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They had two children - Eleanor married Arthur Weckesser or Wickease (not sure) and Ernest - (died 1959 approx. 38 yrs old) - Annie Caldwell migrated from Northern Ireland - can anyone help? king regards Jen :)
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Is this the son: Age 34 at death?
Ernest Robert MOFFAT, Service Nr 6557401,
Died 25 Nov 1959 San Diego, (possibly at the Naval Hospital there).
Dob: 14 Feb 1925 Other Country
Buried: 18 Dec 1959: Willamette National Cemetery, Oregon
Occupation: Sonar Chief, US Navy
Died on Active Peacetime Duty
NOK: Father, Robert MOFFATT of 2742 N.E. 61st, Portland Oregon
Cheers
AMBLY
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1930 Census: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
Head: Robert MOFFATT 41, marr 27 yrs, b Northern Ireland, Janitor, imm 1927
Wife: Annie MOFFATT 41, marr 27 yrs, b Northern Ireland, imm 1928
Son: Ernest Robt MOFFATT 5, b Canada, imm 1928
Roomer: Leonie VIAL 23, single, b Oregon
Dau: Annie Eleanor MOFFATT 13, b Canada, imm 1928
Roomer: David CAMERON 56, single, b Scotland,
Roomer: Miles F JACOBS 22, single, b Washington
Cheers
AMBLY
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An online tree has the married surname of Ernest's sister as WECKESSER. married 1937. The tree has no info about her parents or brother. It does say she was probably born in Victoria, BC, Canada.
Her parents married in Victoria British Columbia, Canada in 1916:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/basicSearch
MARRIAGE: 8 Feb 1916, Vesty First Church, Victoria BC
Robert MOFFATT 27, Bachelor, Soldier, b Ireland, Protestant, resident of Victoria BC
Father: Thomas MOFFATT, Shoemaker and Mother: Catherine LIDDLE
Annie CALDWELL 27, Spinster, Domestic, b Ireland, Protestant, resident of Victoria BC
Father: Robert CALDWELL, Carpenter and Mother: Marey BAIRA
(Note: the database indexes Annie as CADWELL, but the actual marriage cert does say CALDWELL)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z10/
CEF: Attested 30 Sep 1918
Robert MOFFATT , age 26 yrs & 10mths
Residence: 1052 Mason Street, Victoria BC
Born: Caskel (or Gaskel?), Ulster, Ireland, 15 Jul 1889
NOK: Wife, Annie MOFFATT, same residential address
Occ: Carriage Builder
Currently in the Active Militia as a "Young Citizens Volunteer"
Description: (follow the link to see the Attestation form)
1921 Census: 2723 Graham St, Ward 2, Victoria City, BC
Head: Robert MOFFATT 32, b Ireland, imm 1913
Wife: Annie MOFFATT 32, b Ireland, imm 1912
Dau: Eleanor MOFFATT 4, b Victoria BC,
Lodger: Esther NUNN 53, b England
Cheers
AMBLY
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These look like good candidates in the 1901 Ireland Census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000606311/
1901: 15 Bellhouse Lane , Coleraine, Londonderry
Head: Catherine MOFFATT 51, widow, b County Derry
Dau: Bella MOFFATT 24, unmarried, b County Derry
Dau: Cassie MOFFATT 22, unmarried, b Coleraine
Dau: Ellen J MOFFATT 14, b Coleraine
Son: Robert MOFFATT 12, b Coleraine
Religion: Presbyterian
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000605613/
1901: 2 Bruces Terrace, Coleraine, Londonderry
Robert CALDWELL 60, widower, Carpenter
Sister: Mary CALDWELL 62, unm, Housekeeper,
Dau: Margaret CALDWELL 18, unm, Laundress,
Son: Samuel CALDWELL 15, Carpenter,
Dau: Annie CALDWELL 12, Scholar
All Born Co. Derry
Cheers
AMBLY
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Arthur & Eleanor Weckesser are on the the 1940 census together in Portland and both are on the Social Security Death Index, which you can find on www.familysearch.org. There appear to be obituaries available for them for a fee on www.obitsarchive.com
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Eleanor married Arthur Weckesser, third of six children to Wilhelm Weckesser and Ernestine (Meininger) Weckesser.
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If this had been put on the Londonderry or Ireland boards I would have been able to fill in some of the details at the time.
