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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: denby on Sunday 02 March 14 14:19 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
Am new to Irish family research. Am searching for a marriage of a William Commons/Cummings to an Anastasia Goff (possibly also Gough) in County Wexford in the 1770s or early 1780s. Their son William married in Sydney (Cape Breton), Nova Scotia about 1804. Any help in locating this couple and their line back in Ireland would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Denby
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Denby,
Its very hard to find information for those dates in Ireland, even knowing Wexford is not a great help you really need a Townland or Parish. Very few parish registers include those dates, most start somewhat later, but some do include late 1700's.
I have 'Cummins' in my tree, not too far off the name and William was a very commonly used family name by that Family. They were from Ballymurn, Co Wexford but that does not mean anything and even though I know the area I have only been able to get to a possible birth 1776 from a gravestone.
I think you will find Cummins a common name in the south of the County Wexford too. As for Goff/Gough I have not come across that name in the area at all.
Sorry but with that information I think its unlikely that you will trace them.
M
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Thanks for your reply. Your knowledge is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely, Denby
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http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/
This link is for a pay site but has free information on distribution of surnames in Ireland at the time of Griffiths Valuation - mid 1800s. Shows Gough, McGough and Goff were all in Co. Wexford at that time. :)
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Thanks for the update on the Goff (Gough, McGough) family. At least I know it was the correct county.
Denby
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Hello
I don't know if this will help - I am looking for information on Denis and Mary Cummins nee Kehoe both born ca 1800. I have found a Denis Cummins born 1795 died 1853. Whether or not he is the guy I am looking for, I don't know but he is buried in grave 1 row 24 in Adamstown Cemetery in Wexford - see attachment. Also buried in that plot is his mother Anastasia born 1774 died 1847.
JC
John Cummings
Anglesea, Australia
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Thanks, JC.
Am not sure if it is related to the couple I'm seeking but will hang on to the information just the same, just in case it is. Thanks for sharing it and have a great day.
Dennis
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Hi,
Here's what I found. William Cummings was born in 1753. He 's from County Wexford, Ireland. He married Anastasia Goff born in 1760. They immigrated to Canada. Concerning them that's all I have and I would be very glad to learn more about them and their parents amd so on. Their son also called William was born in 1779 in Sydney Nova Scotia, got married with Sophie Payne/Penn/Paine born in 1776 who first got married to Michel Gould. So William married Sophie, a widow, in1804. They moved to Havre-Aubert (Îles-de-la-Madeleine) an island located in the Atlantic Ocean closed to Nova Scotia in Canada. William died in 1840.
My grandmother's name on my mother's side was Angelique Cummings. She was living in Natashquan, in the lower North Coast in the province of Québec. I hope this is what you were looking for.
Marie-France
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Hi Marie-France, wish to know your information source for the dates and names. Looking for same family. Thanks.
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Hi, I looked through the Irish parish registers and sadly there is no record of the birth of William Cummings/Commons, nor for Anastasia Goff/Gough. Also, there is no marriage record for the two of them either. The time period that you are looking for has very few records that have survived. Kim
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Thanks Kim
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Hi Marie-France, wish to know your information source for the dates and names. Looking for same family. Thanks.
The source for this information is from the Havre-Aubert registers and my book, Dictionnaire généalogique des familles des Iles-de-la-Madeleine (published in 2001, Quebec City). Incidentally, I recently learned that Sophie was not a widow, but actually left her first husband to live with William Cummings. They subsequently married (or had their union blessed) in 1814 at the Islands (a Catholic marriage ceremony without an annulment from her first marriage or dispensation), all while her first husband was still alive and living in Nova Scotia. Too bad there are not more details to explain all this. Dennis Boudreau
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Hi, I looked through the Irish parish registers and sadly there is no record of the birth of William Cummings/Commons, nor for Anastasia Goff/Gough. Also, there is no marriage record for the two of them either. The time period that you are looking for has very few records that have survived. Kim
Thanks, Kim. Appreciate your help even if you found nothing.
Dennis
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Denby,
Its very hard to find information for those dates in Ireland, even knowing Wexford is not a great help you really need a Townland or Parish. Very few parish registers include those dates, most start somewhat later, but some do include late 1700's.
