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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: monke on Sunday 09 March 14 10:44 GMT (UK)
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Hi :)
can someody please tell me more infromation about Filip Brljevich in New Zealand, He cam from Dalmatia at the begining of 20.th century. Can i somehow find out names of his parents and offspring ?
Thank you very much
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Hello,
So far the only thing I can find is in the Personal Column of 'The New Zealand Herald' dated 18.4.1917. Philip Brljevich of Dairy Flat* wishing to make contact with M. Brljevich.
*Near Auckland.
From Papers Past website.........
Minniehaha.
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There are only nine listings under Brljevich in the New Zealand "White Pages". Maybe you could consider going down that route?
Minniehaha.
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1917 Alien Records show a Filip Brljevich age 27 b. Dalmatia, 3 yrs in NZ at Waitemata.
1926 NZ Gazette show a Filip Brljevich in Naturalisation Records 2 Mar 1926, Labourer at Waihara.
John B
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Hi monke
Sorry, can't help at all with names of parents of Filip (or Philip) ... and can't see a marriage in NZ for this man either.
The New Zealand electoral roll listings for Filip BRLJEVICH seem to indicate that perhaps he had no wife or family - i.e. he seems not to have been residing with anyone bearing the same surname.
Do have his NZ Naturalisation record, which I'll add next.
~ Lu
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NZ Naturalisation
Filip BRLJEVICH
Born : 1 May 1888 - aged 37 years
At: Momic, Dalmatia
Former Nationality : Yugoslavian
Occupation: Labourer
Res. City : Waiharara
Nat. Date: 2 March 1926
File # 20/1/2787
Cert. # 78 Registration page # 117
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Hi monke
I see you had an earlier thread mentioning the name of Mate BRLJEVICH.
Is this likely to be the same person as "M. BRLJEVICH" mentioned in the newspaper item ??
~ Lu
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Monke ... there is also the following naturalisation (possibly a sibling of Filip) ???
NZ Naturalisation
Ante BRLJEVICH
Born: 9 April 1885
At: Momic, Dalmatia
Occ: Labourer
Residence: Waiharara
Naturalisation Date: 7 February 1925
~ Lu
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Unable to find a death for him in New Zealand either.......
Minniehaha.
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Hi monke
Well, yes, ... no obvious death for Filip BRLJEVICH in New Zealand. I was also unable to find a death for him in Australia.
Might he have returned to his original homeland ??
~ Lu
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New Zealand Electoral
for Filip BRLJEVICH
1928 - Northland - Marsden
- residing at Pohuehue - occ: Labourer
1935 - Wellington Central
- at 53a Webb Street, - occ: Labourer
1938 - Bay of Plenty - Rotorua
- Public Works Department - occ: Labourer
1946 - Wellington Central
- 109 Taranaki Street - occ: Restaurant Proprietor
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Lucy and minnie thank you ror your help.
This Mate is important. Could you please find some traces of him in NZ?
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New Zealand Electoral
for Filip BRLJEVICH
1935 - Wellington Central
- at 53a Webb Street, - occ: Labourer
Just noting that in addition to above electoral listing, there was also the following entry published
in the Wise's NZPO (Post Office) Directory :
1936 - Wellington
# 53a Webb Street
BRLJEVICH - Phlp. - rstrnt. (= Abbreviation for "restaurant")
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Monke - the following is all I am able to see in relation to Mate BRLJEVICH in New Zealand :
New Zealand Naturalisations
BRLJEVICH - Mate
Birth date - abt. 1883
Age : 28 years
Birthplace : Metkovich, Dalmatia
Former Nationality : Austrian
Occupation: Labourer
Residence: Wade
Nat. Date : 19 January 1911
Cert. # 55 / Reg. page : 106
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and ... PapersPast : http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Auckland Star" - 7 February 1920 - Page 1 / column 1
(Notices) Would any person who knows address of Mate BRLJEVICH .... communicate with Stepan BEBICH, G. P. O. Auckland ?*. News important.
[Note: * Question mark ( ? ) appears after the name "Auckland". Have no idea what this means though it perhaps could be just a simple typesetting error ?? ]
The advertisement ran in the same newspaper also on the dates of 9 / 12 / 19 and 20 February 1920.
