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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Sheila Walker on Monday 07 April 14 12:20 BST (UK)
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Hello, my name is Sheila W (nee Roxborough). amy father James Roxborough youngest of 15 children born to Ellen Bradley. Ellen a catholic was employed as a servant/domestic by my widowed grandfather William Roxborough on 1911 census had 2 children by him. Another child of Williams from his previous marriage to Elizabeth Roxborough nee McCahon (died 1906 aged 33 yrs) was Sarah Roxborough. Sarah was Presbyterian like my grandfather.
The 2 other children Ellen and Annie, born out of wedlock to Ellen and William were listed as Roman Catholic, surname Bradley. Almost every year they had another child surnamed Bradley until 1920 when they married and had more, Ernest Roxborough Presbyterian and my father James Roxborough a Presbyterian, born 1923. When he was born his father William was 81 years old, William was 50 years older than Ellen. He was actually 33 years older than Elizabeth his 2nd wife who was born in 1873. William died in 1926 at age 84, my father was only 3 yrs old, his mother Ellen died at age 49 in 1939. They are both buried in Aghadowey Parish Church cemetery.
After Annie and Ellen their first 2 daughters together were born they then had William who was born in 1910 and only died in 2005 aged 95 years. He lived in the same place all his life where my father James was born also on Ardreagh Road, a long whitestone building also occupied by Doherty family for many years. William and Ellens other children were Richard aka Dick, Matt who had a farm at the Island, Nelly, Ethel, Emily, Sadie, Ann, Jane, Lily and Evelyn. I met them all except Sadie, Annie (not to be confused with Ann) young Ellen and their half sister Sarah who was only 18 months when mother Elizabeth died. William my GF apparently had a first wife he went to America with but she stayed there (not sure about any children or names), he returned to NI. Apparently a Roxborough became a Rough Rider in Theodore Roosevelt campaign with Spanish/Cuba in late 19th century. Who he belonged to not sure but would like to know.
The Simpson sisters who lived not far from my Dad were very fond of him, we used to visit them when we went over the there, also the Jamiesons. My Dad as a young lad worked at Aghadowey Creamery. My Dad left Aghadowey when he was 18 years with his brother Ernest (aka Ernie who had a glass eye as Ellen their mother got kicked in the field by a horse or cow when pregnant with him and caused his eye to come out in utero). Dick went to England, Ann, Lily, Ethel, Nelly, Emily. Jane married Jim Riley and they had a mushroom farm in NI. Most Aghadowey people would have known my Uncle Willy, died at 95, he would have been an icon in the community. He never married like some of the other siblings.
If anyone there can help me with anything at all I would be so grateful. I live in Queensland Australia and returning to Aghadowey next year with my brother from the UK, we hope to put any missing pieces together with what we already have. Matt had our 2 boy cousins, I remember them well and if it were at all possible to meet up with them one day that would be great. I was last in Aghadowey in mid 60's and it is a place always in my heart. If anyone can shed any light on our GD William born 1840 and the name of his first wife that would be good too. Hoping to hear from someone real soon. It was a great guy called Elwyn Soutter who put me onto this site, he has been a legend in helping me so far. Thanks to anyone who can help with whatever information you may have. Cheers, Sheila.
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Hi Shiela,
I have a Jane Roxborough Aghadowey who married my Great Great Grandfather James Forgrave/Forgrive Aghadowey. I have this information from family. I know my great grandfather was born 1866 but I am unable to find any marriage for James and Jane around this date. Can only find one for 1854 which would leave 12 years before their 6 children were born. so cant prove if this is it. Can only guess she may have been born late 1840's. My grandfather Samuel Forgrave was a foreman in Upperlands mill in the early 1900's.
Do you have any 'Janes' around this date.
Sandra
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Sandra,
Your 1854 marriage in Coleraine Civil Registrars Office is probably correct.
The registration of births in Ireland did not start until 1864 so the couple probably had other children before this date.
