) was also a Waldie from Hawick. I have yet to find a connection other than his parents were married at my g-great uncle's place in Hamilton. His last name was Robson (also from Hawick). My family arrived in Sherbrooke, Quebec to work at the mills. I'd love to hear from you and see what info you have. My g-g-great grandfather was James Waldie married to Mary Gray 21 Jul 1807 in Edinburgh. They had 2 sons John Sibbald, my g-great grandfather (1819-1882) and James Thomas Waldie (21 Feb 1821). Do you have any of these people on your tree?
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nzzj7k…
Went through what I have in the 3 cemeteries in Hawick and did not find Annie Irvine Whillians burial in 1912.That does not mean she is not there.My 3 books are older.MAybe someone who has up to date burials might find her or maybe she has no stone.
Margaret McIntyre who died in 2012 is way to new for my books…you could try a new post.
I did try to Private email on Waldie …..but it says your box is full.
My Waldie are down in Roxburgh back to mid 1700…have a paper trail…William Waldie & Marion Prentice.
If you have a direct male Waldie some where,get his Y_DNA done…..I have one of mine done (he's going on 90,so I thought,get it while I can).I also noticed on Ancestry that there are 4 different researchers who have trees on your line.
Always free to post or ask….RootsChat works like a charm…super folks here.
Cheers
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My Waldie's are from Hawick too. I had a lady in Hawick that could look up cemetery plots for me, but she is no longer there and I see now they charge for the search. I know Hawick is popular with the family tree search and THEY (meaning Hawick) need the money, so charging for the searches makes sense.
One of my parents good friend's last name was Waldie and his father was from Hawick. He was put up for adoption (his last name changed to Brisbin) but I was asked to do some family research on the Waldie side. Well to make a long story short, I believe he is on your family tree. Now he has died but he has a son that really is a Waldie (because his dad's name was Waldie before he retired) is still alive. May I ask why you want to get a male DNA of the Waldie's? Anyway my friend's tree has William Waldie married to Marion Prentice.
I was born in Toronto, but now live in Peoria, Illinois. We move around a lot for my husband's job.
Regards,
Jill Honda
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nzzj7k
I will try again to send you a private email in regards to Waldie..
In the mean time …if you can give me a rough idea to your friends linage it would be great as I have plenty of info that I can sift through on my line…..you could send me your personal email to my personal email.
Waldie Y-DNA would be great from all Waldie researchers as I could well lead to merging all these family trees out there…I have accumulated quite a few Waldie pedigrees over the years,yet cannot merge them.
Chat soon Ann
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Jahjahau
just had another look through this posting and noticed we have a link
Thomas Waldie and Helen (Nellie) Robson are my GR GR GR Grandparents via their daughter Helen (Nellie) whom married Andrew Aitken blacksmith at Rutherford Burnside, Maxton - their youngest son David is my GR Grandfather
(NB:not to be confused with Nellie's niece Nellie who married Andrew's cousin Andrew Aitken in the late 1840's)
Which of the Thomas & Helen's children is your line - it wasn't clear.
As for Huggan's it's a common name in Roxburghshire especially around Denholm and Hawick
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I have a 2nd Great aunt who died in Hawick:
Margaret Casdon Hodge died 22 sept 1860 Hawick From Scarlatina aged 3 1/2 buried in the new burial ground Hawick.
I have this girl - her sister (my descendant) sewed her name on my beautiful sampler done in 1868. I don't know where the Casdon bit comes from:
Name:Margaret Casdon Hodge
Gender:Female
Birth Date:7 Apr 1857
Birth Place:Inveresk With Musselburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Father:James Hodge
Mother:Elizabeth Brown
& the initial on the sampler is not clear SO I'm hoping to find her grave.
would her MI be in any of your books or is it too late AND which cemetery is the NEW HAWICK?
Diddy
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The only reference to a Hodge or Casdon is as follows.
"Wellowgate Cemetery"
Middel Area No.VI.
