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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Karytay on Thursday 27 March 14 19:00 GMT (UK)
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Can any one tell me the make and year of these cars.
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The bottom one looks like a Morris 8. I will ask my husband tonight about the top one, as he is a member of the vintage car club ;)
Suzy W
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The bottom one has an "A" (rotated, italic) in the nave plate in the wheel hub. That makes me feel it is an Austin, probably a Seven.
The upper one has a curious registration plate - non UK. It is a car of American origin though it may have been assembled in Australia or South Africa if that is close to where the picture was taken.
Alan
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the top one is a problem, has the look of a Ford v8 pilot of late 1930,s but as alanmack says not a british car ( no sidelights would make it illegal in UK), I also think maybe Australia or british Africa.
I think the second one is maybe an Austin 10, new in 1932-35, but many survived in the uk until the early 1960s, so not a great help in dating the photo.
mike
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My guess, top, still wondering
bottom, Austin_4 Dorras.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yp4/
Regards
Malky
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Good afternoon,
The bottom one is an Austin 7 box saloon. I also thought of a pilot for the top one but not used in Britain. As pointed out it has no sidelights.
John915
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It could well be a 7 but the front bumper is a double row of chrome bars, I can only find this on a 10, but it does look a little small to be a 10.
If dad is taking the photo it will be a tight squeeze in the back, three children and a dog. ;D ;D ;D
mike
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And again,
The no plate at the top could be british but it wouldn't fit with the car. That series of plates was issued in Nottinghamshire between apr 1924 and may 1929. The car though is at least 20 years later than that.
John915
PS the 7s also had twin chrome bumpers but the style does depend on year and model. The front end of the 10s looks almost identical but you would see more car behind the children as it was a bit longer than that.
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but you would see more car behind the children as it was a bit longer than that.
I agree :) :) :) :)
mike
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O.K I got the bottom one wrong, hubby said it could be a Austin 10 and it is bigger than a Austin 7.
Top one is a Buick, not sure of model or year, mid to late 1940's?
Suzy W
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Oh! ;D thanks, first I should of told you the photo's were taken in South Africa. The second photo was taken about 1939-1940, this is a guess
The first photo taken around 1945-1948, another guess
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I am doubtful of the claim that it is a Buick. What year of Buick do you claim that it is.
I am also doubtful of the claim that this car is "at least 20 years after" the 1924-1929 period for which those would be valid Nottinghamshire plates.
The styling of the car is more like 1937-1940. You won't see headlamps like that on any postwar US or US derived car. It also appears to have "suicide doors".
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A guess
A Hudson Terraplane?
Crowsfeet
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The most similar looking car that I can find, is a 1937 Pontiac.
It looks like two small panels have been put over the top of the radiator grille, which curiously look more like the radiator shape of a 1940 Pontiac. It is missing some the pontiac detailing. In South Africa, it is possibly an Australian-bodied Pontiac. Also, the arrow log on the right wing looks like a Pontiac logo. That's my best guess.
It could also be a 38 or 39 Pontiac, which had very similar body. In 1940 and 1941 they were quite different, although the 1940 has a radiator shape reminiscent of this one.
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Hubby says top one is an American car, a Hudson 112 c1939 and bottom one is an Austin 10
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The top image is indeed a Hudson 112. Pic attached for comparison.
Keith
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It does looks quite similar. I'd point out that the photo of the Hudson is a 2-door car. The Pontiac mentioned is a four-door car, which is what the south african car is.
Also, while the shape is similar, the front-end styling is not.
Another poster before mentioned Buick, but all of the 4-door Buicks in the 1937-1939 period are quite a lot bigger, and the 40 and 41 Buicks have a quite different body shell entirely.
There are literally thousands of car photos online, and none look quite like this one. Which is why I have suggested that it is an Australian-bodies GM car, of which more than 30,000 a year were being produced in the late 1930's.
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The Hudson also has no bumper over-riders, a very visible bonnet/hood handle, and a total of only two windows in the side of the car, where the car depicted in south africa has three.
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http://bestartcarz.com/photo/im/hudson-112/10/default.htm
Here is a 4-door Hudson, which seems to have the same radiator surround treatment and also the "Pontiac logo" arrow at the bottom of the front fender, so yeah, that would now be the most similar. I agree.
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Scrutiny of the photos seems to make it apparent that it is a 1939 model.
The 37 hudsons all have a long narrow grille that goes right back into the top of the hood.
The 38 hudsons have a grille which is straight at the top and not such a fine spacing on the horizontal elements.
In 39, for some models, the headlight are much lower and mounted in the fender. But some models keep the older style headlights and have the curved top edge to the radiator as shown.
For 40, the entire front end looks completely different.
So I think it is a 1939.
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Furthermore, according to wikipedia, "Hudson cars were assembled from complete knock down (CKD) kits in South Africa by Stanley Motors in Natalspruit (Gauteng)."
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And in this document here
http://hetclub.org/burr/manuals/1939_hudson_group_parts_book.pdf
at page 83, a clear diagram of the two very different front-end treatments of the 1939 Hudson models.
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Wow! what a discussion over two cars, lol I stayed out of it for I have no clue about old cars. Thanks for all your suggestions.