Regards
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Thanks Kingskerswell, never thought of that !! That means I may find others before 1866 :D. Sandra
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Hi again Shiela, I have looked through notes again, Jane's father was John Roxborough born about 1815.
I know this doesn't help you with William.
Sorry
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A big hello to anyone out there connected to or interested in the Roxborough family. If anyone connected to or interested in William ROXBOROUGH b 1810 d 1904 married to Mary TORRANCE had James, John, Jennie ? Jane, William my grandfather, Mary Ann, Richard, a daughter born 1852 and Samuel
William my grandfather went to Allentown, Pennsylvania 1868/9 with wife number 1, Mary Ann KNIGHT who had Martha m William Kelly USA, Mary Ann m Albert Wentzel USA, child buried 6/8/1873, Anna (Annie) m Joseph Cramsey and Jane who married Torrens KNIGHT
William my grandfather returned to N Ireland approx 1893/4 married wife number 2 Elizabeth McCAUGHERN who had Rachel died 1901, Annie died 1904, sister Sarah 1904 (? twin of Annie probably although possible to have 2 children 9 months apart as it happened again with Ellen!) raised by her mother's brother and sister near Rasharkin. Mother Elizabeth died of birth complications 1906.
William my grandfather had several children with Ellen BRADLEY his housekeeper, starting with first in 1907. I have all their names reconfirmed and slightly revised from my previous advertised information. William and Ellen married in June 1920, had 2 more children including my Dad, James (Jim) Roxborough. As a child I met nearly all of my uncles and aunties. William died 1924/5/6 can confirm which, my father born 1922 was 3 at time. Ellen ROXBOROUGH died Feb 1939 aged 49 years from heart complications.
I now have all names of just about everybody including my great grandfathers other childrens childrens names and who they married. I have all that came after William and Ellen so if anyone wants assistance to put their connections together I am happy to email you what I have as a download, I have gained a lot more information since first joined this site and been able to add to the information I received. I am still expecting more to come from another source. A big huge thankyou again to Elwyn for his initial help to make this all possible for me, I am elated, I know who I am now!!! I even know about the Rough Rider cousin I have!!!! my email is (*) Cheers, Sheila.
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Hello Sheila,
Do you have any knowledge of a James Woods and Nancy (nee Rosborough) who lived at Coolhill c. 1836, or their son John who married a Mary Dempsey d.o. John Dempsey and Peggy (nee McArthur) of Cooliman? The marriage of John and Mary Woods was at the Kilrea 1str Presbyterian Church c. 1836. Thanks. Regards - Dinny.
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Sheila. I am researching my wife’s family who is a Forgrave from Aghadowey, Her maternal grandfather is Joseph Forgrave born 1885 to an Elizabeth Forgrave but we cannot find any info on an Elizabeth Forgrave alive in the 1800s and was wondering if you had found any Elizabeth Forgrave’s in your research.
Regards
Garrett
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Welcome to Rootschat, Garrett :)
Joseph Forgrave born 1885 Moneycarrie & died May 1937.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02628/1969720.pdf
Joseph was baptised 13 June 1886 at St. Guaire's Parish Church, Aghadowey.
In 1911 he was working as a farm labourer for Sam Perry-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Aghadowney/Ballywillin/651844/
Ten years earlier he's in uncle James Forgrave's household- note James' mother Jane also in household-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dunminning/Killycowan/940157/
James Forgrave, son of James, married (1898 Aghadowey Presbyterian Church) Elizabeth Stewart of Keely. Note that the two witnesses were Blakes (Joseph's aunt Rebecca Weir Forgrave later married John Blake).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10433/5798760.pdf
Joseph's mother, Elizabeth Forgrave, was a servant at Ballygawley at one time. She was the daughter of James Forgrave & Jane Roxborough (married 1854 & had large family).