This area at the back of No1 extends to main road from Cemetery Gate.
Rows start from end opposite No.1
Row 1…
3.) Small Slab…In Memory of Margaret Hodge,daughter of William Hodge,Brewery Cottage.
I am wondering if someone who lives in Hawick can possibly check further on this to at least get a date….
I did check all 3 M.I. books and that was the only one I found.Hopefully the fathers name will be a clue of some sort.
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Don't necessarily mi's depends if a stone exists - not every grave/lair has a stone - try and check the lair books (generally kept by local authority)
Unusual middle names check female relatives maiden names - can be good source as some names are brought through a family
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I quite agree. St Mary's M.I. were done many years ago and the copies I have were 1935-1936 and I believe the last burial here was a gal by the name of Annie Scott White,year unknown.
As for Wellogate…unsure of when it opened and closed.
Wilton Cemetery…not known the opening & closing time frame.
Also…when some of these stones were recorded,they could well have been in sad shape as well take into account fallen,broken and moved stones.
These cemetery recordings that I have were done by the late James H.Haining.
This would be great if someone in Hawick could find out the opening and closing of these 3 cemeteries…and I am curious if there is another cemetery been used.
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That is my Margaret, daughter of James Hodge, brewer. I have them 1861 in Brewery cottage.
I have looked all,over for a Casdon name connection but nothing yet. Not much on Margarets mums side Elizabeth Brown b. Alloa.
If anyone could check the grave for further info that would be great as I am in Midlands miles away.
Ta Diddy
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wait a minute - you say William Hodge father - mine was James. will def need to see date.
Diddy
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I found a link to the Scottish Association of Border councils managing the cemetery & have sent them a request for info .
Diddy
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Wellogate,Wilton,st Cuthbert's are still in general issue and st Mary's is only in use re family lair but quite rare these days
Old Wilton closed years ago and grassed over but some family stone were moved near the wall, because some relatives were known when the work was done
Wellogate date from late 1840's around the cholera out break as does most of Wilton
There's a chorlea pit near the lodge at wellogate it is noticeable at its a open space with stones around it and none in it
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Terianne…Thanks for the update…..any and all info is so important in all of our research.
I will add a some tidbits here as well and this is from James H. Haining reports.
"Wellogate Cemetery"
This burial ground was opened in 1849 as an extension to St'Mary's Churchyard by the Heritors of Hawick Parish and remained in their control to a much later date.
The first interment in the Heritors Ground was that of Robert Turnbull,age 17,son of Margaret Scott,Kirkwynd,on the 13 July 1849 who died of consumption,a very frequent cause of death then.
It was very fortunate indeed that this ground was available at this time,as it was immediately required for the victims of the last Clorea Epidemic.
On July 31,of the same month the first victor was buried….Margaret Miller,wife of John Crummie,Nave,Teviot Square.Her husband died two days previously (29),cause of death,gluttony.
One hundred and forty one died in Hawick and 56 in Wilton as a result of the dread visitation.
The last victor died 18th November of the same year.
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diddymiller
had a look at the 1861 census and Margaret's parents came from Stirlingshire and came to Hawick via Cupar in Fife in the 1850's, because they aren't in the Hawick 1851 census, as they lived in the Slitrig side of the Town, Margaret is probably buried in Wellogate (but possibly st Mary's), but she may not have a stone - she was a very small child and with her father James being a Brewer with a large family, but she might have been given a mention on a later stone of the family if they stay in Hawick - Lair book is still your best bet - Wellogate is the largest cemetery in Hawick
As for Casdon try checking in Stirlingshire
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Hi thanks I have all the family info going forward. James is in the Fife brewing book! And then he went to Castle Eden Brewery Durham
He & wife are buried in bishop wear mouth cemetery.
Have looked for the Casdon link all over SP but as can't find James bap 1820 Stirling or wife Elizabeth brown 1821 Alloa I am struggling to go further back.
