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Title: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Thursday 06 March 14 19:58 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find out some information about Rashiehil Farm which is between Kippen and Fintry. My mum and her parents lived there sometime between 1919-1930. I would like to find out exactly when they farmed there. I've looked at Valuation roll for 1920 but no luck. Their name was Colquhoun and I think they rented the farm from Ross's Dairies. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Friday 16 May 14 11:15 BST (UK)
I'm still hoping that someone can help me to find out when my Mum and her parents lived at Rashiehill Farm. Can anyone suggest how I could find out when they lived there? I contacted Balfron library who were going to pass my inquiry on to the local heritage group but as yet I haven't heard back from them. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: nkbauer on Saturday 17 May 14 16:03 BST (UK)
I'm not sure if this is the same place but I had  some family living at a Rashiehill Farm, Slamman, Stirling. There is some information about this area in the 1840's-1850's at edina.ac.uk. No need to sign in. Go down to"browse scanned pages". Click on there and then enter the parish. It will give you information on the crops grown in this area but maybe not specifically Rashiehill Farm.
Hope this was helpful, Nan
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: apanderson on Saturday 17 May 14 18:38 BST (UK)
According to Ancestry ......

At the time of the 1901 Census, Living at Rashiehill, Balfron Parish, Stirlingshire

Samuel McQueen, age 21, Farmer, born Thornhill
Janet McQueen, age 68, Farmer’s Wife, born ‘Kippax’ (Kippen?)
Jeanie McQueen, age 29, Daughter, Servant, born ‘Kippax’
James Rutherford, age 19, Ploughman, born Glasgow

Janet is listed as Samuel’s wife, but obviously there’s something wrong somewhere – it’s more likely that Janet was his mother.

1901 Census, Living at Rashiehill Farm, Slamannan, Stirlingshire were the Graham Family headed by David Graham, Farmer.

Anne
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Sunday 18 May 14 10:35 BST (UK)
Thank you for your replies. The Rashiehill Farm I'm interested in is the one near Fintry/Kippen/Balfron area rather than the one at Slamannan. The farm is on the road between Kippen and Fintry. I know my Mum and her parents lived there sometime between 1919-1930's and I'm hoping to find out exactly when they farmed there but I don't know where I can find out that information.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 18 May 14 10:50 BST (UK)
Rashiehill Farm, Fintry  is mentioned in a 1937 newspaper article naming 114 Farm Managers applying for a post at a manager's post at Westgreen Mental Hospital Farm in Dundee. The manager at Rashiehill being a James R Watson aged 38.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: apanderson on Sunday 18 May 14 10:54 BST (UK)
Searching the 1920 Valuation Roll might be a good option? (Scotland's People).

Anne
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 18 May 14 11:04 BST (UK)
National Archives Scotland has an index for Ross's Dairies records 1911 - 1980, but doesn't say where the records are actually located. Elsewhere suggests they might be held at Glasgow City Archives, so perhaps worth asking via the Mitchell Library:

http://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/libraries/the-mitchell-library/archives/Pages/home.aspx
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 18 May 14 11:35 BST (UK)
Just a thought, when you contacted the library at Balfron, did you ask if they held any local trade directories from the 1920s? Most libraries would be willing to do a quick check of same for someone who can't get to the area to check in person. If you didn't ask, might be worth getting back to them or contacting the heritage group directly:

http://www.balfronheritage.org.uk/home
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Tuesday 20 May 14 08:59 BST (UK)
Thank you for the replies to my post. apanderson - I've already checked the 1920 valuation but no luck. scotmum - I'll follow up your suggestions about contacting Balfron and Mitchell libraries and the Heritage centre. Thank you again.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: Lindaporter on Sunday 13 July 14 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi there. I think the farm you are looking for is Rushiehill Farm rather then Rashiehill. As far as I remember it is lived in now my the family Aitken. There is an archive place in Stirling that I have used on a few occasions and always found what I was looking for. My mum still stays in fri try so I can try and help with any info I'd you are not local. Please let me know. Regards
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Monday 14 July 14 08:23 BST (UK)
Thank you Lindaporter for your reply. I found the spelling for Rashiehill on the internet but as you say it's possible that there are other variations. I know that my family lived there sometime between 1919 and the early1930's. I think they rented the farm and it may have been owned by Ross's Dairies but I'm not sure. I did contact the local library but so far they haven't been able to help me. As I stay in Shetland it's difficult for me to visit libraries so any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 14 July 14 09:05 BST (UK)
The "farm" is noted on the West side of the B822, on the same side road that Provanston farm is situated.