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Thanks for the information. How do you know about the information re Elizabeth Forgrave as I could not definitively tie her down. You don’t give a reference for the info you give for Elizabeth in 1854
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It's Elizabeth's parents who were married in 1854 (27 Feb.).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGVD-KGGF (transcribed as Forgrine)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXN-5QF (transcribed as Forgrive)
Irish Genealogy have it as Forgrive. Not online yet but you can view marriage on PRONI's website (register & purchase a few credits).
Elizabeth's death lists her as born c1865 but I suspect she might have been a little bit older. In any case, she was born before start of civil registration (1864).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JF54-12H
Joseph's birth & baptism list his mother as Elizabeth Forgrave. Her death certificate lists parents as James Forgrave & Jane Roxborough.
In 1901 he's staying with uncle James Forgrave who is the son of James Forgrave & Elizabeth Roxborough. Grandmother Jane also in household.
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Hello,
I am looking back at my family history and came across this thread.
My nan was Jeannie Roxborough who married Jim... My dad is also Jim!
I only visited my family in Ireland a few times when I was younger but I certainly will never forget Uncle Willy!!! What a character!
Can I just confirm that Jeannie's mother please? As I am a little confused.
Many thanks x
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Can you give us some dates and places for your grandmother, please?
This will enable us to assist you.
KG
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The 1854 marriage of Jane Roxborrough & James Forgrive is now on-line.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09467/5430693.pdf
Both are living in Killeague townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/killeague/
KG
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Welcome to Rootschat, Kerrie :) Willie Rocky was certainly a colourful local character!
Your grandmother Jane (known as Jeannie) was born 19 July 1917 & her father's 16th child (she also had 4 younger siblings) by his 3rd wife. Your grandparents & their two children lived in Ardreagh until at least 1949.
The 1854 marriage of Jane Roxborrough & James Forgrive is now on-line.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09467/5430693.pdf
Both are living in Killeague townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/killeague/
KG
Wrong family :-\
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Here's the correct birth for 'Jeannie' Roxborough-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01291/1534707.pdf
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Thank you so much, it was wonderful to see my nans birth certificate!
My grandmother married James Reilly and they had 3 children not 2, Richard (known as Alan) - who moved to Canada, Mary (known as May) who lived in Coleraine her whole life and married Ronnie Stirling, and my dad, also (*) who is currently living in Bedfordshire, as am I.
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Me again!!
I was lucky enough to meet my nan but not my Grandad, he died the year before I was born - (*) 1981.
Was wondering if there is a marriage certificate for them, if any one knew him personally or if there is any information on the Reilly family.
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The Reillys weren't from Aghadowey so I don't have any details about them. Not sure when they married but were in Ardreagh 1939. The 1949 Electoral Roll only lists 2 children with the parents.
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Thank you so much for your help. I now have such a great deal of information on my nans side. I never realised the Reilly family were not from Aghadowey but will continue my search.
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Just to correct a few details posted earlier in this thread-
Reply #5 William my grandfather went to Allentown, Pennsylvania 1868/9 with wife number 1, Mary Ann KNIGHT who had Martha m William Kelly USA, Mary Ann m Albert Wentzel USA, child buried 6/8/1873, Anna (Annie) m Joseph Cramsey and Jane who married Torrens KNIGHT
William Roxborough m.(1868) Mary Ann Knight (d.1898 Bellury)- children:
1. Martha Jane Roxberry (1869 Allentown-1948) m.(1889 Moneydig) James Beattie. They had a son a few months later who only lived a few hours. She returned to Allentown, Penn. Had a son called William Kelly but no sign of child’s father & she was known as Martha Roxberry.
2. Mary Ann Roxberry (1871 Penn.) m.(7 Mar.1906) Albert Wentzel
3. child (buried 1873 Allentown)
4. Agnes/Nancy/Anna/Annie Roxberry (c1875 Allentown-1950) m.(1893 Ballymena) Robert Wasson. They had 4 children- he (widower) & 2 daughters in 1911 census, eldest son died young, 4th children William Wasson born 22 July 1902 Bellury. Son William was raised by Knight family & went to U.S. 1923 where he was known as William Joseph Roxborough. Agnes/etc. went back to Allentown & was supposed to have married Joseph Cramsey.
