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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: Noells on Sunday 02 March 14 06:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I live in Oz and am helping a friend who is researching his Pomeroy family in England.
His father came to Oz in 1926 and his address on the Passenger List was Pound Cottage,Dinton,Salisbury
His father was then 16 years of age and came here unaccompanied. He never spoke of his family in England, so it is a mystery to us as to why he would come here.
We would really like to know whether Pound Cottage was then a farm or perhaps school? Also is it still there?
Any help appreciated
Noells
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Hi
Sorry I don't have local knowledge. You may find this article on the village interesting http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=16074
Rosie
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Theres still a Pound Cottage,Hindon Rd Dinton.listed in property info as large detached, last sold in 1996.This road is a current mix of old and new,so could be still there.
Perhaps older children were boarded there in 1920s,school or institution.The telephone directory too may help,and Electoral Rolls if any.Salisbury Library may be able to point you in the right direction.
I am not far away and will go and see if the house is still there,in next few days. Another thing is that WW1,army camps were situated all through this area,mainly commonwealth soldiers.Brionne.
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Pound Cottage is a Grade II Listed Building.
Details here: http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-320740-pound-cottage-dinton-
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Yes,thats the place,Listed so name unchanged.
The guys family are at Orchard Terrace Dinton,1911.expect you have this.
The image[FindMyPast]of sailing Largs Bay,London to Sydney 24 August 1926,gives following address,for Sydney Pomeroy.
Pount Cottages,Dinton,Salisbury,age 16 single,boxmaker.
Interestingly he is travelling with,Jack Dukes,23,chauffeur,address given,Avon View,Stratford Sub Castle,Salisbury,the booking numbers for these two men are,14824,and 14825 respectively,so obviously made at same time. Brionne.
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Thanks everyone.
I will pass all this on to my friend who I am sure will be a pleased as I am.
You are correct, Brionne, we do have the information from the 1911 Census and also the details from the passenger list, but I don't think that I can access the English electoral rolls or the phone books from here in Oz.
Also, I didn't realise that the booking numbers for the Largs Bay passengers indicated when the bookings were made. That is very handy information to have for future research on other families.We have assumed that Sidney's parents were still in Dinton in 1926 and that is why we wanted to know why Sidney was living in Pound Cottage if his family was also in Dinton.
Since I put my post on I have found newspaper articles here in Oz for the arrival of the Largs Bay 1926 voyage with Sidney aboard stating that there were 30 "Little Brothers" aboard. Checking this revealed that the "Big Brother Movement" brought out a lot of teenage boys and placed them on farms in Oz. The Big Brother Movement has offices out here, so we are in the process of asking them to please check their archives for Sidney.
Now I am also wondering if perhaps one of our Soldiers based in the area might have been befriended by the Pomeroy family, and Sidney came out to live with them? Or perhaps Jack Dukes looked after him on the trip?
As I said, Sidney never spoke of his English family and until his son began researching he never knew that Sidney had siblings in England. We now know there were several (all dead now of course)and we wondered if Sidney didn't want to come to Oz, but was sent anyway. Or maybe he had an argument with his father and left?
The link to the Grade ll listing is excellent, however I can't seem to get an image of the house. I'll keep trying - must be there somewhere. ::)
Typical genealogical research - one answer leads to more questions.
Thanks once again. If you can go and have a look Brionne we will be looking forward to your information.
Noells
Sidney's son will be really pleased to get the Grade ll Listing information.
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Hi Noells,
Have just sent you a PM - keep a lookout for it under "My Messages".
Alan
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Wiltshire Online Parish Clerks [OPCs] has Dinton included ,Cathy Sedgwick runs it.Lots of info including the 1996 property details of Pound Cottage,with picture.
www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk
Brionne
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A bit more,the guy Jack Dukes came from the Wyndham Arms pub across the road from Pound Cottage in Hindon Rd Dinton,1911,his father was the Publican.[Jack working at Stratford Sub Castle Salisbury 1926]more of his family ran another one in same village,East End Inn.
So thats the connection between the two men going to Aus together,would imagine.
Have been across there this morning,looks as if Pound Cottage is still there,now I know right spot,/house,but did not stop and get out and have real good look.Worried in case some thought I was up to no good.Will try again another time.
My dog had a good walk in Dinton Park,so not a wasted journey.
By the way Jack vincent Dukes died age 32,in 1935 ,Portland Victoria,Aus.
Brionne.
