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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: aspin on Sunday 23 March 14 17:15 GMT (UK)
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I am most interested in Martha Thompson
I have found in Ancestry a Martha Thompson born Spittal
Berwick upon Tweed 1887 daughter of George Thompson and Barbara Richardson Thompson
she is a spinster and has married James Lyall b 1881 son of Robert Lyall and Isabella born Wooler Northumberland in Ashcroft British Columbia Canada
Could this be my Martha
In 1911 my grt uncle George is a widower living with his family
Margaret 25 Martha 23
Christina 21 Isabella 13
Elizabeth 11 And Alexandra Peace 8
Son James 15
all living at No 226, Main Street Spittal
I had the pleasure to meet Peace my grandmothers cousin when I was a little girl
Any help out there as to what happened to Martha and James
Elizabeth
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Hi
she is a spinster and has married James Lyall b 1881 son of Robert Lyall and Isabella born Wooler Northumberland in Ashcroft British Columbia Canada
When did they marry?
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Sorry forgot to add 13.11.1916
Elizabeth
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Just found a Martha Thompson sailing from Glasgow 21.10.1916
But she is showing as a H/Wife sailing on The Cassandra aged 29
No James Lyall on the ship
Elizabeth
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Snap - that's the one I was looking at when I asked the date of marriage. Regardless of her status - I don't think that ship would have got to Canada in time for her to marry on 13/11
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Looks like they moved to California:
Name: Martha Lyall
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: England
Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Household Members:
James Lyall 48
Martha Lyall 42
Robert G Lyall 12
Lillian Lyall 7
Same family in 1940 census too. You should also find a naturalisation petition for James which provides enough information to confirm its the same people.
Also their crossing from Canada to US:
Name: Martha Lyall
Birth: 1888 - England
Departure: Vancouver, British Columbia
Arrival: Aug 1923 - Seattle, Washington
(James & children also)
Julie
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California Death Index shows Martha Lyall - Born Other Country 26 July 1887 and died 21 August 1976 Los Angeles California.
Last Residence 90064 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California.
FIND A GRAVE
Burial: Pierce Brothers Valhalla Memorial Park North Hollywood Los Angeles County California.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yr4/
Martha Lyall Naturalization Index :- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KXQW-RVP
James Lyall Naturalization Index :- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KX32-Y96 (The original naturalization document has a photograph of James )
James Lyall - 1882 - 1953
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yr5/
James Lyall born 22 May 1882 Other Country - died 7 th May 1953 Los Angeles. California.
WW2 Draft
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V4DQ-5V2
1930/40 census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCVD-XVC
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9Z3-P1J
Regards
Sandra
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Son Robert Gordon Lyall - Born 18 Jan 1918 - Died 10 July 2007. Last Residence 93065 Simi Valley, Ventura, California.
Daughter Margaret Lyall - Margaret Lillian Shepek - Born 20 Apr 1922 - Died 19 November 2010 - Last Residence 76262 Roanoke, Denton, Texas. SSN Issued California.
FIND A GRAVE
Burial: Bluebonnet Hills Memorial Park Colleyville Tarrant County Texas.
Obituary :- Star-Telegram on November 22, 2010
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yr6/
Regards
Sandra
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Many Many thanks Sandra and Julie for this information
Its late now but will look into all this tomorrow
Elizabeth
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Hi
Just for the sake of accuracy in your records, shouldn't the heading of your post have been "Should this post be Northumberland or Canada?" given that Spittal is in England? :)
Imber
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That's a thought Imber
Maybe its because I spent a lot of my childhood at Spittal and the address at this time comes under Berwick upon Tweed still have my brother living there .
I have to admit the postings last night just were remarkable to me who knows someone in the USA might pick something up ???and help me further
Thanks again
Elizabeth
PS looking at the photo Margaret look a little like my Nana she was another Martha Thompson cousin to Margaret Lyall nee Thompson
Elizabeth
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Hi,
You're very welcome. Hope it helped fill some gaps.
This was the husband of Margaret Lillian Lyall/Shepek - Lawrence James Shepek.
Born 29 Aug 1916 and died 9 Feb 2002 - Last Residence 76262 Roanoke, Denton, Texas.
SSN issued Kansas Before 1951
Tarrant County,Texas, Probate Index, 1800-2012 - Lawrence James Shepek - File Date 27 Jun 2002 - Probate - Independent Administration.
Message board post - Feb 2013 -
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.shepek/2/mb.ashx
Sandra
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In reply 7 it gives the find a grave entry for Margaret Lyall Shepek - if yuou click on the link - there was a photograph of Margaret and a detailed obituary. Using the names in the obituary and http://www.whitepages.com/ you should be able to locate those family members.
Sandra
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Hi,
I was reading this post and I live in BC and I am from the Borders.
I looked up your 1916 marriage at St Alban's church Ashcroft BC.
James was living at Hanceville, which is west of Williams Lake on Highway 20.
This is quite a long way from Aschcroft. Williams Lake and 100 Mile House
communities would have beeen closer to Lanceville.
He is listed as Baptist but married by an Angican cermony
Martha gave her address as Berwick on Tweed, suggesting she
was newly arrived.
I have a copy of the Marriage Jpg if you would like a copy.
send me a private message with your email address.
Yours Aye,
Angus