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Title: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: hudsonh on Tuesday 15 April 14 09:23 BST (UK)
I have drawn a complete blank on the Tabberrer family. Lydia Tabberrer married John Pole at Radford St Peters in 1829. I would be very grateful for any information about this marriage e.g. were there any recorded witnesses. Also a James Tabberrer was buried at St Peter, age 3 in 1817. Any information about him or any other Tabberer baptism, marriage or burial at any time in Radford would be most appreciated.
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 15 April 14 10:24 BST (UK)
Baptism Radford Christ Church
25-2-1900 Winnifred dau of Henry & Caroline TABBERER aged 11 years, abode 6 Moores Yd.
marriage Radford St Peter
30-7-1868 Henry Thomas TABBERER and Emma Litchfield
1-3-1829 John Pole and Lydia TABBERER
Burial Radford St Peter
15-12-1817 James TABERER aged 3 abode Radford
sadly no parents listed in the notes.
That is it for Radford on the NFHS cd's
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 15 April 14 14:14 BST (UK)
Hi

The James buried in 1817 was the child of William & Mary Tabberah and was baptised 3.7. 1814 at St Mary's Nottingham.  William was a FWK and address was Millstone Lane

By 1817 William & Mary had moved to Radford where they had 2 more children.  The name was spelt as Taberah.

Robert Taberah  & Mary Taberah both baptised on 4.4. 1817 at Radford to William & Mary, FWK


William Tabberah married Mary Winter 20.5. 1804 at St Marys.

Carol
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: hudsonh on Tuesday 15 April 14 15:06 BST (UK)
Thank you both so much for your help. Lydia Tabberrer and her husband lived in St Marys after their marriage and are found there in 1841. Robert Tabberrer lived a short distance away and had a son, John. By 1851 Lydia and her family had moved to Derby where a Thomas Tabberrer from Nottingham was living in Agard Street. Thomas had a nephew living with him who appears, by his name and age to have been the son of Robert Tabberrer seen above in the 1841 Census . By 1861, although Thomas Tabberrer had died Lydia was living next door! Unless there's an almighty coincidence (the possibility of which I don't dismiss) I think it likely that with such an unusual surname there could be some family link. Lydia gives her place of birth as Leicester and her father as John Tabberrer Frame Work Knitter but the Nottingham Directories have a John Tabberrer Frame Work Knitter living in Nottingham. I feel there might be a link between these people somewhere though I've yet to see it..
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: hudsonh on Tuesday 15 April 14 15:22 BST (UK)
Carol, You have been unbelievably helpful. The clue was the spelling of Taberrer as Taberah. I have thought of a few alternative spellings throughout the years but never this one. I found Lydia Taberah on Familysearch, baptised to John Taberah and his wife, Sarah, at St Marys, Leicester, in 1799. You have just given my brick wall an almighty kick. Thank you.
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 15 April 14 15:58 BST (UK)
Well done Carol, I only searched as Tab%r  ::) never thought of it ending in H.
And so I find,
baptism Nottingham St Peter
14-8-1782 Lydia dau of John and Mary TABRAH father a FWK
with a burial, same church
21-6-1789 LIDIA TABBERAH  notes dau of John
So surely a family name?

There is a marriage at Nottingham St Peter
21-12-1795 John Tabberah and Sarah Beakley.
And another at Nottm St Mary
18-6-1780 John Tabberrah and Mary Cockshead.

Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 15 April 14 17:53 BST (UK)
Glad to hear it's all coming together.

Burial

Mary Tabberrah, wife of John, buried 18.2. 1795 at St Peters



Carol
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: hudsonh on Tuesday 15 April 14 18:28 BST (UK)
Fantastic. You've both put me on the right track, I'm sure. There are births to John and Sarah in Leicester from 1797 to 1803 and then there are baptisms to John and Sarah in Nottingham from 1805. I wonder whether the earlier John, married to Mary and father of Lydia (1782-1789) then married Sarah Beakely after the death of his first wife, Mary, in 1795, moved briefly to Leicester and then back to Nottingham. One of John and Sarah's Leicester births was the unusally named Austin Tabberah and an Austin Tabberah was buried in Nottingham, St Peter, in 1806. Thank you both, you've made my day.
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Wednesday 16 April 14 09:40 BST (UK)
 ;)
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Thursday 03 August 17 03:26 BST (UK)
I am a descendant of a John Tabberrah.
He was a soldier enlisted in Nottingham, England and came to Canada in 1827.