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thanks Brionne
The Wiltshire OPC site is great. I must admit it is quite a while since I searched for anything using the OPC. I must check back on some of them for my elusive ancestors records.
The picture on the OPC for Pound cottage is really great. Looks like a big house to me, not a cottage ;D
The information on Jack Jukes has been very helpful. There is a small item in The Argus newspaper on 15th January,1935 that Jack Jukes died suddenly in Portland West where he had lived for 7 years.(Trove Newspapers web site)
Seems like they came out together, but we probably will never know why.
Noells
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Hi Brionne
I have now confirmed that Sidney Pomeroy did not come to Oz as a "little brother" , at least that fits in with your suggestion that he came out with Jack Vincent Jukes.
Further searching out here has revealed a couple of Jukes families living in the Warrnambool area of Victoria. The woman Sidney Pomeroy married was living in Warrnambool when they met, so I am now searching to see if there might be a connection. As you found, Jack Vincent Jukes died in Portland West which is not far by Australian standards from Warrnambool.
I now have heaps of information on the Jukes family in England, but as yet haven't been able to connect them. One line of the family seems to have been wealthy and even had a street in Warrnambool named after them.
History of Street Name:
Alfred Meredith Jukes (c.1822-1872) was the first Town Clerk of the Municipal Council from 1856 to 1857. In 1856 he was described as an attorney and solicitor. Born in London he arrived in Warrnambool in 1853. His son Charles Allan Jukes (1868-1934) established the Floral Farm in East Warrnambool, now the location of Floral Place and was a Warrnambool Councillor 1917-1920.
thanks again for you assistance
Noells
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So pleased this is coming together.
My interest in your initial query is that my Henry West 1819-1890,South Newton/Wishford, Wilton Wilts,married a Maria Pomroy 1822-1868,at Wishford.Wilts.
My line is this guys brother William,both were sons of Lazarus West,large family.
Have not done any research on Maria yet,but possibly one of yours.
As regards the Alfred Jukes,another connection is that I believe the Alfred Jukes age 43,with the family 1911 Dinton was an Army Pensioner,b Dinton 1868,was Alfred Herbert Jukes.
There is a Boar War record which may be him,[not yet proved]in Royal Engineers.
Well,my Gdfather John MacPherson was married at Wilton 1899,having been in the Royal Engineers for 12 years,from a boy.He married an Elizabeth Matilda West.
My crowd lived at Riverside Wilton,,,,John [Jack]then worked as a joiner, after his marriage, for the Wilton Estate[Earl of Pembroke]he later built houses in Portsmouth and died there in 1943.
George Jukes father of Jack who went to Aus also died in the Southampton area 1970.
Still looking at overall picture,
Brionne.
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i LIVE NEXT DOOR TO POUND COTTAGE AND THERE IS STILL POMEROYS IN DINTON.
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So pleased this is coming together.
My interest in your initial query is that my Henry West 1819-1890,South Newton/Wishford, Wilton Wilts,married a Maria Pomroy 1822-1868,at Wishford.Wilts.
My line is this guys brother William,both were sons of Lazarus West,large family.
Have not done any research on Maria yet,but possibly one of yours.
As regards the Alfred Jukes,another connection is that I believe the Alfred Jukes age 43,with the family 1911 Dinton was an Army Pensioner,b Dinton 1868,was Alfred Herbert Jukes.
There is a Boar War record which may be him,[not yet proved]in Royal Engineers.
Well,my Gdfather John MacPherson was married at Wilton 1899,having been in the Royal Engineers for 12 years,from a boy.He married an Elizabeth Matilda West.
My crowd lived at Riverside Wilton,,,,John [Jack]then worked as a joiner, after his marriage, for the Wilton Estate[Earl of Pembroke]he later built houses in Portsmouth and died there in 1943.
George Jukes father of Jack who went to Aus also died in the Southampton area 1970.
Still looking at overall picture,
Brionne.
Hi Brionne, I fear I'm a tad late to this discussion, but this had tweaked my interest. You say you're a relative of William West from South Newton? - I'm a direct descendant of the West line through his other brother, Simon.
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Hi Nathan,Welcome to RootsChat.
You will need to make at least 3 posts before you can send a Personal Message.
Would be interested to know your connection to Simon West and South Newton.
Have not looked at this post for ages and lost my original notes.
Make a couple of posts and you can PM me.
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Thank you for the kind welcome Brionne. I stumbled on this thread through sheer luck having only started researching my family the last year or so.
This'll be my third post in the community, presumably allowing me to send PMs now.