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Title: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Dunk on Thursday 24 April 14 18:56 BST (UK)
I am trying to find any family of Sgt Nicholas William Cantwell RAF aged 21  died on 20/09/1940 son of Thomas and Bridget Cantwell from Galway Irish Republic. He is buried in my local church cemetery
any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Thursday 24 April 14 19:31 BST (UK)
Possibly born Nicholas William Cantwell July Sep 1919 Galway vol 4 page 165.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Thursday 24 April 14 19:42 BST (UK)
C W G C shows his burial under above name in Benson(St Helen) churchyard.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Dunk on Thursday 24 April 14 19:52 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help , I am trying to trace all the men buried there who came here from other countries and never made it home.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Thursday 24 April 14 20:29 BST (UK)
His parents seem to be Thomas Cantwell and Bridget Birkett married 1916 in Galway however going back five years to 1911 there seems to be only one Thomas Cantwell in Galway born in New York age 5 so too young for marriage in 1916 while there are two Bridget Birketts in Dublin one age 5 and one 15 which would be 20 in 1916 ,i wonder could Thomas have been a soldier too.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Thursday 24 April 14 20:43 BST (UK)
Looks like they had eleven children up till 1935.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Dunk on Friday 25 April 14 09:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help ,I have sent you a personal message with more background to what happened to Nicholas and his friend ,hope you get it as i am new to this site and trying to find
how to use it.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: myluck! on Friday 25 April 14 14:32 BST (UK)
This is a reference to a Nicholas CANTWELL, chaplain on board a torpedoed ship (http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/history/chapter279.html)
from the Galway Advertiser Newspaper in 1998
It contains the name and address of a person who corrected an earlier article
by naming people shown in a photograph.

The newspaper or the gentleman may be of value to you in your search
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Friday 25 April 14 14:40 BST (UK)
Birth 10 Magdelin Terrace,Galway ,10 September 1919 Nicholas William Cantwell son of Thomas William Cantwell (sargeant C R Regiment) and Bridget Birkett.

Marriage in St Josephs, Galway no 2 District 2nd May 1916
Thomas Cantwell age 28? Bachelor,sargeant C R, address Renmore,son of Richard a labourer to
Bridget Birkett age 21 spinster,address 15 Henry St ( Dublin?) dtr of Robert Birkett a painter.
Witnesses Bernard Birkett and Elizabeth Cantwell.

1901 census 50 Barrack St Kings co (Offaly)
Richard Cantwell age 38 lbr
Elizabeth age 39
Thomas age 14?
Mary age 8
Joseph age 6
Margaret age 9 months

1911 census 13 Emmetts Terrace, Tullamore
Richard Cantwell age 50 with family
Thomas age 23 overseas in 1911

1901 Census 26.2 Mulgrave St, Kingstown,Dublin
Robert Birkett age 27 a painter
Julia age 25
Bridget age 5
Patrick age 3
Bernard age 6 months

1911 census 57.6 Patrick St ,East Side,Kingstown
Bridget Birkett age 15 and family.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: myluck! on Friday 25 April 14 19:03 BST (UK)
Good work dathai

I believe from Galway records that Bridget’s address was Henry Street, GALWAY

RENMORE is the location of an Army Barracks so Thomas could be from anywhere
I will check military for more info

Link to 1901 census for Birketts (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Mulgrave_Street/1320433/)
Link to 1911 census for Birketts  (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__2/Patrick_Street__East_Side/95614/)
as found by dathai

If this is correct this is most likely Brigid’s baptism record (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1142640263935)

I've PMed with additional information that may relate to the living
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Friday 25 April 14 22:54 BST (UK)
Found  by googling''Thomas Cantwell Connaught Ranger''
from The New Ranger magizine
no 8457 Pte Thomas Cantwell from Tullamore was luckier he survived the war went on to get married and have a family and ended up a postman in Galway city after he left the army.INCLUDES his photo.

Also what i think is the 1911 census of Gough Barracks Ferozepore,Punjab,India.
D Company
Private Thomas Cantwell age 23 Telegraphist,Kings Co,Tullamore, absent.
edit taken from the Great War Forum
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Saturday 26 April 14 10:51 BST (UK)
Is'nt it very coincidental that a William Mulvoy age 18 in 1911 grandson of Mary Barrett is a Private in The 3 rd Connaught Rangers  living at 15 Henry St, Galway.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: myluck! on Saturday 26 April 14 11:15 BST (UK)
link to info mentioned by dathai (http://connaughtrangersassoc.com/cra/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Journal2013.pdf) that shows a photo of Pte Thomas Cantwell
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 30 April 14 15:12 BST (UK)
Richard Cantwell age 24 a yardman son of Thomas Cantwell a labourer and (possibly Elizabeth Hogan) of Bury Quay,Kings Co married Kate Salmon age 24 dtr of Patrick Salmon a gamekeeper of William St,Tullamore.
In Catholic Church Tullamore on 10th Jan 1886.