Possible for James 1841 in linlithgow not born in County. 2 Elizabeth browns 1841 both as servant b.1821 so not with parents.
Diddy
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Diddymiller
You may have to check the church records as they maybe nonconformist's and don't always appear in the OPR pre1855 records, also check the IGI
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Thanks I have already checked IGI.
Another mystery - Scottish border council have sent me (copy of doc) the burial of:
Margaret Hodge, Wellogate. buried 24 sept 1860 from Scarlet fever d/o William Hodge, brewer, brewery cottages, Hawick.
My Margaret died 22 sept 1860, from scarlet fever. d/o James Hodge, brewer, brewery cottages, Hawick (SP)
Confusing!!
Diddy
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yes very confusing
All the B & D records have her dad as James even on the IGI
James & Elizabeth were married in Alloa in 1846
There wasn't many Hodges in Scottish Borders in 1860
May be its a typo or James uses his Middle Name instead of his first, which could be William - who knows - more digging needs
but there is a William Hodge in the Stirlingshire born 1821 that could fit the James children's naming pattern
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This is for reference for those dealing with the "Wilton Cemetery."
"Wilton Old Cemetery 1762"
Wilton Old Church was built in 1762 and the cemetery would be started at that time.The old church was closed in 1861 and later the congregation moved to the new Wilton Church.For many years the cemetery had a derelict appearance and many stones were removed or replaced in 1958 but in 1961 the railings and wall of the old 18th century cemetery were removed along with many of the remaining headstones and public pathways laid with grassy areas for children to play on.One or two special headstones were left in position,notably that of James Thomson who died in 1838,author of "Teribus" and those of the Pringle family of Wilton Lodge….now the Museum"
This write up is from the "Hawick Archaeological Society Transactions" 1985... page 29
I am posting this fro the researchers that do not a copy of this issue.
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Ajjbc
James Thomson who died in 1888 wrote the border queen not teribus that was written by Hawick poet James Hogg who died in 1838 (not to be confused with ettrick shepherd)
A good book to check out is Hawick songs and sing writers by Robert Murray 3rd edition 1897
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It seems that even the Hawick Archaeological Society makes long gone errors…
They might want to correct that particular issue.
…but I thank you for the info.
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Thanks I have already checked IGI.
Another mystery - Scottish border council have sent me (copy of doc) the burial of:
Margaret Hodge, Wellogate. buried 24 sept 1860 from Scarlet fever d/o William Hodge, brewer, brewery cottages, Hawick.
My Margaret died 22 sept 1860, from scarlet fever. d/o James Hodge, brewer, brewery cottages, Hawick (SP)
Confusing!!
Diddy
Hi Diddy,
Is it possible that 2 different people gave the info.........one re death, other for burial & the burial info. with father's name was an error by the informant or maybe the informant re the burial was named William & a misinterpretation ?
Annie
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Yes I was thinking that is probably the explanation. There are no other Margaret Hodge deaths 1860 SP.
Diddy
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Hi there
I was also looking for people possibly buried at Hawick. An Agnes Thomson nee Mackinnon. She was originally from Ettrick but her death certificate says she died in Hawick in 1976. She was married to a George Allan Thomson who died in 1992. Agnes was born at the Thirlestane estate in Ettrick in 1923. George was born in Hawick in 1911.
LAURIE
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Scottish border council got straight back to me via email. Very helpful lady. Worth an email.
Google Scottish Borders Council.
Diddy
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Harry,
My apologies for not replying. Yes, I am descended from the WIGHTs you mentioned. Elisabeth WIGHT married John Merton/Martin WALDIE and their daughter, Elizabeth married Wm GARDNER. Wm & Eliz's son, John, my ggrandfather, emigrated with his family, to Australia, in 1913.
Thanks for the info about her siblings. I haven't done a lot on the WIGHTs, as someone gave me their work on the line quite some years ago and it's quite a while since I worked on the WALDIE line.
Judy