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Morning All,
I am having absolutely no luck whatsoever in locating the above marriage, and would be grateful if anybody might be able to assist please?
The marriage I am searching for is for a Richard and Bella (Isabella/Arabella) Tyrrell, whose maiden name, according to the birth records of two of their children was Headley.
They lived within the Salford area of Manchester, Lancashire, later relocating to Bolton, where they remained until their respective deaths in 1913 and 1918. Richard was born in Hulme, Lancashire in 1844 and the census returns give a fairly consistent year of birth of 1847 for Bella/Isabella/Arabella although I am uncertain of her place of birth.
The 1911 Census states (crossed out) that she was born in 'Gaythorne, Manchester' however, I can find no relevant birth entries or entries within the earlier 1851 and 1861 Census that confirm this.
It also[/b] states that they have been married for 43 years which gives an inferred marriage year of 1868.
Class: RG14; Piece: 23420 [520 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, Lancashire]
This ties in nicely with the timing of the birth of their first child in 1870. Unfortunately, I can find no relevant marriage record at all, having searched all counties.
Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Paul
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1869. Manchester Cathedral
TYRRELL Edward COWAN Isabella. Most odd.
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Hi Pauline,
Yes, I have seen that one, but discounted it as I have (from memory) located them in subsequent census returns...
Paul
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There is a William Tyrell marriage to Eliza Headley in Q4 1868 in Manchester 8d 462
The only marriage I can find with the those surnames
Not correct as William is in the Army
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Q2 1867, Sheffield, 9c, 591
Hedley, Annabella
Tyrell, Richard
STG
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Q2 1867, Sheffield, 9c, 591
Hedley, Annabella
Tyrell, Richard
STG
How on earth did I not see this one????? ???
That has to be it...
For whatever reason, that has not appeared in any of the searches and variations thereof that I have been performing!!!!
Many thanks STG! :)
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Whilst this apears to be THE marriage, and with nothing else coming close in terms of a match (although I'm surprised at the location), The only niggle I have is the variation in 'Bella's' name.
She is down as 'Bella' on all of the relevant census returns, 'Arabella' on two of their children's baptism records and on her 1918 death record, and 'Isabella' on the birth certificate of another child!
Granted, they're all variations on the same name...so am I just being fussy here?? :-\
Paul
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You say "... according to the birth records of two of the children ...
... but then you also say there were three children.
So what does it say for the mother's maiden name on the third certificate? Is that different?
I can't find a birth for an Arabella or Annabella (various spellings) between 1845-1848, but there are umpteen Isabellas to choose from.
STG
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James Tyrell 1869
Mary Tyrell 1875/75
Richard Tyrell 1878/79 MMN = Headley (lancashireBMD)
Charles Tyrell 1881
Walter 1883/84
Arthur 1887/88
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Hi,
Richard and Bella had six children between 1870 and 1887.
I have a copy of the birth certificate of Arthur Tyrrell, who was born in 1887. This atates that the mother was 'Isabella Tyrrell, formerly Headley'
I also the transcription of a further two children; these being:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/Hulme/ststephen/index.html
Baptism: 1 Jan 1871 St Stephen, Hulme, Lancs.
James Terrol - [Child] of Richard Terrol & Annabella
Born: 10 Aug 1870
Abode: 3 Fern Court Hulme
Occupation: Boiler Maker
Baptised by: Richard Adams
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1878, Page 58, Entry 454
Source: LDS Film 2357333
(This address matches the abode of the family the following year in 1871, where she is named simply 'Bella (sic)'.
THen we have the following entry:
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Emma Tyrrell
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Jul 1875
Baptism Place: St. Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire, England
Father: Richard Tyrrell
Mother: Arabella
FHL Film Number: 1786460
Reference ID: item 5 p 143
Finally, there is an entrie for the following Tyrrell birth on the following site with the mother's maiden name stated as being 'Headley':
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878 [http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi]
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TYRRELL Richard Blackburn Blackburn HEADLEY
All of these chiildren can be found living with Richard and Bella.
Having just looked at these births listed as such, it does seem that they moved around a fair bit initially...
Paul
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You beat me to it Pauline! ;D
But, there they are....at least the ones that have been transcribed etc.
Paul
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And another...
Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name: Richard Tyrrell
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1878
Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1879
Parish: Blackburn, Holy Trinity
Father: Richard Tyrrell
Mother: Isabella Tyrrell
Reference Number: Pr 3022/1/2