Thomas Cantwell born 4th Nov 1886 at Bury Quay,Tullamore.to the above parents.

Kate (Salmon) Cantwell died Jan March 1891 age 29.

Richard Cantwell then Married Elizabeth Carroll in July Sep 1891
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Beirnís Ní Cantual on Sunday 20 July 14 23:23 BST (UK)
Oh my! Nicholas - Nixie to his family - was my uncle. He died many years before I was born and so I never got to meet him, though I did carry round a photo of him in my purse for a long time until it was stolen. I came across this site as I was searching for information on my father, Bernard (Barney) Cantwell. He was Nixie's younger brother. I knew my grandparents were Thomas and Bridgit, but nothing beyond that, although my father had said that his family originally came from Tullamore and that one of them had married into the Salmon family who were supposed to be local aristocrats. I'm speechless at all the hard work you've put in and how accurate your research is. Thank you so very much. If any of the Cantwells wish to get in touch, please leave a message here.  Bernice Cantwell.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Beirnís Ní Cantual on Sunday 20 July 14 23:33 BST (UK)
Dathai - you are right, Thomas (my grandfather) was a soldier in the Connaught Rangers and the children were: Richard, Robert, Nicholas, Bernard, Clare, Nancy, Marie, Patrick, Rita, Joan and one I can't recall.

Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Beirnís Ní Cantual on Monday 21 July 14 00:07 BST (UK)
And Bridie - I remembered!
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: myluck! on Monday 21 July 14 14:42 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Bernice
Glad our search was so interesting to you, be careful though this genealogy can be addictive!

DUNK the originator of this topic seems to have left the site but I am going to send you a private message with some additional information that I had found but not posted as there are rules around privacy on RC
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 21 July 14 21:12 BST (UK)
A relation of my husband is Loretta Small and she married a Padraic Cantwell of Galway.

There may be some connection.

http://notices.irishtimes.com/?_fstatus=search;keywords=CANTWELL%20Padraic;source=all

Tara
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Beirnís Ní Cantual on Monday 21 July 14 22:00 BST (UK)
That is very odd, Tara - I've literally just this minute managed to connect with Loretta on FB. Such a lot of coincidences x
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 21 July 14 22:04 BST (UK)
HA

Tell her Tara McDonnell Small said Hi !

Lovely Lady <3

Tara
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: myluck! on Monday 21 July 14 22:33 BST (UK)
If there was a like button here I'd press it!!
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 21 July 14 22:36 BST (UK)
Hi MyLuck

I have often thought the same  ;D

Tara
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Maria O'Beirne on Friday 01 July 16 18:18 BST (UK)
Hi

I know it's a bit late but I've just seen my grandfathers name mentioned in a post from April 2014. William Mulvoy. Did anyone want to know anything about him?
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Frankodunne on Saturday 20 April 19 22:10 BST (UK)
Hi there, sitting here at Easter weekend in hotel with my mother Bridie Cantwell who was reminiscing about my uncle Nicholas and I decided to google him online and turned up this excellent thread. My mother was 9 when he died but has a good bit of background to how Nicky came to join the raf and also memories from when the news was brought home to the family. Sadly due to the circumstances of ww2 and security Nicholas’s body couldn’t be repatriated to Ireland - so his mother Bridget “mud” and his father Thomas (my grandparents) had to wait several years before they could visit his grave and mourn properly. My mother has photos of the burial taking place as well as the graveyard at Benson. Happy to share if they are of interest. Regards Frank Dunne - Dublin Ireland.
Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Beirnís Ní Cantual on Monday 22 April 19 05:10 BST (UK)
Hello Frank - we are cousins. I'm Barney's eldest daughter, Bernice. So good to hear that Bridie is still with us and I'd love to hear more about what she remembers. I'll send you a message on here if I can remember how to...

I'm so glad Mud and Thomas visited the grave. For some reason I assumed they hadn't. It would be great to reconcile what Bridie remembers with the snippets my Dad told me.

Title: Re: Nicholas William Cantwell
Post by: Frankodunne on Monday 22 April 19 23:35 BST (UK)
Hi Beirnis,

great to hear from you, yes id love to  sync up and swap the news! I'll look out for your message.

Hope all is well,

Regards
Frank