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Title: Charles Mooney
Post by: dinkey on Sunday 16 March 14 11:42 GMT (UK)
I am helping a friend with his family history.

His Grandfather Patrick Columbus Mooney was born 1904 Killybegs to Charles & Mariane.

I found the family in 1911 which showed father Charles as follows
1911 census address Killybegs, Donegal age 46 Blacksmith (Roman Catholic)
married 9 years 7 children 3 living

1901 information
1901 census address Fintragh Road, Killybegs, Donegal age 36 Blacksmith Servant (Roman Catholic)

I am trying to find a birth & marriage for Charles. Can anyone help please

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: rathmore on Sunday 16 March 14 12:22 GMT (UK)
http://www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Killybegs.php


your Charles Mooney listed on this.
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dathai on Sunday 16 March 14 13:27 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage
Glenties July Sep 1901
Vol 2 Page 92
Charles Mooney and Mary Anne McHugh.
A Mary Anne McHugh age 21 at Black Lane in 1901 in keeping local but you will have to wait to see cert.
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dinkey on Sunday 16 March 14 13:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for the replies. Particularly for the McHughes information.

Have you any idea where I can look up the birth of Charles to confirm his parents. There seems to be two Charles Mooney births between 1863 and 1868

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dathai on Sunday 16 March 14 13:53 GMT (UK)
The marriage cert if right will give his fathers name.
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dathai on Sunday 16 March 14 14:28 GMT (UK)
Heres two for the pot

Charles son of Charles Mooney and Bridget Friel,Rathmullan ,8th April 1866

Charles son of John Mooney and Rosey Canny,Cardonagh, 29th March 1868.
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: rathmore on Monday 17 March 14 10:55 GMT (UK)
census of ireland 1911

52 Killybeys town, Killybegs, Donegal

Charles Mooney 46, Mariane 32, Charles James 8, Patrick 6, Elizabeth 4
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: rathmore on Monday 17 March 14 11:25 GMT (UK)
http://www.killybegsonline.org


Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dinkey on Monday 17 March 14 14:19 GMT (UK)
Hi rathmore

Thanks for the census records. I had the 1901 & 1911 for Charles. I think Mariane is actually Mary Ann. I could not find a marriage for a Charles & Mariane, but did note the marriae to a Mary Ann McHugh.

Also thanks for the link to Killybegsonline.

I will take a look at that

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: rathmore on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:19 GMT (UK)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal


Killybegs
Charles and Mary Ann Mooney god parents in 1906
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dinkey on Wednesday 19 March 14 07:33 GMT (UK)
rathmore

Thank you for the link. I tried it but it takes me to the Home page and I can't find the entry

Charles and Mary Ann Mooney god parents in 1906.
I presume it is a baptism but whose is it and what page is it on.

sorry to be so dense.

regards
dinkey
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 19 March 14 11:28 GMT (UK)
when you are on the donegal resources site.

come down the page and click on Killybegs Upper, then come down he page to 1911 census and then click on 1911 census of Killybegs town the come down the page till you see France Boyle and Sarah Ward house hold. it is just under that.

you can go down the first page in donegal resources and in basic search type in Mooney of Killybegs
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: dinkey on Wednesday 19 March 14 11:33 GMT (UK)
got it now. Thanks for the instruction.

Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: SReddin on Monday 16 July 18 01:24 BST (UK)
 I've just noticed this query about Charles Mooney, a bit late I know(new to this forum). Did you find what you wanted to know about him? I'm married to one of his descendants (if it's Charles the blacksmith you were researching) and I'm pretty sure we have a copy of his marriage certificate. He moved to Killybegs from near the border area of Derry and Muff. He got married in St. Patrick's RC church, Iskaheen.
I'd be interested in hearing any other information you've come across about this branch of the Mooney family.
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 July 18 07:48 BST (UK)
Just to recap, these are the relevant 1901 and 1911 census entries:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Killybegs/Fintragh_Road/1180708/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Killybegs/Killybegs_Town/491036/

More records have been made freely available online since the start of this topic, for example, here is the marriage of Charles Mooney and Mary Anne McHugh in 1901:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10318/5755804.pdf

And here are the births for the 3 children shown in the 1911 census...
- Charles in 1903:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01869/1727644.pdf
- Patrick in 1904:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01816/1710722.pdf
- Elizabeth in 1906:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01720/1680381.pdf

Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 July 18 08:06 BST (UK)
The previously posted 1911 census return for the couple showed 7 'Children Born' and 3 'Children Living', here are the births for the other 4 (two sets of twins)...
- Catherine and Mary in 1905:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01784/1700701.pdf
- Edward and Thomas in 1908:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01635/1653574.pdf

And the death registrations...
- Catherine in 1905:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05594/4572131.pdf
- Mary in 1907:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05531/4550310.pdf
- Thomas and Edward in 1910:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05428/4517357.pdf

Very sad.
 
Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 July 18 08:12 BST (UK)
Three more sons to the couple...

- Joseph in 1911:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01519/1616535.pdf
- Hugh in 1913:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01431/1586751.pdf
- Michael in 1916:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01336/1551372.pdf

And unfortunately another death, Joseph later in 1911:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05373/4498741.pdf

Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 July 18 08:27 BST (UK)
The 1901 marriage record for Charles Mooney and Mary Anne McHugh indicates that the groom's father was a mason called James Mooney and the marriage and census records suggest a birth year for  Charles of c. 1865-69.  The following baptism of a Charles Mooney for parents James Mooney and Mary McBride on 26 March 1865 in Iskaheen RC parish is a possibility (halfway down right page):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633050#page/13/mode/1up

Here is the relevant civil birth registration, the address given as Lenamore:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03585/2321528.pdf

A James Mooney of Lenamore married a Mary Ann McBride of Doe Castle on 20 May 1864 in Iskaheen RC Church, bachelor James was a labourer, the son of Patrick Mooney who was a mason, spinster Mary Ann was a servant, the daughter of Neil McBride who was a tailor, a John and Mary McCarron were the witnesses.

Title: Re: Charles Mooney
Post by: gaffy on Monday 16 July 18 08:54 BST (UK)
The 1901 marriage record for Charles Mooney and Mary Anne McHugh indicates that the bride's father was a car driver called Charles McHugh and the marriage and 1911 census records suggest a birth year for Mary Anne of c. 1879-80.

As previously mentioned in this topic, a family shown by the 1901 census living in Black Lane,  Killybegs looks promising, here is the link for convenience:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Killybegs/Black_Lane/1180689/
 
Tracing the births of the children shown in the above census return indicates the couple to be Charles McHugh and Mary Gillespie, here is the birth of their daughter Mary Anne at Killybegs in 1876:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03023/2107771.pdf

Here is the marriage of Charles McHugh and Mary Gillespie in 1870:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11401/8186274.pdf