I have 'Cummins' in my tree, not too far off the name and William was a very commonly used family name by that Family. They were from Ballymurn, Co Wexford but that does not mean anything and even though I know the area I have only been able to get to a possible birth 1776 from a gravestone.
I think you will find Cummins a common name in the south of the County Wexford too. As for Goff/Gough I have not come across that name in the area at all.
Sorry but with that information I think its unlikely that you will trace them.
M
Thanks nonetheless,
Dennis
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I too have Cummins, allegedly - from later English Census records, from Wexford, and they are simply impossible to untangle or trace. Good luck, you'll need it.
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I don't know if this will help. It's the story of André Cummings from my grandmother's book about Sept Iles families. It references William and Anastasiaso I translated the text for you denby and there's a citation from Marielle Grenier a descendent who might know something. It's a long shot and overall maybe of more interest to Marie-France. Good luck.
André Cummings
1874-1953 - Arrived to Sept-Iles QC,1908
Origin: Pointe aux Esquimaux
The Cummings are of Scottish descent. The first Cummings to arrive on the Madelaine Islands QC was William, son of William Cummings & Anastasia Goff. William was born in Wexford County Ireland. He married Sophia Paine (Payne or Penn) of Royal descendance in Sydney Nova Scotia, 1804. André Cummings is a 5th generation descendant of William Cummings. (There's a citation here in the book, it reads: According to Marielle Grenier, descendant of the Cummings and Boudreau family. M.(2001) Op. cit., Tome IV
And the text continues:
André Cummings, son of Magloire and Eugénie Cyr, was born November the 8th, 1874 in Pointe-aux-Esquimaux. He first travelled to Sept-Iles QC in 1903 and later returned for good in 1908.
On September 15th, 1903 in Natashquan QC, he married Marie Alcima Bourque (Alice), daughter of Joseph-Alcide and Christine L’Oiseau.
Of this union came:
-Alphonsine, born Sept 22nd, 1906. Married Lauréat Arseneault, Oct 8th, 1924, Sept-Iles
-Marie Anne Eugénie, born July 2nd, 1910, Sept-Iles. Sadly Marie Anne Eugénie passed 2 yers later in 1912.
-Georgette Christine, born Aug 12th, 1913. Married Laval Dorion on Jan 4th, 1940 in Quebec City
-Bernadette Evelyne, born June 1st, 1917. Married Roger Bélanger on June 23rd, 1968.
-Claude Roland, born April 11th, 1924. Claude also sadly passed on Sept 3rd, 1925.
-Cora Évangéline, born Feb 20th, 1926. Married Jacques Lapointe on Sept the 5th, 1953 in Sept-Iles.
-Marie Velda Yolande, born sept 3rd, 1927. Married Axel Anderson on Dec 29th, 1953 in Sept-Iles.
-Henri (Harry), adopted child, born march 8th, 1921. Married Lydia Bélanger on Sept 25th, 1954 in Sept iles.
At the outset, André Cummings worked at the whale oil extraction plant and later moved-on to the Clarke City Factory. To support his family however, André relied on transporting merchandise from between their arrival at the docks to the stores for the Hudson Bay Co. He also milled and sold wood to local natives.
His wife Alice was a well known seamstress who confectioned custom coats, pants and other clothes. She designed her own patterns. She was also very much appreciated for the cakes she baked for the local natives.
André’s brother Charles, born 1880 came to Sept-Iles in 1911. He married Marie Josephine Bujold, daughter of Joseph (Alexandre Sandy).
André passed on August 27th, 1953 in Sept-Iles at the age of 79.
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I also found this:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cummings-3973
Biography
Born in Ireland around 1772, William Cummings was a laborer in Nova Scotia who later moved to the Îles de la Madeleine, Quebec, Canada. His first two children, born in Nova Scotia, were baptized by Bishop Joseph-Octave Plessis in June of 1811. [1]
The 1831 Census of Lower Canada lists William Cummings, a fisherman, living in Gaspe, Iles-de-la-Madeleine, Canada. A total of 6 people lived in his household. [2]