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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: JonJon on Tuesday 15 April 14 18:45 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Thomas TACEY was transported to VDL and arrived there in 1840 on the Runnymede.
Please can I have help to find out what happened to him and his descendants ?
It seems as if he may have married twice first to Sarah PAGE
and later to a Catherine.. although I am far from certain about this.
There seems to have been at least one daughter.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
JonJon in Toronto where it snowed today.
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Hi,
He has a confusing record where it states family etc.
Family
Married and 1 Child Wife Catherine at {Wondon}
Marital Status
Married and 2 Children
http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31440284
Im assuming he was married to a Catherine in the UK before been shipped out here, then remarried.
Permission to marry .. Tasmania state archives
TACEY Thomas ship Runnymede PAGE Sarah free 00 FEB 1845
The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880)
Saturday 6 July 1850
Recommended for Conditional Pardons.
etc etc
Thomas Tacey, Runnymede
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/65976246?searchTerm=%22thomas%20tacey%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=thomas+tacey
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I have found a newspaper article on his court case if your interested.
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I also found this index to the 1841 UK census but i dont have access to get further info from it.
Catherine Tacey Age 25
Birthplace Leicestershire
Registration District Barrow Upon Soar
Sub-District Barrow Upon Soar
Parish Barrow Upon Soar
County Leicestershire
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Thomas Tacey
Spouse's Name Catherine Frier
Event Date 1830
Event Place Barrow Upon Soar,Leicester,England
Scrap that marriage ::)
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Hi,
Thanks Giblet.
Yes Thomas TACEY was married to Catherine ( nee FRIER ) who can be found in the UK Census for 1841 living in Barrow-upon-Soar, Leicestershire, England.
Yes you found the correct UK marriage.
Other household members are her mother and grandmother plus a boy that may be a son.
The boy Joseph died soon after the 1841 census was taken.
There is a series of messages in Rootschat Leicestershire about the UK side of the story.
I also have UK Newspaper items on the court case.
I would like to know if he did marry Sarah PAGE and if they had children etc.
There seems to be a matching family in a Census of Tasmania.
Regards
JonJon
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Hi,
Some burials.
Ross Anglican Cemetery, Tasmania
Herbert Tacey
Born: 1st Dec 1877, died: 7th Dec 1878.
Margaret Collins Tacey
Born: 1873, died: 13th Nov 1892.
William Tacey
Born: 1842, died: 29th Jun 1893.
Campbell Town Methodist Cemetery
Eric William Tacey
Born: 29th Nov 1895 Campbelltown , died: 20th Feb 1896 Campbelltown.
Gerry
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1890-91 Tasmanian Post Office Directory.
ROSS
Tacey William, carter
Tacey Francis, labourer.
1892-93 Tasmanian Post Office Directory.
ROSS
Tacey William, carter
Tacey Francis, labourer
1894-95 Tasmanian Post Office Directory.
ROSS
Tacey William, carter
Gerry
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There seems to be a matching family in a Census of Tasmania.
Regards
JonJon
As you say there appears to be a record in 1848.
http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/tasmaniasheritage/search/name-indexes/nameindexes
On the page which shows the index of his name, there is the option to complete a form to order the record. To know more, you may need to do this.
Sue
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Could this inquiry in the newspaper in 1879 be regarding the same man?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8979523?searchTerm="thomas tacey"&searchLimits=l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||l-title=10
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for the newspaper notice.
It could be the same .. but additional data would be needed.
Cheers
JonJon
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The actual census returns are available online without having to order them. Just go to this web portal -
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10
Enter the details of the person your looking for and click search. Will bring up a list of names and locations plus census locations. In this case Tacey, Thomas 1848 Launceston CEN1/1/102 page 53.
Click on the 53 and it will take you to the METS Reader and the 2 page Census return.
Found this to be an excellent resource...
Cheers,
Peter
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Thanks Peter. So that census tells us he was married with one kid. And it appears his wife was born in the colonies.
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Thomas T(R)ACEY was a steerage passenger on the Yarra Yarra which departed Launceston for Melbourne on 20 Oct 1852. He had arrived in the colony on the Runnymede and had a conditional pardon. http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=2
This doesn't mean he left Tasmania permanently, but at least you know he was still alive.
I initially thought that the census entry was for Thomas FACEY and his wife and daughter who lived in Launceston at the time. However the married male holding a ticket of leave would apply to Thomas TACEY rather than Thomas FACEY who arrived free on the Royal Saxon in 1842.
Giblet, the married female arrived free, not born in the colony.
I can't see a marriage or any births which might be connected to Thomas TACEY.
'LACEY' is possibly another misinterpreted name you should be looking for.
JonJon, have you identified parents' names for your Thomas? Death registrations in Victoria record the parents' names if they were known by the informant.
Debra :)
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Thank you Debra,
I had trawled the Taz marriage images on FamilySearch and discovered a marriage of a Thomas FACEY and Betsy BEAM(?). I should look at the death registers for Sarah PAGE.
Also; using Trove found a Family Notice from Bendigo, dated 1888, that seems to be a match.
Surname given as TACEY death dates for Thomas & Betsy. No idea how to follow-up short of buying death certs. Have not attempted to find Bendigo cemetery records on-line yet.
Sadly I do not know who Thomas TACEY's parents were. He was born about 1810 probably in Leicestershire, England; likely at Borrow-upon-Soar. His UK wife's family were Baptists. She remarried as Catherine TACEY to a John HUBBARD in 1849.. see tree on Ancestry.
All for now.
Regards
JonJon
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Thomas FACEY and Betsy KEAM/KEAN/CAIN/KING and their children went to Victoria in 1852. He is a different person from Thomas TACEY (I wondered myself briefly if he was the same person).
There are notices in the paper after he died in the name of FACEY, but just one was mistakenly written as TACEY. He arrived free in 1842 on the Royal Saxon and Betsy said she arrived free on the Indian but I can only find a surviviing list of male immigrants who arrived on that ship in 1842. http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=2
Debra :)
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Thanks Debra,
Very good of you to follow up.
FWIW, my wife is fra' Dundee, Scotland.
Regards
JonJon