~ Lu
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Lucy thank you :-* :)
Is there any way i can get the view of original document of naturalization of Mate ??
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
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Lucy thank you :-* :)
Is there any way i can get the view of original document of naturalization of Mate ??
Hi monke
The Naturalisation records are held at Archives New Zealand (Wellington office).
You might like to read the Archives Guide re: Naturalisation.
http://archives.govt.nz/research/guides/citizenship.
Perhaps you can email Archives and ask what additional information is available from a Naturalisation record (i.e. apart from what is given in the Index listing.) ?
~ Lu
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Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
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Hello...
Following on from the naturalisation details supplied by Lucy...
This might be a red herring but the only Mate BRJLEVICH (BRJLEVIĆ) who gets a mention in the mid-1880's Metković birth registers happens to be a father of twins.
Here are images of the Register entries...
Entry no.60
BRJLEVIC,Ivan_1884birth.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yhs/
Entry no.61
BRJLEVIC,Jela_1884birth.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yhr/
You can download the images to your computer by clicking on the "Download" button. You can then zoom in and read the entries a lot easier.
Here's a rough translation...
Born: 28 Prosinac (December) 1884
Baptised: 1 Siječanj (January) 1885
Child's name: Ivan BRJLEVIĆ
Child's name: Jela BRJLEVIĆ
Zakonit/Zakonita (Legitimate)
Mother: Mara MARINOVIĆ
Father: Mate BRJLEVIĆ
Both parents reside in Metković
Parents were married on 25 Veljača (February) 1884
Married in the Roman Catholic Church
Godparents: Stipan VUICA and Stana RADIĆ
Witness: Pero VUKSA
If you want to browse through the Croatian Registers you need to sign up to Family Search. It's free to sign up.
Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1949
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2040054 (https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2040054)
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If you want to take this further I think you need to go backwards.
Here's the 1884 marriage of Mate BRJLEVIĆ and Mara MARINOVIĆ as a starting point.
BRJLEVIĆ_MARINOVIĆ_1884marriage.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yht/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yht/)
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My thinking is that as Momic/Momici (mentioned earlier by Lucy) is just a few miles from Metković this Mate and Mara BRJLEVIĆ are somewhere in the picture. Unfortunately they can't be the parents of Ante BRJLEVIĆ as he was born only four months after the twins. Possibly aunt and uncle?
I've looked through the Metković birth registers up to 1890 and there is no other mention of the name BRJLEVIĆ which implies that, at least in this area, BRJLEVIĆ is not that common a name.
There's no mention in the Metković birth registers of the Momici births of Ante b.1885 and Filip b.1888. Or at least none that I can find. Possibly Momici came under a different parish, although that seems unlikely as it wouldn't be more than a ten minute donkey ride away from Metković. Family Search has some other Croatian Birth Registers labelled "Vid (Metković)" which I had a quick look through but nothing jumped out.
As I said earlier, may well be a red herring but worth looking at further.
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Came across the following a few days ago. Is it related to this family...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93)
Regards
Beg
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There is this burial in Waikumete cemetery in Auckland
BRLJEVICH, IVAN STEPE
Plot : ROMAN CATHOLIC BERM A Row 8, Plot 36
Interment Type: Burial
Title: MR
Surname : BRLJEVICH
Given Names: IVAN STEPE
Age : 73
Gender : Male
Occupation: LABOURER
Date Of Death : 17-Oct-1958
Date Of Burial : 21-Oct-1958
Funeral Director : C LITTLE & SONS LIMITED
Head Stone Details : Y
Cheers Janette
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There is this burial in Waikumete cemetery in Auckland
BRLJEVICH, IVAN STEPE
Hello Janette...
My thinking was that that was the Ivan mentioned in the letter at the end of my previous post. Too much to hope that he was also the twin Ivan born in Metkovic :-)
There's a few BRLJEVICH probates at Auckland which the original poster may want to have looked-up, in particular this one...
BRLJEVICH Ante - Kaitaia - Retired
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=954351 (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=954351)
Regards
Beg
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I wondered that,Beg,the age is right for him
Cheers Janette
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Hi,
Throwing this into the pit, from Naturalisation Records.