5. Jane Roxborough (c1877 Allentown-1939)- she & Torrens Knight had 7 children
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Reply #5 William my grandfather returned to N Ireland approx 1893/4 married wife number 2 Elizabeth McCAUGHERN who had Rachel died 1901, Annie died 1904, sister Sarah 1904 (? twin of Annie probably although possible to have 2 children 9 months apart as it happened again with Ellen!) raised by her mother's brother and sister near Rasharkin. Mother Elizabeth died of birth complications 1906.
William Roxborough bought a farm at Bellury c1885 where his first wife died in 1898.
Rachel born 1901 was not William's daughter-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01958/1755639.pdf
Annie born 1904 was Rachel's sister but their father was a different William Roxborough-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01809/1708678.pdf
Daughter Sarah born 1904 Bellury- in 1911 Sarah is living with her father at Seygorry-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01809/1708679.pdf
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The William Roxborough the father of the Rachael 23/3/1901 and Annie Elizabeth 29/9/1904 found by Aghadowey is a blacksmith of Caheny and the mother is Catherine Dempsey Roxborough. This may explain the births 9 months apart, they were to different parents rather than being 'Irish twins' as my Irish family called them!
NB the spelling (on this document) of the ms of the wife of Wiiliam Roxborough farmer of Ballury, Elizabeth Roxborough and that is McCahon. This is another spelling to add to the list when searching!
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Hi everyone,
I'm a descendant of Richard Roxborough and Mary Peden of Bovagh and researching the Roxborough families from Aghadowey.
Can anyone help me with the following.
are there any surviving documents for Aghadowey Prespetyrian Church around the 1820s and 1830s? such as named payers of fees for church stalls? Or congregation lists? I am trying to establish which church they were a member of at this time.
Also more specifically I'm interested in finding out more about a William Roxborough who Marries Mary Torrance c.1830's. Where and when were they married? names of fathers, witnesses, places etc.
Any help gratefully received
Ady
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Some Roxboroughs here in Bovagh.
1901 census for Co Londonderry.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s7z/
1911 census
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s80/
Bovagh townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/bovagh/bovagh/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4792204#map=13/55.0240/-6.6198
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
Pre-1840 there really aren't any useful records for Aghadowey Presbyterian Church. Baptisms don't start until 1855 and there are no burial records (except a later map of the graveyard and notes done in 1950s with the old church sexton). The early communicants rolls have long disappeared. The first Stipend List (showing pew holders) is 1832/1835 (a Richard Roxborough in pew number 141 along with William Roxborough, Jasper Roxborough and John McNeal & Danl McNeal- these Roxboroughs were from Ballynacally Beg). Note: pew numbers are the old ones not the current numbers as the church was renovated before WWI and pews, aisles, gallery, etc. changed. The 1836/1839 list is the same. Next list 1840/1844 shows on William Rosborough, Daniel McNeal and Jasper Rosborough.
Regarding Richard Roxborough and Mary Pedan the marriage supposed to be 1828. Mary died in 1890 and Richard in 1901.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06108/4743664.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05740/4620517.pdf (informant- grdau. Lizzie Roxborough, Bovagh)
I know of five children: James (went to Liverpool, England), John, William, Rachel Brown, Anne.
Pre-registration of marriages (1845) there will be limited details in church records (if such records survive)- usually just date, bride & groom and perhaps name of minister and two witnesses. The marriages for Aghadowey Presbyterian Church only start in 1845.
William Roxborough and Mary Torrance probably married early 1840s as oldest known child born c1841 at Caheny. Known children: James, John, William, Jennie, Mary Ann, Richard, daughter, Samuel. Many of this family emigrated to Allentown, Pennsylvania although some did return to Ireland.
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Hi again, and a big thank you to both of you for your replies !
I am from the Liverpool line (James).
My current interest is as follows - In 1831 John Roxborough is listed as farming at Bovagh. I am thinking that this is Richards father. That Richard takes up the farm at Bovagh sometime before the griffith Evaluation in 1853.