Robert Moffat was born 18 July 1888 Coleraine district (Aghadowey sub-district) according to his birth registration. His parents were Thomas Moffatt & Catherine Riddel. The place of birth on his attestation papers is supposed to be the townland of Cashel which is not far from the town of Coleraine. Robert has quite a few siblings and his brother Thomas had 14 children! (one of them was our neighbour) so there's a large family circle here.
Annie Caldwell was born 5 Jan.1889 Coleraine district, mother's name Baird.
I have more information on both families which I can post if anyone is interested.
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I have more information on both families which I can post if anyone is interested.
aghadowey, yes, please do!
I'm curious. You mention that Robert's birth record indicates that he was born in 1888 (which was the year that my family had provided me prior to my searching), but the scan of the attestation paper states a year of 1889. Which do you feel has a higher weight of accuracy?
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The birth registration, since it was done at the time, rather than his attestation papers filled in years later.
Do you want details of the Moffats or the Caldwells? or both?
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Do you want details of the Moffats or the Caldwells? or both?
Both would be ideal. Very little info was passed down to my generation about either. My uncle has a photo of Robert from WWI wearing his uniform and sitting on a horse (I'll need to have him scan that one), but aside from a few names and dates, that's about it.
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There is a HUGE connection here (and some abroad) but will take me a while to type it all out.
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Have nearly finished tryping up the Moffatt information- just have to type out details for about 20 marriages :)
Caldwell family details are more scattered among other things in my files so will take a bit longer.
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Thomas Moffat (c1804-1 Dec.1888), blacksmith, Craigmore
1. Thomas Moffat (c1847-1889) m.(1870) Catherine Riddle
2. Mary Jane Moffatt m.(3 May 1870 Ringsend Presbyterian Church) Alexander McDougal.
Ringsend Presbyterian Church, 3 May 1870, Alex McDougal, labourer, Macosquin, son of Thos. McDougal, labourer, to Mary Jane Moffat, Craigmore, dau. of Thos. Moffat, blacksmith
?3. Robert Moffatt (c1858) m.(1877) Sarah Carton
?4. James Moffat (?c1838-?23 June 1876), labourer, Cashel, m.(1 Dec.1866) Margaret “Peggy” Arthur
1. Robert John Moffat (1 Nov.1867-13 Oct.1882)
2. Nancy Moffat (15 Mar.1870 Ballykelly dist.)
3. Thomas Moffat (6 Apr.1872-18 May 1875)
Bapt. 30 Sept.1873 3rd Garvagh Pres. Ch.- birthdate 25 Mar.1872.
4. James Moffat (30 Apr.1874-1 June 1875)
5. Margaret Moffat (16 Mar.1876) m.(10 May 1894 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Hugh McConaghey
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 10 May 1894, Hugh McConaghey, labourerm Glencurb, son of Joseph McConaghey, labourer, to Maggie Moffet, Cashel, dau. of James Moffet, labourer. Wintesses: Samuel Clarke, Mary McConaghey.
?5. John Moffat (c1849-1930) m.(1872) Matilda Frizzell
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Thomas Moffat (c1847-22 Sept.1889) labourer, Cashel, m.(6 Sept.1870 Killaig Presb. Ch.) Catherine Riddle (c1848-1 Apr.1928)
Killaig Pres. Ch., 6 Sept.1870, Thomas Moffat, farm labourer, Craigmore, son of Thomas Moffat, blacksmith, to Catharine Riddle, Cashel, dau. of Thomas Riddle, weaver
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/Bellhouse_Lane/1518248
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Abbey_Street/589126
Ringsend Pres. Ch.: Erected by Catherine Moffatt. In loving memory of her husband Thomas Moffatt, late of Cashel, died 22 September 1889 aged 42 years. Also their daughters Annie, Sarah, Ellen Jane and Margaret. Also the above named Catherine Moffatt, who died 1st April 1928 aged 80 years
1. Thomas Moffat (22 Oct.1870-5 Dec.1950), fowl dealer, m.(23 Feb.1892 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Emily McClelland (c1876-10 July 1924)
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 23 Feb.1892, Thomas Moffet, labourer, Killmaconnel, son of Thos. Moffet, labourer, to Emily McClelland, Coleraine, dau. of Pattison McClelland, labourer. Witnesses: Thomas Campbell, Jane McClelland.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/Adams_Row/1518154
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Long_Commons/589660
1. Thomas Moffat (20 Nov.1892-12 Sept.1950)
2. Robert McLellan Moffat (c1894-31 Dec.1894)
3. Annie Moffat (30 Dec.1895) m.___
4. Robert Moffatt (28 Aug.1898) m. Annie May Stockman
5. Joseph Wilson Moffat (10 Oct.1900)- family
6. Tillie Ross Moffat (9 Feb.1903-7 Sept.1903)
7. John Moffat (c1907)
8. Elizabeth “Lily” Moffat (31 July 1908)
9. Minnie Moffat (7 Nov.1910-14 Nov.1910)
10. James Moffat (29 May 1912)
11. Minnie Moffat (21 Feb.1914-8 Mar.1931)
2. John Moffat (25 Sept.1871-12 Dec.1933) m.(4 June 1896) Ellen Allen (c1871 Co.Antrim)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Rural/Ballywillan/931909
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Portrush_Town/Bazaar_Street/130857
Moffatt John of 47 Causeway Street Portrush county Antrim carting contractor died 12 December 1933 Probate Belfast 27 February to John Riddell retired merchant and William Joseph Riddell merchant. Effects £809 14s. 5d.