Name: Ante Brljevich
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1885
Age: 39
Birth Place: Momic, Dalmatia
Former Nationality: Yugoslavian
Occupation: Labourer
Residence City: Waiharara
Naturalisation Date: 7 Feb 1925
Name: Ivan Brljevich
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age: 26 Yrs
Birth Place: Vrgorac, Dalmatia
Former Nationality: Austrian
Occupation: Labourer
Residence City: Maungaturoto
Naturalisation Date: 20 Apr 1912
Cheers
KHP
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I popped into Waikumete this afternoon and Ivan Stepe has the name Jack on his headstone,I have emailed the funeral directors to see if they can help any further
Cheers Janette
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Hello Monke...
Here's a West Australian newspaper report mentioning a Mat BRLJEVICH. He has a nephew Anti BRLJEVICH.
Perhaps Mat = Mate and Anti = Ante
The West Australian (Perth, WA)
Wednesday 28 July 1937
Page 15
ASSAULT CHARGE FAILS
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41415260 (http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41415260)
May be Mate or maybe not as WA BMD mentions the 1968 death of a Matija BRLJEVICH. Is Matija a male or female name.
Either way he/she is aged 76 at death so born c.1892 which is ten years too late to be the Mate BRLJEVICH b.1883 mentioned by Lucy in Reply #13
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=FB00024085 (http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=FB00024085)
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Ryerson has a 2002 death for a Mato BRLJACIC born c.1922 Maybe another nephew. Or maybe not as the surname is spelt differently.
BRLJACIC, Mato - d. 14 Jun 2004 aged 82 at QEH - Death notice: Adelaide Advertiser 16 Jun 2004
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Australia Archives holds a dozen or so BRLJEVICH files including the Matija and possibly the Ante mentioned above.
Well worth asking for further advice on the Australia board as to how to view the contents of the files.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx (http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx)
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What information do you actually have? In your threads for both Filip and Mate all you seem to have done is give a name and then assume that everything will be revealed.
I'm guessing you're maybe related to the BRLJEVICH family so it would be helpful if you could tell us what you know about them.
And I'm curious as to why you said that Mate is important. Personally I'm with Harry Bosch who says that everyone is important or no-one is important :-)
Regards
Beg
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Monke's previous threads :
New Zealand board : Topic : Mate BRLJEVICH (July 2013)
Europe board : Topic : Russian Marriage around 1920 (mentions Mate BRLJEVICH)
;)
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Wohoo lots of replies but you got on wrong track.
Mate Brljevich was born in Momići, village near Metkovic but it was under different parish. So Ivan and Jela Brljevich are not related to him.
Mate came back to Europe and his old country in 1920s i believe. 1932. he was definetly in Europe, not Australia. I'm trying to find out as much as possible about his life in New Zealand...
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Mate Brljevich was born in Momići, village near Metkovic but it was under a different parish
Hello...
Thanks for the info regarding Metković being the wrong parish. In my defence, it was an easy mistake to make as the distance between Momići and Metković would be little more than two miles.
So I'm hoping you know the right parish. Which one of the other eight hundred-ish Croatian parishes on Family Search should we be looking at.
If you're unsure you could maybe email the Archives in Metković and ask for suggestions
Sabirni arhivski centar Metković-Opuzen-Ploče
http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php (http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php)
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The 2011 Census of Croatia gives the population of Momići as only 205 people. Have you considered writing a letter to one or two of the ten BRLJEVIĆs the Croatian White Pages currently list as living in Momići. There's a fairly good chance that at least one of the ten shares a common ancestor with the people you seek.
Hrvatski Telekom
http://imenik.tportal.hr/?lang=en (http://imenik.tportal.hr/?lang=en)
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One of the Momići BRLJEVIĆs is quite active on Facebook. He seems to be in his late twenties or thirties so probably a bit too young to be interested in genealogy but if you make contact he may well pass on your contact details to an older relative.
I'll PM you his Facebook contact details.
You've nothing to lose by trying the Facebook route. As long as your message is short, polite and (I'm guessing) in Croatian you should receive an equally short but hopefully helpful reply.
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Mate came back to Europe
I'm trying to find out as much as possible about his life in New Zealand...
I hope I'm proven wrong but I don't think you're going to find too much more other than that which has already been mentioned in this thread. Mate seems to have left a very small paper trail.
Hopefully Filip might turn up somewhere. He seems a bit more find-able.
