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Title: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Wednesday 26 February 14 21:40 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find a marriage of John Jenks & Salome Pepper about 1798.
Also the marriage of William Pepper & Anne, I feel they most likely married near her family in Keele. I had no success with a post on the Staffs board. Thought I would give it another go.

John Jenks       bp. 18 Nov 1764 Lee Brockhurst, Salop son of James Jenks & Catherine Penlington
Salome Pepper bo. 1763 Eccleshall, Staffs. 1851C  bp. 23 Oct 1763 Keele daughter of William Pepper & Anne _____?

Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 27 February 14 07:25 GMT (UK)
Could this be William Pepper and Anne marriage ?
the only William Pepper - Anne I could find on igi / familysearch
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV38-68D

how far is Uppingham to Eccleshall ??.....I will have a look on AA routeplan ..
95 miles ...seems a bit far ...do you know what occupation William was ??
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 27 February 14 20:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply Garstonite,
I feel that marriage is to far. The Pepper family seem to be in Keele for quite some time.
I have found another marriage but would have to look at the original.
William Pepper to Ann Davis married 18th April 1755 Halesowen, Worcestershire. Or Old Shropshire.
Do not no his occupation, the marriage will help if it is the right one.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJ9T-L9M
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 28 February 14 08:37 GMT (UK)
PEPPER;
Looks to me that the Marriage would be earlier ;

Christenings, Keele, Staffs to WILLIAM/ANNE
JOHN, 9 Feb 1745
WILLIAM, 27 March 1748
THOMAS, 02 Oct 1750
JAMES, 12 April 1754
ANNE, 20 Aug 1758
SALOME, 23 Oct 1763***
DANIEL, 6 July 1766
SAMUEL, 21 May 1769
(Familysearch.Org)

So looking pre 1745 for a Marriage.

This may be a Child of 1755 Marriage noted;
WM Pepper, 19 October 1755, Hales-Owen, Stafford, England to WM/ANN (F/S.Org)

Trish :)
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 28 February 14 08:52 GMT (UK)
JENKS;

Now John/Salome Married earlier than 1798;

BURIAL;
MATHEW Jenks, Buried 26 July 1818, St Peter, Lee Brockhurst, age 26 (birth c 1792)
Son of JOHN/SALOME, Occp Labourer
(Source FreeREG)

BAPTISMS, St Peter, Lee Brockhurst to JOHN/SALOME Jenks;
JAMES, 24 June 1798
MARIA, 25 May 1800
(Both on F/S.Org)
JOSEPH, 1 March 1803, Buried 9 March 1811 age 8
WILLIAM, 26 March 1805, Buried 6 Oct 1806 (infant)
THOMAS, 5 Oct 1805
WILLIAM, 3 July 1807
EDWARD, 10 Nov 1812
JOSEPH, 18 July 1815, Fathers occp Labourer, Buried 24 Marc 1816 (infant)
SARAH, 10 March 1820
(Source FreeREG for later ones)

Back soon, got to go out.
If Matthew was born c 1792, need to find where he was Baptised and then look for a Marriage
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 28 February 14 11:59 GMT (UK)
Only one I can find on F/S;
MATHEW Jenks christened 6 April 1794, Eccleshall, Staffordshire to JOHN/ELINOR
Dont think this is him though.
JOHN Jenks same place, 8 May 1796 to JOHN/LOMEY

May I ask Alberbury how you know Salome was nee Pepper if you dont have the Marriage?

The reason I ask this is that a John JENKS Married Loma PARKER, 20 May 1793, Whitmore, Stafford

A Salome PARKER was Baptised 8 October 1773, Eccleshall, Staffs, Father THOMAS

I know she is 10 years younger than the DOB given for Salome JINKS on the 1851 Census but seems a bit of a coincidence to me.
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Friday 28 February 14 16:44 GMT (UK)
Agreed, William Pepper to Ann Davis marriage is to late.

Salome Pepper, a bit of guess work. Nothing else comes close, and I know Eccleshall is a distance to Keele, but it is realistic. But again I could be wrong.

1841 C Lee Brockhurst
Salome Jenks  70                 born Salop
Sarah Jenks     20                       Y
Thomas Jenks   25   Ag Lab          Y
Sarah Jenks     30                        Y
Willm Jenks      3                         Y
Mary Jenks      6m                       Y

1851 C    23 Lee Brockhurst
Thomas Jinks   Head    mar  40    farm lab   Shropshire Lee Brockhurst
Sarah Jinks      Wife     mar  43     Wife                         Cotton
Mary Jinks        dau             10    Scholar                    Lee Brockhurst
John Jinks        son               4                                     "         "
James Jinks      son               1                                     "         "
Salome Jinks   Lodger  Wid.  88    Pauper     Staffordshire   Eccleshall

