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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: Opal on Thursday 24 April 14 19:08 BST (UK)
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I believe I have traced my Aylott/Aylett line to the marriage of Richard Aylott and Elizabeth Brett in Little Canfield on 21st September 1669. Does anyone have further info on this family at this time or can confirm from the Parish Register entry if Richard was of that Parish? Thank you.
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There is no further info in the PR's I'm afraid!
Mark
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Thank you, from looking through a name search on SEAX the surname seems quite numerous in the Dunmow area so I think I need to subscribe and do a search of the Parish Registers!
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Fortunately the 1st few pages of the PR's contain a table showing when each surname first appears in the document. The 1st Aylot is the above wedding.
There is a baptism of a Richard Aylot 26.02.1681 parents Richard & Elizabeth.
Mark
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Thank you again! Susan Aylott b. 1832 Albury, Herts married George Parker in 1850 in Albury (my gr. gr. grandparents) and over the last 6 years, on and off, I have worked my way back through the Aylott line in Albury to these two generations in Little Canfield. Every time you get another jigsaw piece it opens up more queries!
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Not sure of you got any further with this - it's a while since you posted?
I follow Ayletts in general (not just my own branch), so I'd noted this marriage and subsequent children, but intrigued that you say there is an Albury connection. I have sons John, Richard, Matthew, James, and wondered which was your ancestor?
For the marriage in 1669 I have checked out Essex Richard Ayletts of a 1640 vintage - there aren't so many in my database. There is one bap to a Richard Aylett in Takeley in 1664, but also a burial there for a Richard in 1687, so it probably isn't the same guy.
There is a baptism in White Notley in March 1640 to an Arthur and Margaret; this one is a little bit old for the marriage, but a possible. The third Richard reference is one born at some point after 1640, probably in Braintree, to Robert Aylett and Mary Wall. This is a well-to-do family, and may be plausible given a) the second of the Little Canfield Richard's sons is called Robert; b) elsewhere at least the Bretts were also well-to-do and there is at least one earlier Aylett-Brett marriage.
The Herts Ayletts are a bit of a nightmare because of the Aylott thing - not at all sure they are the same family in spite of the closeness of the names, but of course who knows? And Aylett is misspelled so much, even in Essex where the name was better known, that morphing to/from Aylott may well take place. The habit in 16th/17th writing of writing an 'e' as an'o' with a bar across it has led to some mistranscription too, but in general Aylott isn't found in Essex.
Anyway, if you are still tracking this stuff, it would be good to talk over your Albury trail, and of course if I have any other useful data, happy to help.
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Hello, thank you for your reply. I just jotted down the line I have: Richard Aylott m Elizabeth Brett 21 Sept 1669 Little Canfield. Richard is buried there on 14th Aug 1693.
Their son, Matthew Aylottt chr 26 July 1692 Little Canfield.
His son, Matthew Aylott chr 13 Jan 1716 Albury, Herts.
His son, Thomas Aylott/Alott chr 4 Oct 1731 Albury.
His son, George Aylott/Allott/Allett chr 31 May 1755 Albury.
His son, George Aylott chr 3 or 13 June 1798 Albury. Died 1879 Albury.
His daughter, Susan Aylott chr 29 April 1832 Albury. Died 1902 Albury. My 2x great grandmother.
I have my tree on Ancestry with the siblings of each generation and sources attached.
Do you have a tree on there and I could invite you to view or privately message me your email and I can send an invite.
I came across many variations of spelling which took time working through a few years ago! The christenings/burial are all from the Parish Registers as are the marriages on my tree.
If those are Richard's parents then that would be a breakthrough, thank you!
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Thanks for the very interesting information. My name is Ruth Aylett and rather than trying to bend the email prohibition here I suggest you google for me - I work at Heriot-Watt University.
You'll be aware that having someone move area is very tricky because it is hard to prove they are the same person. So how confident are you that the Little Canfield Matthew is the one that appears in Albury?
I ask because there is a Matthew Aylett having children in Aveley from 1621, first with a wife Mary and then with one Dorothy. Aveley is certainly a lot further from Little Canfield than Albury is, but on the other hand the names of the children of this pair overlap a great deal with the names of those of Richard and Elizabeth Brett, which proves nothing but suggested to me that this Matthew was a good candidate for the Aveley family. I will admit too that I have not yet checked the dates with the actual PRs, but have taken these from FreeReg transcriptions - which has this Matthew as bap Jul 1688 rather than the Jul 1692 you have. Maybe this one died young and your guy was a successor?