But if you want info on their parents/siblings/offspring I think you need to go back to the source, namely Croatia.
Regards
Beg
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And I forgot to mention :)
You didn't comment in your reply but can I repeat what I said yesterday....
You really should start a new thread asking for a look-up of the probate file for Ante BRLJEVICH.
BRLJEVICH Ante - Kaitaia - Retired
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=954351 (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=954351)
And while you're at it ask for his wife's file too...
BRLJEVICH Katica
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=1192873 (http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=1192873)
Some kind Rootschatter will visit Auckland Archives on your behalf, take photos of the files and then email them to you. There's no guarantee it will help but you never know.
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And as suggested it's possible, if not quite likely, that Ante and Filip are brothers. So as a final resort you might think of purchasing a printout of Ante's 1964 death certificate. It may well mention his parents. If not, it will certainly mention his marriage details as his widow would have supplied them. From this you can hunt down their marriage certificate which should supply details of Ante's and Filip's parents, assuming Ante and Filip are brothers.
Regards
Beg
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The Ivan Stepe Brljevich who is buried in Waikumete had never married,he was born in ORAH Vgorac Yugoslavia,his parents were Ante Brljevich and Matia (M.S. Vidavich) and he had lived in NZ 54 years.
Cheers Janette
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The Ivan Stepe Brljevich who is buried in Waikumete had never married,he was born in ORAH Vgorac Yugoslavia,his parents were Ante Brljevich and Matia (M.S. Vidavich) and he had lived in NZ 54 years.
Cheers Janette
Hi Janette...
Are you able to find similar information from the burial record of the Ante BRLJEVICH d.1964 who is buried in Kaitaia cemetery.
Far North District Council
http://www.fndc.govt.nz/search/search-cemetery-record (http://www.fndc.govt.nz/search/search-cemetery-record)
Thanks
Beg
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Hi Beg,I have just emailed the FD asking for help
Cheers Janette
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Can somebody maybe get scanned original document of Mate Brljevich's naturalization from the archives ??
Thanks
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Can somebody maybe get scanned original document of Mate Brljevich's naturalization from the archives ??
Thanks
Hi Monke
If you'd like to get a copy of the naturalisation record (by way of a volunteer who is visiting the Wellington Archives), then you'll need to start another thread (on this board) with that request. :)
~ Lu
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I have just received a reply from the FD in Kaitaia who says their records don't go back that far
Cheers Janette
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Monke - the following is all I am able to see in relation to Mate BRLJEVICH in New Zealand :
New Zealand Naturalisations
BRLJEVICH - Mate
Birth date - abt. 1883
Age : 28 years
Birthplace : Metkovich, Dalmatia
Former Nationality : Austrian
Occupation: Labourer
Residence: Wade
Nat. Date : 19 January 1911
Cert. # 55 / Reg. page : 106
Monke, you'll need also to include above details in your look-up request. ;)
~ Lu
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Hi Monke,
To save you the trouble of a separate request, I'll look for the Naturalisation record for you.
Spades
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Spades thank you very much :)
God bless you !!
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Hi Monke,
I have images of the file for you.
Could you PM me with your email address, please.
Spades
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Images sent.
Spades
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Thank you spades. You made my day :)
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Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
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Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
[/Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
Lucy thank you :-* :)
And why he is not on voting lists if he was naturalized? :o
Sorry, haven't got an explanation for that, except that perhaps he left New Zealand for another country after he was naturalised ??
* What do you know (if anything) about Mate ?
* Did he marry, have children etc. ?
~ Lu
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Sorry Oakleigh but what were you trying to say in your last post,I am totally confused with all that quoting ???
Cheers Janette
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Sorry about that. I just started to type a message when it started to rain and I closed down right smart to get my washing in.
For the benefit of all those tracing their Dalmation relatives, you must remember where ever immigrants came from in that eastern European area they all came under the heading of "Austrians". Mostly they came via Sydney in groups, and their entry into NZ was generally Auckland. Maybe also, Wellington. However a letter preceding each group's arrival was sent to Customs Department in
Auckland, and these records are held by Archives New Zealand at Auckland. From these you will get the ship they came on and their arrival date.
Hope this helps.
OAKLEIGH
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Hello I'm sorry for reviving an old post.
I have been looking into my family's ancestry and I haven't have found luck.