James Jenks                bur. 17 Sep 1782  St.Chad's, Shrewsbury  aged 64
Catherine Penlington    bur. 13 Jan 1762 St.Chad's, Shrewsbury
Mar. 28th Jan 1739 Malpas   
Rachel bo. 21 Feb  bp. 21 FEb 1743 St.Chad's, Shrewsbury
James bo. 26 Jun bp. 1 July 1746 St.Chad's
Catherine bp. 21 Feb           St.Chad's
Joseph bp. 11 Dec 1753 St.Chad's
Robert bo. 9 bp. 16 June 1756 St. Chad's
Frances dau. bo. 23 Jun bp. 15 July 1759 St.Chad's bur. 6 Sep 1759 St.Chad's
Edward bo. 3 bp. 10 Oct 1761 St.Chad's bur. 6 Dec 1761 St.Chad's
John bp. 18 Nov 1764 Lee Brockhurst

Where is baptism of James Jenks married to Catherine ?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=583899.0   link - Jenks and Penlington



Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Wednesday 11 February 15 23:42 GMT (UK)
Following the help from Trish1120. I found this baptism from familysearch.org

John bp. 8th May 1796 Eccleshall, Staffs   John + Lomey Jenks

So another change of name, so I have Loma, Lomey and Salome. How can these different names be the same person.

I now must look for the marriage of John Jenks to Loma Parker 2oth May 1793 Whitmore

Correction, just noticed that Trish1120 had posted the baptism.



Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: madeley on Thursday 12 February 15 14:11 GMT (UK)
Could this be William Pepper and Anne marriage ?
the only William Pepper - Anne I could find on igi / familysearch
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV38-68D

how far is Uppingham to Eccleshall ??.....I will have a look on AA routeplan ..
95 miles ...seems a bit far ...do you know what occupation William was ??

There is a Uppington in shropshire just west of Wellington and not that far from Lee brockhurst.
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 12 February 15 17:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the suggestion madeley. That marriage is in Rutland.
I am now looking for a Parker connection, hopefully I can find the marriage in Whitmore, Staffs.
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Saturday 26 September 15 11:11 BST (UK)
Banns were published between John Jenks & Lorna Parker on 5, 12 & 19 May 1793.

Whitmore, Staffordshire.

John Jenks of the parish of Stoke Stafford & Lorna Parker of this parish. Married in the Chapel by Banns.

20th May 1793 by R Dewhurst. (he was the Curate)

Both signed X as did the one witness Edward Banks.



http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731605.new#new

Found on FindMyPast by kilwinning
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Saturday 26 September 15 18:07 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=580240.0

Salome Pepper family of Keele 1763

I am trying to find a marriage of John Jenks & Salome Pepper abt. 1798 and any other additional information for below.
John Jenks       bp. 18 Nov 1764 Lee Brockhurst, Salop to
Salome Pepper bo. 1763 Eccleshall, Staffs. 1851C  bp. 23 Oct 1763 Keele

Johannis Pepper mar. Elizabeth surname ?
Grace        bp. 28 Nov 1686 Keele
Johannis   bp. 4 Nov 1688 Keele
Elizabetha bp. 1 Mar 1691 Keele
Anna         bp. 12 July 1693 Keele
Maria        bp. 5 Mar 1695 Keele
Jonathan  bp. 7 Sep 1700 Keele
      Anna Peak
      Mar. 10 Apr 1721 Keele
      John    bo. abt. 1721 Keele ?
      William bp. 28 Aug 1726 Keele
            Anne surname ?
            Mar. abt. 1747 Keele ?
            John      bp. 9 Feb 1745 Keele
            William  bp. 27 Mar 1748 Keele
            Thomas bp. 2 Oct 1750 Keele
            James   bp. 12 Apr 1754 Keele
            Anne     bp. 20 Aug 1758 Keele
            Salome bp. 23 Oct 1763 Keele

Sourced from Keele transcribed Parish register, Staffordshire collection at Shropshire archives.
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: JCoulter on Monday 18 January 16 08:52 GMT (UK)

Hello I have received a copy of the relevant Salome Jenks' Death certificate, the information it gives is thus:

 1858 Death in the sub-district of Wem in the county of Salop. No. 484.

When and where died: fourteenth March 1858 Lee Brockenhurst.
Name and surname: Salome Jenks.
Sex: Female.
Age: 93 years.
Occupation: Widow of John Jenks labourer.
Cause of death: Old age and infirmity No medical attendant.
Signature, description and residence of informant: X The mark of Sarah Jenks present at the death Lee Brockenhurst.
When registered: fifteenth March 1858.
Signature of registrar: Thomas Vaughan Registrar

 That puts her birth year as 1765 or 1764.

 Regards - John
Title: Re: John Jenks & Salome Pepper
Post by: Alberbury on Monday 18 January 16 20:56 GMT (UK)
Hello John,

The baptism for Salome is still undecided.
I have not found another marriage to John Jenks other than already posted. I just wonder whether a marriage has not been indexed or transcribed yet.

Thank you for posting this evidence from my PM request.

Alberbury.   :)