Other Matthews around at the right sort of time: there is a Matthew bap 1 Jan 1691 in Takeley, parents John Aylett and Sarah Lavender, who vanishes form the area - no burial, marriage, kids. There is mention of an earlier Matthew in Takeley - his wife Mary was the victim of a rape in 1652 according to SEAX (my earliest Takeley Aylett event).
Then there is one bap 29 May 1685 in Great Dunmow, again with no burial marriage or kids there. This last one is the son of a Matthew and Anne pair and is the only child recorded there, suggesting that they had ties somewhere else.
Again, I have the Albury Matthew(s) having some children with names you do not find among the Essex Ayletts, notably Jonathan (no examples in Essex families until the 19thC) and Joseph (only instances in Halstead in this period).
My other question is how sure you are that Thomas 1731 is the son of Matthew 1716 and not of his father? There is only a 15 year gap between the two baps, which might make it unlikely? Moreover Thomas would then be the eldest of Matthew 1716's children, and while naming gets a bit less rigid in the 18thC, most families are still using their father's or their own name for their first child. Maybe the Matthew bap 1734 is a more likely first child for Matthew 1716? However I don't have any burials for Albury, and it could be that this would clarify which Matthew has which children.
My Essex records have reasonable scope but I have less on Herts Ayletts, and so it could be that there are some other Matthews in Herts too, though I assume you have checked this for the period you are looking at?
Apologies for so many questions and so few answers.
Ruth
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I also discovered an Aylett line recently in Essex. Hannah Aylett born c1657. She wed Charles Dister (No marriage yet found but Hannah is mentioned in the will of her sister Mary Lazell, along with a Daniel Aylett, brother). Daniel Aylett was of Great Leighs. Hannah died in 1733, age on gravestone is given as 76.
Not yet found any baptisms of Hannah, Daniel and Mary yet so not sure if they link to Richard Aylett born c1640. Great Leighs is about 8 miles from Little Canfield.
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Thank you for the info re the Essex line.
The Matthew Aylott of Little Canfield was christened there on 26th July 1692, aged 4, birth year 1688 presumably, parents are given as Richard and Elizabeth Aylott.
There is a marriage of Matthew Aillet to Hannah Matthew in 1714, Newport, Essex in the Boyd's Marriage Index. Newport is approx 6/7/miles from Albury, Hertfordshire. I have other Hertfordshire lines that jump the Essex/Herts Parishes over generations so this marriage could be plausible.
The Albury christenings of Jonathan 8th October 1714, Matthew 13th January 1716, Richard 'Alett' 1st May 1720 (is Richard due to his grandfather's name?) all give Matthew as the father and finally Ann 'Alett' 3rd November 1723, daughter of Hannah and Matthew Aylott. This could be evidence that the Matthew/Hannah married in 1714 are the parents of these four children?
Hannah is buried at Albury on 9th September 1725 and is 'wife of Matthew Alett' in PR.
What is possible is that Matthew born 1688 remarried on his wife's death and he had further children with a second wife - Thomas 4th October 1731, Joseph 18th February 1732, Matthew 24th December 1734 and James 2nd February 1745 in Albury? Unfortunately no mother's name is given.
This could explain why a Matthew, son of Matthew Aylett is buried on 4th January 1731/32 - possibly Matthew b.1716? And if so, why Matthew of 1734 was named that following the death of the 1716 Matthew and the earlier two children being called Thomas and Joseph?
Therefore I could have added an extra generation, that didn't occur!
There is a burial in Albury on 19th August 1759, unfortunately no age given for Matthew Eylott - this could be Matthew b.1688? But this theory could explain why an Elizabeth, widow of Matthew Allott is buried on 2nd April 1770 at Albury, if he did remarry, whom I have not before been able to account for?
It is all about trying to use the evidence available and making sense of it, that is why it is so fascinating adding the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle and sometimes having to review that evidence and this could go some way to clarify what info I had gathered!
I have just gone through my notes and this theory is making sense after returning to it!
I shall look for your email though other users have used the 'Personal Message' service on this forum to send personal/private info to me before, such as email addresses or where possibly people are still living.
Hope all this Aylott info is still making sense!
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I agree the Albury story makes more sense like that; I think you are still some way short of knowing which Mathew it was.
On the Daniel Aylett issue raised by coombs (I think we might have talked Ayletts before?) - you cannot assume all Ayletts are closely related. The families spread out and get severely pruned. Very interested by the will - it's hard to find info from relatives. I have a Daniel Aylett associated with Gosfield in this period, which isn't far from Great Leighs. He did have a daughter Mary but also seems to have died quite young - there is a will from him. And the other thing is that he was a Society of Friends man. Daniel (like Matthew) is not the most common of Aylett names: I have one buried in Chelmsford in 1814, one buried Mountnessing 1806, then a set of largely 17th C ones, bap 1617/18 High Roding, one married Colchester 1650, one with a 1682 will in Tollesbury, also with a probably rather young son Daniel, and the Gosfield one who dies around 1726 and has a son bap 1723. No links to the Matthew-related families we were talking about as far as I know..
