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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: noxas on Thursday 06 March 14 16:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Is there any way of finding out the age of a person mentioned in the Griffiths valuation or whether they had a family or is the only the only information that of the named individual I will be grateful for any help with this query.
Regards Diarmuid.
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Hi There
Griffiths Valuation is basically just a list of the person whom was responsible for paying the rates on a plot of land, so in short the answer to your question is no.
If you have a family tree question, please post it and we shall try and help !
Tara
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Hi Tara,
Thanks for your reply, the person whose family I am looking into is a Patrick Crowe any information would be great .
With thanks Diarmuid.
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Hi There Diarmuid
I have vague memories of helping you with Crowe's of Carlow before !
Can you let us know exactly where you stand now, ie what info you have gotten and verified and what info you are still looking for ?!
Tara
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Hi,
Yes I have had help with line in the past, but still struggle to progress this line too much further.
I have a Patrick Crowe in my line he is my g, grandfather on my fathers side of the family he was married to a lady by the name of Catherine Deegan , I wondered if the Patrick in the land valuation is a relation of my g. grandfather.
Diarmuid.
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Again,
Can you tell us what information you have ?!
For a start do you have the marriage of Patrick Crowe and Catherine Deegan ?
Tara
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Hi Tara.
Yes I have a copy of their wedding cert. they were married in Tinryland on the 29th.April 1877.
Patrick's father is named as James Crowe.
Catherine's father is named as Michael Deegan.
I have no idea of either of their spouses or any other information on them, all I have is what is on the cert.
Diarmuid.
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Hi Diarmuid !
What were the occupations listed for:
Catherine Deegan
Patrick Crowe
James Crowe
Michael Deegan
I'm just concerned that Crowe and Deegan are not really what you would call Carlow surnames - so letting me know the occupations on the cert might give me a lead.
Tara
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Hi Tara,
The men are all listed as labourers Catherine has this where it say's rank or position Do, not sure if this means domestic.
Diarmuid.
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Have you tried this possible death for Patrick ?
Patrick Crowe
Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Age at death 38
District Enniscorthy
Volume 4 Page 542
Enniscorty can cover Carlow too !
If it was the correct cert then it wold hopefully have an address on it !
Tara
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Your patrick married in 1877 so you take an average of 20 years off his marriage to give him a birth circa 1857 too young to be on Griffiths Valuation ,its his father James you should be looking for.
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Hi Tara,
I had not thought of anywhere other than Carlow mainly because my great grandfather worked on the Browneshill estate.
I have only used records I have got from the G.R.O. so I'm not quite sure to use the reference that you have supplied so if you could give me some guidance I would be very grateful.
Regards Diarmuid.
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Hiya
Those references that I posted are the standard ones !
I think for the sake of 4 euro it would be worth the gamble.
I don't think there is any other avenue that I can see at the mo !
Tara
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Tara,
You can order a photocopy of the certificate from GRO Roscommon for €4. http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx
You have to download and print off the form. Then either post or fax it back to them. You can’t e-mail it to them. However if you want them to e-mail the cert to back to you, they will do that, so tick the relevant box.
Put the reference details on the form (anywhere). Don’t worry about leaving some boxes blank. As long as GRO have the location, name(s), year, quarter (where there is one), volume and page number they should find it.
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Thanks Elwyn
It's actually 'Noxas' though that needs that info !
Tara
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Hi All,
Thank for all of your help, I am aware of the ordering of certs just wasn't sure of the ref. no's as I have always been able to order using names dates, and areas.
I think what I was asking was do these ref. no's come from the L.D.S. site, as I have never been too sure how to use these.
With thank's,Diarmuid.
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The ref numbers are from the index books of the GRO, transcribed by the LDS. So mistakes possible although I've never had a problem so far.
The LDS will also have it's own numbers on each record but these are of no use when ordering Certs.
Apart from name, area etc you just need the Vol number and the Page number.
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Hi Sinann,
Thank's for the help with the ref nos. that is going to be useful in the future, as I said in an earlier post I have always been able to use name, date and location up until now. I have been lucky to have these as known points of reference.
Regards Diarmuid.