Richard marries Mary Peden Oct 1829 (Garvagh, presumably her Parish Church, not his) and presumably sets up a family home somewhere locally at this time. So it is reasonable that he his not listed at Bovagh. In 1831 there is only one Richard Roxborough, listed at living at Mullahinch, not Ballanacally Mere (im assuming Ballynacally Beg). But i am also looking at a possible connection between William Roxboroughs family at Caheny. This is because I think he might have been Richard's brother (maybe the Richard and William you found in the stipend list are these brothers). I saw something online that a younger James Roxborough (married a different younger Elisabeth Callaghan) who followed my side of the families move to Greenock (before we moved onto Liverpool). This younger James' father is a William from Caheny.
Would you know if there are any Peden families in the stipend lists for Aghadowey ? Mary Peden does not seem to be listed in the Mayoghill congregation at Garvagh.
Also I think the Roxboroughs were using St Guaires as well. Are there any records from the 1820's and 1830's of use there ?
Many thanks
Ady
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Just to clear up a bit of confusion-
Ballynacally More and Ballynacally Beg are separate townlands.
Early records for St. Guaire's (Church of Ireland) were sent to Dublin for safekeeping and destroyed in fire at Four Courts. Presbyterians were also buried there but not always recorded in the burial register and many of their old headstones were destroyed.
Mary Peden does not seem to be listed in the Mayoghill congregation at Garvagh.
Possibly you mean in the townland of Mayoughill in the Visitation Lists for 1st Garvagh Presbyterian Church?
Would you know if there are any Peden families in the stipend lists for Aghadowey ?
Yes but's late here so will hopefully post more tomorrow if I can.
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Thank you once again,
I made a mistake in my last message yesterday. I found these families in the 1831 census (on a geneology website) and there is a Richard and William living at Ballanacally XXX ....but am not sure if my townlands are correct. I think i mixed Beg with More in my struggle with the different spellings?
This is what I have
James Roxborough BallyCaion Townland, House 11, 2 male 6 females
Joshua (or Jason or Jasper?) Roxborough Ballanacally Mere Townland, House 31, 1 male 4 females
William Roxborough Ballanacally Mere Townland, House 39, 2 males 4 females
1831 – Census – Joseph Roxborough, Ballynacally More
1831 – Census – Richard Roxborough, Ballycally Morw
1832 – Census - James Rossborough, Ballycahan
Peden - Yes I meant the townland of Mayoughill in the visitation lists at the first Garvagh Pres.
It would be great to connect Mary Peden to her correct family if at all possible ! All help very much appreciated. Reply when you get the time.
Best regards
Ady
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Quick reply before I check the Stipend Lists and some other records.
The 1831 census for County Londonderry is online here- just select 1831:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Note: for some reason the site duplicates each entry making it look like there were more household.
Ballynacally Mere is a mis-transcription of Ballynacally More (click on link for image to see original page). There was a Jasper Roxborough but not a Joseph.
This is a useful site for locating townlands-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/bovagh/bovagh/
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/aghadowney/ballynacally-beg/
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/aghadowney/ballynacally-more/
You can scroll down a bit to 'borders' and see marching townlands.
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James Roxborough BallyCaion Townland, House 11, 2 male 6 females
It's official name was Ballycaghan townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/drumcroon/ballycaghan/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4800938#map=12/55.0593/-6.6821
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No such thing as one 'official' spelling- Ballycann, Ballycahan, etc. are all acceptable variations.