In this thread it is mentioned that "Mate BRJLEVICH (BRJLEVIĆ) who gets a mention in the mid-1880's Metković birth registers happens to be a father of twins."
Do you happen to tell me where I can look for the names of those twins? My grandfather had a twin sister... But we don't know their names. My grandfather was also from Metkovic (Or Momici, I am not exactly sure. I think his house was in Momici).
The odd thing is that my grandfather wrote down that his father was called Joseph BRLJEVICH.
I also found a telephone on his old address book, and it had an Anton BRLJEVICH. I don't know if he was a brother or cousin? The address says Australia.
I cannot seem to find information on any of these names... Any help is appretiated!
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Hello...
Welcome to the NZ board :)
The twins mentioned are Ivan and Jela BRJLEVICH b.28 Dec 1884
They are the children of Mate BRJLEVIĆ and his wife Mara née MARINOVIĆ
Here is a link (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=680204.msg5255211#msg5255211) to reply no.18 of this thread. It gives a rough translation of and a link to copies of the birth register entries. These copies are on my Dropbox account.
The actual scans of the Metković birth registers are on the FamilySearch website but you need to register to view them. It's free to register.
Here's a link to the Metković resources on FamilySearch
http://www.rootschat.com/links/011mq/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/011mq/)
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The following link is also mentioned in reply no.18...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93)
I don't suppose either of the Karrinyup or Wollongong addresses match the Australian address you have.
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In your above post you say...
My grandfather had a twin sister... But we don't know their names
...but then in your other post you mention that you're looking for info on your grandfather Stanko BRJLEVICH. So are you now only looking for the name of your grandfather's twin sister.
You mention that the twins were born in 1906-ish which is unfortunate because the online birth records for Metkovic only go up to 1900.
However the Metkovic marriage registers cover from 1779 up to 1920 so you could always work backwards from 1907 and look for a BRJLEVICH to MUSTAPICH marriage. Might lead somewhere.
Speaking of MUSTAPICH, the passenger list (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22280-31310-82?cc=1916078) you mentioned in your other post says Stanko is a female. Maybe Stanko is the female twin and you're looking for the male... or maybe it's just a clerical error.
The passenger link also says he/she is in transit to Canada. Maybe put a post on the Canada board asking if they can find any mention of him/her.
O Canada
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=166.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=166.0)
Regards
Beg
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Just out of interest a couple of graves are listed here with photo's (are they related?)
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/MariaHazelBrljevich/6810719
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Hello...
Welcome to the NZ board :)
Thanks!
The twins mentioned are Ivan and Jela BRJLEVICH b.28 Dec 1884
They are the children of Mate BRJLEVIĆ and his wife Mara née MARINOVIĆ
Then that's not my grandfather :)
Here is a link (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=680204.msg5255211#msg5255211) to reply no.18 of this thread. It gives a rough translation of and a link to copies of the birth register entries. These copies are on my Dropbox account.
The actual scans of the Metković birth registers are on the FamilySearch website but you need to register to view them. It's free to register.
Here's a link to the Metković resources on FamilySearch
http://www.rootschat.com/links/011mq/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/011mq/)
Sadly, my grandfather was born in 1906... :/ So nothing will show on Metkovic's records.
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The following link is also mentioned in reply no.18...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93)
I don't suppose either of the Karrinyup or Wollongong addresses match the Australian address you have.
Anton Brljevich
34 Mahogany Crt
Karama Darwin N.T.
Australia
Is the full address.
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In your above post you say...
My grandfather had a twin sister... But we don't know their names
...but then in your other post you mention that you're looking for info on your grandfather Stanko BRJLEVICH. So are you now only looking for the name of your grandfather's twin sister.
Well I want to know precisely about his relatives and I want to find the link I have with the NZ families families.
You mention that the twins were born in 1906-ish which is unfortunate because the online birth records for Metkovic only go up to 1900.
However the Metkovic marriage registers cover from 1779 up to 1920 so you could always work backwards from 1907 and look for a BRJLEVICH to MUSTAPICH marriage. Might lead somewhere.
Speaking of MUSTAPICH, the passenger list (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22280-31310-82?cc=1916078) you mentioned in your other post says Stanko is a female. Maybe Stanko is the female twin and you're looking for the male... or maybe it's just a clerical error.
