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I am looking for help tracing ancestors of my great-grandfather, William Jardine, b1879 in Banbridge. Father James Jardine- possibly a farmer, mother Sarah Marshall. William moved to Rothesay, Isle of Bute around 1900. Siblings were Sarah, Ellen, Jane, John, Margaret and Thomas. John may have continued farming with his father, James according to census. Sarah Marshall died around 1890- I can't find anything about her parentage, or where she was born.
James Jardine/Jarden parents possibly called James and Margaret- all Presbyterians- did they have other children.
Grateful for any help- thank you
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Sarah Marshall died around 1890- I can't find anything about her parentage, or where she was born.
Sarah Marshall married James Jardine in Downshire Road Presbyterian Church, Newry on 25 October 1872, her father's name was Hugh Marshall.
Other children to Sarah Marshall and James Jardine on familysearch include:
Jane 1873 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPBN-DJ2
James 1876 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGX1-RQ8
Griffiths Valuation has a Hugh Marshall in the townland of Aughnacaven in the civil parish of Donaghmore (print date 1864):
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
The following link shows a Sarah Marshall born 1851 as the daughter to father Hugh Marshall and Jane McGaffen in the townland of Tullymurry in the civil parish of Donaghmore:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/donaghmore/donvrbapt1.html
There is nothing else yet to indicate if these references are your Marshalls, just to note for the meantime until you can rule in or out.
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Have a look for Jardines and Marshalls here, with your background knowledge you might just see a lead:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm
Edited to add: Here's someone's tree for the Marshall / McGaffin couple I previously mentioned, can't vouch for the accuracy and mightn't be your Marshalls at all, but just to note:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/r/Annette-Marshall/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0095.html
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Thank you so much- I had struggled to get this info for a long time. I already had some info on the Jardines- was trying to see whether James Jardine had brothers/ sisters and any info on his parents- and what became of them all. So many questions.....
One other thing, I hear there was a summer steamboat from Belfast to Rothesay- during the summer months- anyone else can comment on this? Thanks
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One other thing, I hear there was a summer steamboat from Belfast to Rothesay- during the summer months- anyone else can comment on this? Thanks
Yes, one of the Belfast newspapers of the time (summer of 1900) carries advertisements for excursions to Rothesay, the boat typically left Belfast at 7am and set off on its return from Rothesay at 6pm.
The fare was 3/6 and tickets were availabe from restaurants and shops.
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Thank you again- I think the service was still happening in the 1960's. Amazing knowledge- thank you
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Still searching for details on James Jardine- who were his parents- did he have any siblings? Grateful for any clues
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Looking for any help with a James Jarden/Jardine - County Down - born around 1825-1835?
Married to Margaret (née ?)
They had a son called James Jardine born in 1851 - did they have other children?
Thanks in advance!
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I came from the redirection of your last message. My contribution is As you know in 1863 Griffiths gives a Samuel Jardine in Banbridge. Samuel has a comparatively expensive building valued for tax purposes at 10 Guineas. He has House office yard and garden all within 25 perches
His property is leased from a Wm Friar, and is on the corner of Ervin’s Lane and Scarva Street with map ref 129 34. I couldn’t find Ervine’s lane on the map provided {Library hdqts for SE Library and education board might have large town size]
But Also in Griffiths is a name to be investigated
Alexander Jordan Ballydown map ref 4 who has a house and land 6 acres , house valued at £1pa and a neighbor Robert Friar
going back to the Tithes Applotment records there is a James Jerdon Ballydown townland 1828 see http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/seapatrick-parish.php#.VSewd0uDoYU
Ballydown is a little bit SE of Banbridge I have found the Ballydown Primary school on Google.
The Jardines in the 1901 census are all Church of Ireland or Presbyterian or Episcopalian
The Jordans are all Catholic
Combine that with the spelling Jerdon and I think you will need to search all church records
Ros Davies has an excellent church records guide
There are no entries for the surnames in the street directory for 1861 see http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT_Bpage508.htm#BANBRIDGE and also none in 1880
Good luck , there many more sources for Banbridge
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Hi
I just chanced, rather late in the day, upon this thread, and I wonder if anyone found "Ervin's Lane". I was born and grew up in Bridge St Banbridge in 1950/60s but it doesn't ring any bells. Among my late fathers documents are 6 inch to the mile OS maps of the town (original survey date 1860, and latest note says revised 1903-1918)
Between Jinglers Bridge and Edenderry Rd the only turn offs on the left are Commercial Rd and Meeting House Rd. On the right are the two connections to Victoria St (not named on map and my memory is blank). There is another little street opposite the Manse and finally a little lane leading to the School at Junction with Reilly St which I suspect is the most likely candidate. Not sure if copyright issues allow posting of old OS map detail here ?
Matt
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in 1863 Ervins Lane intersects Scarva St, between no 33 Wm Mccormack’s and 34 Samuel Jardines
on page 40 of the printed version of Griffiths valuation , Ervins Lane is detailed with 7 entries listed see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation
however only two of the properties are houses
1. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge John and James Morton LdLD Downshire Bld ground waste
2. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge William Nelson LdLD Thomas Ervin house £1 fifteen shillings pa
3. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge Patrick McGivern LdLD Thomas Ervin house £1 fifteen shillings pa £1 fifteen shillings pa
4. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge James Hutchison LdLD Downshire garden £1 five shillings pa
5. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge Bernard Rooney LdLD Downshire garden five shillings pa
6. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge James Quail LdLD Moses Woodse garden £1 five shillings pa
7. Ervin’s Lane, Banbridge James Hutchison LdLD Downshire garden fifteen shillings pa
for further history look up PRONI Valuation Revision Books PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/16/6A (1864 - 1874) -
VAL/12/B/16/6H (1915 - 1929) its online
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Can't be sure which one it is even on this scale and a phone photo exceeds the max attachment size . I note you have an interest in Graceys worldwide. My Physics master at Banbridge Academy was Ivan Gracey, who lived in Dollingstown near Lurgan but moved to Cascum Rd in Banbridge. He is/was a well known Radio Amateur.
The Matthew Davidson, 53 Bridge St on the on line valuation records is my maternal grandfather after whom I am named
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I have some Presby records of Jardines who move between Lurgan, Corcreany, and Lurganterry. James and Alexanders are common. There isn't all that much detail. Alex m. Isabelle/Jane Livingston had Alex, James L., Alex, and Bess. 1830-1836. Samuel m. Ann Irwin had David and George 1825, James had Wm 1826 and might be the James m. Jane Valentine and having David about 1825. Samuel m. Jane Liggett had Livingston 1834. These early ones are at Lurgan 1st, but they seem to have switched churches with only on Jardine mention in the 1850's. Lurgan 2nd may be where they are at as some of those from a Livingston are there in 1870's living at Tegnavin. Some have become Jordons in the records.
If you can match known children's names, I can list more details and more Jardines.