More records from Aghadowey Presbyterian Church-
Stipend Lists (note: only go up to 1850/1854)
1835/1839- pew 135 R[ober]t. Peden (but not earlier)
1840/1844- pew 135 Robt. Pedan; pew 154 John Pedan
1845/1849- pew 112 H. Pedan; pew 135 Robert Pedan, Richard Roxborough; pew 154 John Pedan
1850/1854- pew 135 Robert Pedan, Richd. Roxborough, Richard Roxborough; pew 154 John Pedan
1852/1855? Names of Subscribers for paying off a debt of borrowed money expended in building Aghadowey Meetinghouse- James Pedan (no Roxboroughs listed)
1 Jan.1863 Names of those who have paid their assessment (with pew numbers listed)-
Widow Pedan pew 113; John Pedan pew 154; Johnny Roxborough pew 98; John Roxborough pew 65
Should have more in downstairs office but we moved two large bookcase yesterday and still re-shelving so things are a bit through other here :-\
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Thank you both !
I have rechecked the 1831 Census and found that the family group at Ballanacally More are not the folks im looking for. This is because the Richard living there seems to be an older generation and the father not the brother.
The only Richard left in the 1831 Census is from Mullahinch, which is two miles or less to John Roxborough in Bovagh. There is only 1 male and three females in this Richards family. Which I think fits a marriage of a young couple from 1829, having 2 babies since then. But I dont know if this is good logic or not !
The Stipend Lists are also great (big thanks again)
1845/1849 pew 135 Robert Pedan and Richard Roxborough , i think must be related
then. Did brothers in law share pews?
1850/1854 pew 135 Robert Pedan, Richard Roxborough and Richard Roxborough also works as the second Richard could be aged around 21 (the first born children are currently missing from my tree, so this could be a missing Richard jnr?)
Please let me know if you find anything else !
Thanks
Ady
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Hi,
Could anyone help me with the following. I'm interested in finding out more about John Roxborough who is living in house 40 in Bovagh in the 1831 census. Are there surviving documents between 1831 and the Griffith evaluation that might tell me more?
Also, Richard Roxborough is the only Roxborough listed at Bovagh in the Griffin evaluation, 1858. Farming plot 14a.
Is it possible to figure out if house 40 is the same as plot 14a ?
any comments much appreciated
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Hi, i wonder if anyone can help me with a big puzzle. I have always thought there was only one Richard Roxborough renting at Bovagh (thought to have been born around 1806 - marries Mary Peden in 1829 then dies in 1901 at the ripe old age of 95??) could there have been two ?
1850/1854- pew 135 Robert Pedan, Richd. Roxborough, Richard Roxborough;
Are there two real Richard Roxboroughs sitting in pew 135 ? or is it a clerical thing? If they are real are they likely father and son ? what age would someone be to have their name recorded on a pew?
Any thoughts very welcome!
Ady
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Two separate Richard Roxboroughs in pew 135. No way to tell if father/son, etc. and just because they are in the same pew doesn't mean then were both living in Bovagh or closely related to each other. The person listed would have been head of household but no set age requirement.
Since civil registration of deaths didn't start until 1864 one of those Richards could have died or left the area before 1864. I can say that it is not the Richard Roxborough from Aghadowey who left Coleraine Workhouse for Quebec c1846.
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Thanks a lot for this info ...two Richard Roxboroughs sitting on a bench becomes quite a puzzle.
There appears to be two death options for Richard Roxborough (wife Mary Peden, farming at Bovagh). The first is the 1901 death which would place him at a very old age of 95. The second date is from Janell's page*. That he dies circa 1895. This is from a letter from a relative dated 1954. I assume the 1901 death is correct though? Where would I most likely find any earlier Richard death records in the area?
*From another Roots chat (Roxboroughs in Bovagh) janell Lockes link - http://janell.locke.tripod.com/Doherty/pafg02.htm#78
Also would there be such things as wills or tenant farm contracts that could be searched? To establish when John Roxborough mentioned in 1831 gave up farming in Bovagh and or Richard Roxborough took up a farm at Bovagh? It was part of Waterfords estate i seem to remember?
as always any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ady
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Richard Roxborough of Bovagh died 1901 & granddaughter Lizzie was the informant. Wife Mary (Peden) was about 80 when she died. Here's the death registration-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05740/4620517.pdf
Janell's page says born c1818 and died about 1895 which does not fit with any Aghadowey records.