http://www.yell.com/biz/g-aitken-glasgow-731768/?view=map

http://www.misterwhat.co.uk/company/1332298-g-aitken-glasgow

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Monday 14 July 14 13:29 BST (UK)
Thank you Flattybasher9 for the information.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: TThornton on Thursday 09 October 14 22:16 BST (UK)
My mother's an Aitken, by chance I'm in the company right now of an uncle whose knowledge of Fintry farming history won't be easily bettered.  He informs me that my great grandfather Robert Aitken took over the tenancy of Rashiehill in 1904 from the McQueens - he died in 1913 and my grandfather, also Robert Aitken, ran the farm until 1922 when it was bought by Charles Ross, who had dairy interests in Glasgow.  Rashiehill was part of the Culcreuch Estate which was broken up in 1922 - Ross bought it at auction, and it remained in the possession of Ross's Dairies until 1955.  Your parents would've worked the dairy for Ross as I understand things.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Friday 10 October 14 09:18 BST (UK)
Thank you TThornton for your reply. I'm trying to do a timeline for where my Grandparents farmed. I know from birth and christening records that they were in Cardross 1914, Tayvalloch 1918/19 and Easterhouse 1921. I wasn't sure if they were at Rashiehill before or after being at Easterhouse. As Ross's dairies only bought the farm in 1922 I now know that my Grandparents were at Fintry after Easterhouse. My guess is that they took over the running of Rashiehill in 1922 when it was bought by Ross's. I would like to find out how long they were at Fintry but not sure how I ca do this! They moved to Arden, Dunbartonshire sometime in the late 1920's or early 1930's. Thank you again for helping.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: TThornton on Saturday 11 October 14 01:25 BST (UK)
I'm told that from 1922 one Patrick Gill was at Rashiehill, before the Colquhouns - suggestion is that they were there from mid-20s, 1925/26?
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Saturday 11 October 14 08:16 BST (UK)
Thank you again TThornton for your help. I contacted Fintry School to ask if there were any school records available but as yet I've not heard back from them. The information you have given me narrows it down a bit. Maybe they were at Easterhouse from about 1921-1925 before moving to Rashiehill. I think they moved to Arden before 1930. If only I had asked my Mum!
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 11 October 14 10:26 BST (UK)
The place to find all this out is to look the farm up in the Valuation Rolls. These were published annually by the local authorities as the basis on which rates (local taxes) were levied. They list, for each habitable house, the names of the proprietor, tenant and occupier.

For example House2000's people might be occupiers of a house tenanted by Patrick McGill and owned by Ross's Dairies.

There are almost certainly copies in the Stirling or Falkirk archives, and possibly in public libraries in that area as well. There are definitely copies in the National Library of Scotland and I think in the National Archives of Scotland.

None of which is terribly handy if you don't happen to be in central Scotland. You might need to find someone (professional searcher or kind soul) who would be willing to look them up for you. Be aware that this will involve ordering and waiting for a large book for each year, leafing through the book to find Rashiehill (properties are listed by parish, and not in alphabetical order within parishes) and noting the relevant surnames, then doing the same with the next year and so on.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Saturday 11 October 14 11:54 BST (UK)
Thank you Forfarian for your reply suggesting looking at Valuation Rolls. As you say, visiting libraries to check the records may help but as I live in Shetland perhaps some kind soul can help me! I had a look on SP at 1915 and 1920 Valuation Rolls but unfortunately so far I haven't been able to find my Grandparents. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 11 October 14 12:13 BST (UK)
I had a look on SP at 1915 and 1920 Valuation Rolls but unfortunately so far I haven't been able to find my Grandparents.

No, it sounds as if they were there later than 1920, so you'd need to go for later ones. Maybe some day you might make it south as far as Edinburgh, if you can tear yourself away from home.
Title: Re: Rashiehill Farm, Fintry/Kippen
Post by: HOUSE2000 on Saturday 11 October 14 12:42 BST (UK)
Unfortunately SP only have Valuation Rolls up to 1920 at the moment so even if I did find them it would have been before they moved to Rashiehill. Yes I hope to visit the National Archives eventually. Some day I might solve the mystery!