The passenger link also says he/she is in transit to Canada. Maybe put a post on the Canada board asking if they can find any mention of him/her.
O Canada
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=166.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=166.0)
Regards
Beg
He is a Male :) It was probably inputted incorrectly. We know that he traveled to Canada but we don't know if it was due to friends or relatives.
I will look into your suggestions. Thanks!
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This is my grandfather's birth certificate:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kqochhy0dku6qnr/Birth-Certificate-Stanko-Brljevich.pdf
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This is my grandfather's birth certificate
Hi again...
What a superb document. I do like the look of old certificates.
You must have done something to upset the genealogy gods because not only is your grandfather's birth register not online but the marriage register for his parent's 1899 marriage, mentioned on his birth certificate, is also not online. (Does that make sense?)
Stanislaus's birth certificate says that his parents, Joseph and Magdalena, were married on 13 Nov 1899 in Slivno. This Slivno is presumably the "Slivno (Metković), Dalmatia, Austria now known as Slivno Ravno, Croatia" mentioned on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the only online Slivno Ravno marriage register covers 1908 to 1920. This is a nuisance because the 1899 Croatian marriage register would mention the names of Joseph and Magdalena's parents, namely your g-g-grandparents.
If you're interested in taking this further you can contact the Metković archives and ask how to obtain a copy of Joseph and Magdalena's 1899 marriage certificate. Just send an email from the bottom of the following "Contact Us" page and see where that leads...
State Archives in Dubrovnik
http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php (http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php)
KONTAKT OBRAZAC (CONTACT FORM)
Ime i prezime (Name and surname)
E-mail (E-mail)
Adresa (Address) - not necessary
Grad (City) - not necessary
Država (Country)
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If you do decide to send an email ask if they could also look at the 1906 birth register entry adjacent to Stanislaus. You'd assume his twin is either the previous or following entry.
Stanislaus's birth can be found at...
Year 1906
Volume 6
Page 115
Line 70
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Do you know roughly what time period the Darwin address refers to. If so, maybe ask the Australian board if they can advise. There are some clever people over there...
Australia Fair
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0)
Maybe the Anton BRJLEVICH at the Darwin address is the Antonius BRJELIS mentioned on the birth certificate as a godparent. Maybe not :-)
Regards
Beg
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This is my grandfather's birth certificate
Hi again...
What a superb document. I do like the look of old certificates.
You must have done something to upset the genealogy gods because not only is your grandfather's birth register not online but the marriage register for his parent's 1899 marriage, mentioned on his birth certificate, is also not online. (Does that make sense?)
Stanislaus's birth certificate says that his parents, Joseph and Magdalena, were married on 13 Nov 1899 in Slivno. This Slivno is presumably the "Slivno (Metković), Dalmatia, Austria now known as Slivno Ravno, Croatia" mentioned on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the only online Slivno Ravno marriage register covers 1908 to 1920. This is a nuisance because the 1899 Croatian marriage register would mention the names of Joseph and Magdalena's parents, namely your g-g-grandparents.
If you're interested in taking this further you can contact the Metković archives and ask how to obtain a copy of Joseph and Magdalena's 1899 marriage certificate. Just send an email from the bottom of the following "Contact Us" page and see where that leads...
State Archives in Dubrovnik
http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php (http://www.dad.hr/kontakt.php)
KONTAKT OBRAZAC (CONTACT FORM)
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If you do decide to send an email ask if they could also look at the 1906 birth register entry adjacent to Stanislaus. You'd assume his twin is either the previous or following entry.
Stanislaus's birth can be found at...
Year 1906
Volume 6
Page 115
Line 70
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Do you know roughly what time period the Darwin address refers to. If so, maybe ask the Australian board if they can advise. There are some clever people over there...
Australia Fair
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0)
Maybe the Anton BRJLEVICH at the Darwin address is the Antonius BRJELIS mentioned on the birth certificate as a godparent. Maybe not :-)
Regards
Beg
Thanks! Yes it's an impressive document :)
So I told my mother again about Anton and she said he was a cousin of hers but she doesn't know anything else. That means that Stanislaus possibly had another brother, who was Anton's father. It would be wonderful to find out who this person is.
There is an Anton Brljevic in Facebook. I will try to get in touch with him.
Sorry for hijacking this thread!