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I think I missed this when i was chatting earlier in the year. I track Aylett families so I have a database with quite a lot of them in it.
I have two Hannah Aylett's of the right sort of age. One is a daughter of Robert Aylett (a fairly well-to-do clothier) and Mary Wall in Braintree. They had at least ten children according to their wills - Robert: PCC will 1657 folio 492 Robert Aylett, clothier, of
Braintree; Mary: PCC will 1659 folio 354 Mary relict of Robert of Braintree but as the Braintree PR doesn't go that far back I have no baps for them nor do I have the actual marriage. However she does have a sister Mary as well as brothers Thomas, John, Richard, Robert, Moses. The Richard is a candidate for the one that marries Ann Brett in Aveley, the John remains a clothier in Bocking, Thomas also stays in Bocking, Robert goes into the wine trade and die in oporto, Moses becomes a draper in London. However there isn't one called Daniel in any of the wills.
The other Hannah is bap 1661 in Braintree daughter of a Matthias and Hannah. However the mother dies soon after the child is born; if I am correct Matthias moves to Colchester and marries twice more, having daughters Elizabeth and Susan.
I have three possible Daniels listed but none of them as baps: one marries twice in 1650 and 1656 in Colchester and seems a bit too old to Hannah's brother; the next is only known from a will 1682, Tollesbury, which mentions a wife Anne and son Daniel who sounds like he is still a child, but no other children; then there is the Society of Friends Gosfield one who at a guess was born in the 1690s and is too young to be Hannah's brother I would have thought. Any evidence Hannah was Society of friends?
I could concoct a story that Robert/Mary wall have a son Daniel who becomes a Quaker and is cut off from the family, but this is stretching it a bit...
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hi @ruthaylett
I'm intrigued that you have collected a list of Aylett and was wondering if you might be able to help as I have a couple of troublesome ones!!! Hoping it's ok to add to this post!
1. Sarah Aylett m. William Turner at Bardfield Saling 1797 (my current theory is that she could be the b/b Sarah bap at Panfield 1770 to Sarah Aylet - but I'm intrigued that John Aylett is a witness at her marriage.
2. Rachel poss Aylett m. c.1779 Charles Deeks and has chn in Hawkwell from 1781-1797
thank you!
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Sarah is one of those well-used Aylett names so unless you have other information it could be hard to locate the one in this marriage. It's true that the Paling one is geographically close; however there is a Hawkwell one bap 25 Feb 1770 whose parents are John and Sarah; she has a lot of younger siblings. There is also a Hatfield Broad Oak bap to a Thomas and Mary 5 Aug 1770; a Dagenham one to a Thomas and Sarah 13 Jan 1773; and others though further away. But I'd worry about the age at marriage for a woman bap 1770; moreover illegitimate children were often sent away to service if female. Are Turner and wife still about in the 1841 census? Any idea what his occupation was?
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And on Rachel: now this isn't a usual Aylett name at least in this period. The only one I have was bap 27 Oct 1734 in Rettendon to a Richard and Mary - seems a bit early for a 1779 marriage.
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Thank you for replying. Sadly William Turner died before census, though he was from Rayne but most seem to have been born around Bardfield Saling and not really into baptising! They had 4 children as far as I can tell, John, James, Sarah, Thomas - Thomas is my line and he married at 42. All seem to be agricultural labourers.
Were the Aylets non-conformists? There seem to be be fewer baptism records than others.
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Ag lab men could marry late given the need to have enough income to support a family, though this was more usual I think for sons of farmers who waited until they inherited. Marriage ages on the whole seemed to drop during this century: and there was a fertility issue for women of course. 27 was very late for a woman's first marriage.
Some Ayletts were NCs especially in that part of Essex: Charles, born around 1758 in Wethersfield and a carpenter in Bocking, was an Independent; he has daughters baptised at the Bocking Independent Meeting House in the 1790s, too late to be useful for your marriage, and anyway a carpenter's daughter would not necessarily marry an ag lab. There was also an earlier Quaker family in Gosfield; suspect other Aylett NCs too. The 1753 act as far as I remember forced NCs to marry in a CoE.
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Thank you, I appreciate your time and knowledge, it's one of those parts of my tree that I keep returning to, ever hopeful!
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I assume this wasn't your Charles Deeks? https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=1&id=1096726
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Well it's not impossible considering Rachel died in 1797🤔