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Title: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: litherland lass on Friday 28 March 14 12:54 GMT (UK)
My nan's brother James Norman Baines moved from Liverpool to London around 1911.
My nan always talked about him being high up within Dewhursts. I note that the Vestey brothers took
Dewhurst's over.
Any suggestions /ideas how I could find out what position with in the organisation he had?
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 28 March 14 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

goggling J H Dewhurst brings up loads of stuff eg this

http://paintedsignsandmosaics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/dewhurst-forest-hill.html

I don't know whether that type of record, if it does survive, would be in the public domain.

As the company originated in Southport, ypou could try archives in that area to see if they can help or point you in another direction.

Dawn
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Friday 28 March 14 13:44 GMT (UK)
Or perhaps from an obituary in the local paper when he died?

STG
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 28 March 14 13:45 GMT (UK)
you could also google Norman Finnimore butchery historian
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: litherland lass on Friday 28 March 14 13:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dawn and Smalltowngirl for your assistance.
Will do.
Pauline

Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Friday 28 March 14 14:26 GMT (UK)
There's a site for Southport family history online that may well be useful - I think I got there via "North Meols Family History Society" and they have a free forum online that, whilst not wildly active, has very good, well-informed members who do seem to check that any information they give, or sources that they suggest, are accurate. I'd give them a try.
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: litherland lass on Friday 28 March 14 14:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Threlfallyorky.
I actually live in Southport, so should be able to find out.
Litherland Lass.
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: saltpot on Monday 19 May 14 05:24 BST (UK)
I asked ex management & there was a Mr Baines in Head Office, Dewhurst the Vestey co have been gone nearly 20 years, The gent who i asked is in his 80,s so memory fading,
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: litherland lass on Monday 19 May 14 10:00 BST (UK)
Thank you Saltpot.
I think he was high up in the company. He use to help his sister out (my nan) with money. I think he help my nan finance her to buy her home as her husband died in 1932, leaving my nan to bring up 3 children. My nan when a teenager had to give up her job to act as mum to her siblings when her parents died. I think Norman always appreciated what she did for him and her siblings and hence he sent her money.
I need to research more on Norman. I know when he married / died and need to look into his wife's side and children. Time consuming but interesting. Am still working on my Welsh grandfathers side and will be back to North Wales to follow up leads.
Kind regards
Pauline.
( Litherland Lass)
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: saltpot on Friday 07 August 15 17:46 BST (UK)
Just spotted this Litherland Lass, If your relative came to London in 1911 it was for Vestey or one of the co,s he took over, J H Dewhurst was not acquired until 1923 & only 2 shops & a market stall,
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: litherland lass on Friday 07 August 15 17:57 BST (UK)
Hi Saltpot,
Thank you for this info. I can now check with his marriage lines.
If you come across anymore info no matter how small please feel free to pass on.
I haven't had much success with my nan's siblings. But am sure something will turn up one day.
Regards
Litherland Lass.
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: saltpot on Monday 29 August 16 20:29 BST (UK)
Scouring the internet Litherland lass i came across my roots chat post re Norman (james) Baines,
At the time i could do no more at the time,
Since then the 1939 register has been released & Norman (James) Baines 1887 is living in East Barnet Hertfordshire, with Margaret 1893 & Pauline 1921

Moderator comment: edited for content, certain 1939 details removed
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: JJen on Monday 29 August 16 21:02 BST (UK)
Possible probate record for James Norman Baines in 1976 -

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=baines&yearOfDeath=1976&page=3#calendar

JJ
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: mgeneas on Sunday 11 September 16 20:10 BST (UK)
His occupation should be on his death certificate and the birth certificates of all his children if any
Title: Re: Dewhurst the butchers and Vestey brothers around 1911.
Post by: Norman Finnimore on Sunday 12 November 17 00:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Litherland lass, Stumbled on my/your post re Norman (james) Baines, Occupation, Company Director of a meat export company in 1939,