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Regarding Ante brljevich in new zealanc I am hiz grandaughter, and would be happy to supply any info wanted.Someone was looking for Anton in Darwin he passed away several years ago.2 of Ante and Katicas children are still alive in New Zealand.
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Hello Judi
i'm grand-grand son of Ante Brljevich's brother :)
I have one picture of them two together in suits.
Their father's name was Ivan and mother Kata.
Can you please send me e-mail on (*)
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Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.
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Hi everyone! It looks that you might be talking about my grandfather Mate Brljević. His father was Ivan and his mother Kata Barbir. He was in New Zealand until the WWI, when he returned to Europe. His brother Ante stayed in NZ, had a son Tony and other children... Mate was born in Momići, but lived later, after the WWI, in Metković and he died there on November 29, 1944. He was married to Stana Grgić, had 2 sons - Filip and Ivan (my father) and a daughter Fila.
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Seems we are talking a bout the same family . I am Ante eldest grandchild
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My father still lives in Metkovic / I think that Tony or/and his family members were visiting there. I am in Los Angeles...
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Tony is my father and visited Croatia in 1987.He still livez in New Zealand and is now 85yrs old, he has one younger brother still alive.I live in Australia.
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Hi everyone! It looks that you might be talking about my grandfather Mate Brljević. His father was Ivan and his mother Kata Barbir. He was in New Zealand until the WWI, when he returned to Europe. His brother Ante stayed in NZ, had a son Tony and other children... Mate was born in Momići, but lived later, after the WWI, in Metković and he died there on November 29, 1944. He was married to Stana Grgić, had 2 sons - Filip and Ivan (my father) and a daughter Fila.
Is Stana Russian ? Someone told me he had a Russian wife ? Do you know her name ?
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Filip Brljevic was my step grandfather. He did have a restaurant in Wellington. He also had a brother in NZ. Some time after the WWII Filip returned to Momici and married my grandmother. She was a widow with 3 sons and she and Filip had one daughter who is still alive. I can send you the names privately if you like.
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Hello Isee,
Welcome to Rootschat...... :)
Before you are able to make contact by personal message you will need to put up two more posts. A smiley :) in each should do the trick.
Minniehaha.
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Hi Isee, and welcome to RootsChat :)
In case Monke, the original poster, isn't receiving notification of replies to this topic I have just sent them a PM advising them of your post.
They were last on this forum in August this year.
I hope you receive a response soon.
Spades
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Isee, welcome to the NZ Board of ROOTSCHAT
On reply #20 & #28 there is mention of probates held at the Auckland Branch of Archives NZ, for Ante; AND Katica BRLJEVICH.
As I am regularly visiting the Auckland branch, I can photograph the probate papers held, should you wish to have copies. From the posts I'm not certain if copies were obtained previously.
The offer is a free offer. My way of contributing, and saying thanks to those who have done look-ups for me, over the years, at their local archive.
Alan.
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I have sent you my emaio adress in message :)
Thank you in advance
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Hello Monke & extended families.
With a bit of luck the link I'm about to post will take you to the "Brljevich" search hits I got from a search of our NZ National records Archive catalogue.
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ItemAdvancedSearch.do;jsessionid=BF278081D5428C8A6F21568D494B1079
Those with a green verticle bar and the AKLD [Auckland] notation, I can request to view when next doing my research at the Auckland branch, of our National Archive. Some have a brown type notation that they have been digitized, and are available to view online at a subscription web site or an LDS family history site etc. Click on the 'record on line' 'order details' & 'more details' and see what instructions and additional info that gives you. [Note the request details box being where the registered guests of the archive, file a request to view the item in the reading room.]
Back track to the search request page, and try for any other spellings of the surname, that you have come across.
Find any more Auckland held files, that interest you, and I can add them to my list. At this time our Moderator provides a similar service, at his pleasure, with the Wellington branch held files.
I have entered the two that I singled out, into my little black research note book, and will look them up, on my next visit to the Auckland branch. Hopefully not too many weeks away. When I have photos of the files I will forward to the email address supplied.
Alan.
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Minniehaha, thanks for the info :)
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Monke, OK I will pm :)
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Hello again.
Eight photos from Katica's file at the Auckland branch of Archives NZ are now on their way. further assistance offered, if requested.
Alan.