1. James Moffat (25 Apr.1897-12 Apr.1963 Portrush)- 8 ch.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/Queen_Street/1518891
2. John Moffatt (13 Nov.1898-d.bef.1900)
3. John Moffatt (5 June 1900)
4. Ellen Moffat (10 Mar.1903)
5. Catherine Moffatt (c1906 Co.Antrim)
& 1 ch. d.before 1911
3. Margaret “Maggie” Moffat (25 Jan.1873) ?m. Robert McKeown
Ringsend Presbyterian Church, 12 Jan.1893, Robert McKeown, mechanic?, Coleraine, son of Nathaniel McKeown, post? Office, to Maggie Moffet, 19, Coleraine, dau. of Thomas Moffet, labourer. Witnesses: James McMullan, Eliza J. Stinson.
4. James Moffatt (26 Sept.1874-28 Aug.1947 Portrush) m.(4 June 1896) Eliza McKeown (c1870 Co.Derry)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Portrush_Town/Main_Street/131150
Moffatt James of 83 Main Street Portrush county Antrim foreman died 28 August 1947 at Hopefield Cottage Hospital Portrush Probate Belfast 11 November to William Robert Knox auctioneer and John Logan ministry of food official. Effects £768 16s. 6d.
1. John Moffatt (25 Mar.1897)
2. Mary “Minnie” Moffat (4 Feb.1900-23 Aug.1988 Portrush) m.(27 Oct. 1928 Portrush Pres. Ch.) Robert Henry Conley (1905-1964)
3. Lizzie Moffatt (30 Sept.1901) Birth: Eliza.
4. Rebecca Moffatt (17 May 1903-? 22 Mar.1964)
5. James Moffatt (11 Feb.1906)
5. Mary Eliza Moffatt (3 Apr.1875) m.(25 July 1895 Ringsend Presbyterian Church) Joseph Watt.
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 25 July 1895, Joseph Watt, labourer, Letterloan, son of John Watt, labourer, to Mary Eliza Moffett, 20, Cashel, dau. of Thos. Moffett, labourer. Witnesses: John Moffat, Maggie Watt.
6. Isabella “Bella” Moffatt (1 Feb.1878). ?m.(8 Dec.1908) Andrew McNeill
7. Catherine “Cassie” Moffat (10 Mar.1880)
8. Sarah Moffatt (28 Apr.1882-29 Nov.1897)
9. Annie Moffatt (17 Sept.1883-24 July 1884)
10. Ellen Jane Moffatt (9 Mar.1887)
11. Robert Moffatt (18 July 1888 Cashel) m. Annie Caldwell (5 Jan.1889 Coleraine dist.), Canada.
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Brilliant! Thanks so much, aghadowey.
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Robert Moffatt (c1858), pig dealer, Craigmore, m.(29 June 1877) Sarah Carton (c1867-9 Sept.1941)
1898- posting establishment, Ringsend.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Craigmore/1516629
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Craigmore/652518
1. Margaret Ann “Maggie” Moffat (15 July 1878) m.(23 Aug.1898 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) William John Holmes (c1871)- at least 7 ch.