By 1855, he moved to NY with his wife Ann (having trouble finding marriage records) & 3 children. William Henry Tabberrah (born 1840) fought in the Civil War

I don't know who John Tabberrah's parents are. Per 1870 NY census, he was 73. So he was probably born around 1797? Unless it's a couple years off?
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Thursday 03 August 17 17:43 BST (UK)
Baptism Nottingham St Mary ( dates are a little off)
2 Sep 1804 John son of William & Mary TABARRAH. Buried same Church 12 Sep 1804, notes say son of William.
12 Sep 1805 John son of William & Mary TABBARAH

Marriage Nottingham, St Mary
20 May 1804 William TABBERAH and Mary Winter.

Having given you the above baptism for John, there is also a burial for a 24 year old John Tabberah abode Mill stone Lane. Buried Nottingham St Peter 6 Oct 1824. The address Mill Stone Lane is given for the baptism of another child of William and Mary 3 Jul 1814 James son of William & Mary Tabberah father a frame work knitter abode Millstone Lane.
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 03 August 17 17:55 BST (UK)
Cross-referencing to Liltisay's thread on John Tabberrah http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=776190
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Thursday 03 August 17 18:59 BST (UK)
 >:( :-\
When will I learn..... ???
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Friday 04 August 17 00:26 BST (UK)
I think I found the John Tabberrah but spelled differently.

Just as suspected he was born 1797, matching the 1870 NY Census.

John Tabarra
Born: 1797
Event: 1816
Record Set: British Army Service Records
Location: St Mary's Nottingham

Who do you think are his parents from above & Shaun's replies?
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 04 August 17 21:05 BST (UK)
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I think I found the John Tabberrah but spelled differently.

Just as suspected he was born 1797, matching the 1870 NY Census.

John Tabarra
Born: 1797
Event: 1816

That one (discharged from the army in 1824) doesn't fit with army service in Canada in the 1830's and 1840's or with the 1860 and 1880 census entries for your man in Clinton County NY. I would suggest that the 1870 census entry has the wrong age (US censuses from that time are notoriously inaccurate).
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Friday 04 August 17 23:46 BST (UK)
What did you find regarding army records for John Tabberrah in Canada?

If he was in Canada by 1827, I have no idea if the 1860 John Tabberrah from England is someone else although Mary Malone or Maloon was Ann's mom.

Atleast I have death records of Ann Tabberrah but where did his go?

Btw, thanks for looking into this!
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Saturday 05 August 17 00:00 BST (UK)
And just to make everything confusing, there are John's in the 1900s with kids naming as Johns too.

Remember the baptism research in Canada, a couple babies were all
named John too who died at Infancy
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 05 August 17 09:58 BST (UK)
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What did you find regarding army records for John Tabberrah in Canada?

The early (pre-1848) baptisms I listed on the other thread mention his regiments which match the army file for John Tabberrah born Nottingham in 1807, He was discharged in Montreal in 1848 after 21 years in Canada. We know that son William Henry was born in Canada (we have his baptism) and had moved to Beekmantown, Clinton, NY by 1861. 
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Sunday 06 August 17 04:05 BST (UK)
Thank you so much! So definitely his parents are William Tabberah and Mary Winter.

I just wish I was good at researching. I can't find anything relating to Canada  or perhaps I'm looking at the wrong place!
Title: Re: Tabberrer Nottingham
Post by: Liltisay on Sunday 27 January 19 20:01 GMT (UK)
Linking to John Tabberrah' wife
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=805577.msg6641965#msg6641965