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Title: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Wednesday 16 April 14 12:18 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find some information on  Cissy Kearns  Tydavnet.    I think she died back in 1963.
I would like to know where she  was from originally and where she is buried and indeed any other info.

Thanks.   
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Thursday 07 August 14 20:07 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find some information on  Cissy Kearns  Tydavnet.    I think she died back in 1963.
I would like to know where she  was from originally and where she is buried and indeed any other info.

Thanks.   
I would like to add some more info which I think is correct.
Cissy may have been a pet name and her real name may have been  Josephine .
She may have been married to a Garda.

Thanks for any info.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 August 14 20:21 BST (UK)
If she was RC then probably buried in RC g/yard, Presbyterian in a Presbyterian Cemetery etc so if you found out her religion it would cut down on options.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Friday 08 August 14 00:38 BST (UK)
I should have mentioned that she was Catholic.
Also  she may have been in her late 70's/80 's when she died.
Thanks. m
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Thursday 04 December 14 14:03 GMT (UK)
I should have mentioned that she was Catholic.
Also  she may have been in her late 70's/80 's when she died.
Thanks. m

Just a little reminder on this one.   Any help appreciated.  Thanks
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Thursday 04 December 14 20:41 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this could be the family in the 1911 census with the spelling Kerins:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003146168/
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Thursday 04 December 14 20:42 GMT (UK)
See also this post by Jim Kerins on another website:

http://boards.ancestry.com.au/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1&p=surnames.kerins

Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Thursday 04 December 14 21:07 GMT (UK)
This looks like the same family in Newbliss in the 1901 census:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ebh/

Edit:

Note that the enumerator is John Kerins who would normally have been on the form as Head of Household but is recorded at the barracks.  That's the first time I have seen that.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Thursday 04 December 14 21:37 GMT (UK)
...and this looks like the father in Newbliss barracks as J.K., constable:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ebi/
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 December 14 22:35 GMT (UK)
This looks like the same family in Newbliss in the 1901 census:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ebh/

Edit:

Note that the enumerator is John Kerins who would normally have been on the form as Head of Household but is recorded at the barracks.  That's the first time I have seen that.

It possible it is where he was on Census night.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Friday 05 December 14 22:38 GMT (UK)
Excellent work  and thanks for all the help. This seems to be the family ok.   
Would the parents (or family) be buried near Newbliss.
Any further info would be great.   
Again thanks for the help. 
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: hallmark on Friday 05 December 14 23:16 GMT (UK)
Parents most probably not, he was from Sligo and wife from Meath!
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Saturday 06 December 14 10:12 GMT (UK)
The family was in Newbliss in 1901 and Tedavnet/Tydavnet in 1911.  So the more likely of the two for family burials would be Tydavnet.  If you have a look at the IGP website you can see that there is a Kerins grave at plot 38 of the new Tedavnet Cemetery:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ebr/

If you are within striking distance it would be well worth a visit to check.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Saturday 06 December 14 10:42 GMT (UK)
If you want to investigate a bit further back, the marriage details would give you Mary Josephine's maiden name.  You can see from the census details that the couple married around 1898.  Since Mary Josephine was originally from Meath it is quite likely that the marriage took place there. Familysearch has the marriage of a John Kerins in Kells in the period April - June 1898.  The record would be on volume 2, page 725:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYZN-DJ9

If you are feeling lucky, you could send to Roscommon for a copy (not a certificate) which would cost 4 euro:

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx

If you include the volume and page number anywhere on the form it will ease the process.  Don't worry if you have to leave some of the form blank. You have to post or fax the application but if you tick the relevant box they will e-mail the response.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Tuesday 16 December 14 00:20 GMT (UK)
Just thought I'd let you all know I   received the marriage cert. by email and it is the correct one.
Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: glensman on Tuesday 16 December 14 11:32 GMT (UK)
Excellent.  It is great when you unearth the correct record.

With regard to Tydavnet graves, it might be worthwhile contacting the local historical society which is mentioned here:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01edg/

Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: thelink on Tuesday 16 December 14 11:57 GMT (UK)
Yes, it great when you get a result.
Thanks for the link they might be worth a call.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: bigbigjimbo on Friday 31 December 21 09:46 GMT (UK)
The Kerins you are researching I think was my aunt Ciss I was not aware that she died in Ireland but I will confirm with my sister who lives nearby to Tydavnet where she will definitely be buried if it is the same one. I have quite a lot of information on the Kerins family originally from Ballymote.
Title: Re: Kearns
Post by: bigbigjimbo on Friday 31 December 21 09:51 GMT (UK)
Just had it confirmed she dies in America and here daughter (my cousin) is a Mary Laverty who still lives in New York.
I do think she died around the time you have quoted and I can confirm if you want.