The only other Richard Roxb* death in Coleraine registration district is his son Richard who died in 1876- he was only 28 so born 1848 and two young to appear in stipend list (1850/1854)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1876/020589/7223983.pdf
Widening the search to all of Ireland those two are still the only deaths in all of Ireland between 1864-1921.
I can list all the Richard Roxborough's I've found but civil registration of deaths didn't start until 1864.
Griffith's Valuation is the next place to check after 1831 Census and from that date (1859) until almost 1930 the Valuation Revision Books are online (PRONI).
Only Roxborough, Bovagh Will is this one- Roxborough William of Bovagh county Londonderry farmer died 24 October 1930 Probate Belfast 14 June to Robert Kennedy farmer. Effects £32.
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Thanks again ! that's a lot of digging, im really grateful. You have managed to identify one of the missing children !!
I now have the following family tree (there are a couple of tentative links marked with a ?)
John Roxborough - farming Bovagh in 1831 (?)
Richard Roxborough - marries Mary Peden 1828 (Bovagh) - Brother (?) William Roxborough marries Mary Torrens (Caheny)
Richards Children
James b. c.1833 - married 1855 - Elizabeth Callaghan (Caheny) - moved to Greenock between 1863 -65, sugar house labourer, then Liverpool between 1874-76
John b. c. 1840 - married 1860 - Ellen Nelson -
Anne b. c. 1841 - married 1866 - Thomas Docherty - moved to America
William b. c. 1842 - married 1864 - Jane Dempsey - stayed at Bovagh
Richard b. c.1848 - Unmarried - died at 28 at Bovagh
Rachel Brown b. c. 1853 - married 1874 - John Hill - moves to Greenock between 1876-81
From previous correspondence with a descendent of Anne Roxborough, this leaves three unknown children.
of interest is that from William and Mary's family (Caheny)
James b. c. 1841 married 1862 - Elizabeth Callaghan both from Caheny - move to Greenock after 1881 (?) sugar house labourer. but James dies here.
There seem to be a few families choosing to move to Greenock (Peden and Callaghan and Sterrit) following work, then some move onto Liverpool, possibly to Tate & Lyle Sugar house.
My next thoughts turn towards a missing eldest child of Richard and Mary (Bovagh). There is a two or three year gap between their marriage and James their first known child .
Best regards
Ady
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Lots of Aghadowey families went back and forth between here and Greenock (mainly to do with employment to at first then later also due to family members settling there). A man in Greenock, whose ancestors came from Aghadowey) that there were streets there with almost everyone from Aghadowey!
I can add another child to the list of children-
Maria Roxborough m.(1 Nov.1867 Garryduff Presbyterian Church) George Orr Shirley 23 June 1847-25 Apr.1935 Quincy, Mass.), son of Valentine Shirley & Nancy/Ann Orr. He m.2 (2 Jan.1879 Quincy, Mass.) Mary Moodie (1857 Quincy, Mass.-23 Dec.1933 Quincy, Mass.).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11508/8232351.pdf
“George arrived Dec.21, 1869.”
Passenger manifest list: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9Q-QYFX (Mary Shirley age 25, George Shirley age 20). Is this George & Maria?
1879 George's marriage to Mary Moody in Massachusetts list it as his second.
Boston Globe, 26 Apr.1935: SHIRLEY- In Quincy, April 25, George O. Shirley of 139 Quincy Street in his 88th year. Funeral services at the First Presbyterian Church on Saturday, April 27th.
I think Maria might have been a little bit older than George but he was only 20 (underage) so that might explain why they went all the way to Garryduff to get married. The minister was John Brown a nephew of Dr. John Brown of Aghadowey Presbyterian Church.
I haven't found any children born in Ireland, a death for Maria in Ireland or U.S. (George went to Penna. before settling in Massachusetts), etc. If she is the Mary Shirley on the passenger manifest (1869) then she almost certainly died in America. In any case, she must have died before 1879. I have a full account of the Shirley family and George didn't have a sister called Mary.