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 23 Aug.1898, William John Holmes, grocer, Garvagh, to Maggie Moffat, Ringsend, dau. of Robert Moffat, posting establishment. Witnesses:Thos A. Marks, Eliza Carton.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Liscall/1520274
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Letterloan/Leck/588677
2. Mary Moffat (1 Nov.1880 Co)
3. Bella Moffat (25 June 1883) m.(29 July 1902 Ringsend Presb. Ch.) Alexander Nevin.
Ringsend Presb. Ch., 29 July 1902, Alexander Nevin, labourer, Glasgow, son of Thomas Turner, labourer, to Bella Moffat, 19 yrs, Craigmore, dau. of Robert Moffat, labourer. Witnesses: Thomas Moffat, Annie G. Morrow.
4. Thomas Moffat (3 Sept.1885-8 Jan.1970) m.(22 Aug.1907) Minnie Boyd (d.19 May 1965)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Craigmore/652499
Ringsend Pres. Ch.: Erected by her husband and family, in loving memory of Minnie Moffatt died 19th May 1965. Her daughter Cissie died 28th Jan.1940. Her husband Thomas Moffatt died 8 Jan.1970 And daughter Ina died 12th December 1996.
1. Mary Brown Moffat (26 Aug.1908) m.(15 Mar.1933 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Arthur Dunlop
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 15 Mar.1933, Arthur Dunlop, dock labourer, Killowen St. Coleraine, son of Arthur Dunlop, labourer, to Mary Brown Moffat. Ballywilliam, dau. of Thomas Moffat, fowl dealer. Witnesses: Harry Crawford, Anna B. Moffat.
2. Robert John “Bertie” Moffat (1 Dec.1910-1969) m.(14 Nov.1928) Martha “Mattie” Pyper (c1912-1970). Ch.: Martha “Meta” (c1931-1 Oct. 1936), Bertie (c1937-1953), James Alexander (c1940-26 Nov.1973).
Ringsend Pres. Ch.- flat stone on plt of Thomas & Catherine Moffatt (above): MOFFATT In loving memory of Bertie died 1969 aged 59 And his wife Mattie (nee Pyper) died 1950 aged 58. Also their daughter Meta died 1936 aged 4 and their son Bertie died 1955 aged 18. James Alexander died 1973 aged 33.
Ringsend Pres. Ch.: In loving memory of James A. Moffatt died 26th November 1973.
3. Hannah Brown “Anna” Moffat (7 June 1912) m.(27 Oct.1936 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) John Alexander Caldwell, Crevolea- 4 dau.
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 27 Oct.1936, John Alexander Caldwell, van driver, Crivolea, son of Joseph Caldwell, to Hannah Brown Moffatt, Ballywilliam, dau. of Thomas Moffatt, fowl dealer.
4. Sarah Maria “Cissie” Moffat (3 Aug.1913-28 Jan.1940).
5. Bessie E./Lizzie Moffat (1 Oct.1914) m.(6 Mar.1935 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) James Millar.
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 6 Mar.1935, James Millar, labourer, Balleney, son of Henry Millar, labourer, to Bessie E. Moffatt, 20, Ballywilliam, dau. of Thomas Moffatt, fowl dealer. Witnesses: John Henry, Cissie M. Moffatt.
6. Emily K. “Emma” Moffatt (22 Sept.1917-23 Nov.2000 Connecticut), U.S., m. Charles A. Hawley.
7. Jean Moffatt (1920?-bef.1996). Jeannie?
12. Thomasina “Ina” Moffatt (d.12 Dec.1996), unm.
5. Sarah Moffat (2 Mar.1888) m.(7 Oct.1903 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Thomas Gould, Crockindolg.
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 1 Oct.1908, Thomas Gould, labourer, Croghandolg, son of James Gould, labourer, to Sarah Moffitt, Craigmore, dau. of Robert Moffitt, dealer in pigs & car driver. Witnesses: William J. Gould, Jane Gould.
6. Annie Moffat (21 May 1890)
7. John Moffat (10 Dec.1884)
8. Robert John Moffat (27 July 1892-8 Dec.1893)
9. Robert “Bobby” Moffat (26 Aug.1894-26 Sept.1956)
10. John Moffat (13 Jan.1897-4 Feb.1898)
11. Albert Moffat (1 May 1900-7 May 1900)
12. James Moffat (1 May 1900-10 May 1900)
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John Moffat (c1849-28 May 1930), labourer, m.(1 Oct.1872) Matilda Frizzell (c1851-2 Sept.1922)
1884- Craiglea. 1885- Clintagh. Cashel.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Ballycaghan/1516349
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Ballycaghan/652222
Moffatt John of Cashel Macosquin Coleraine county Londonderry labourer died 28 May 1930 Probate Londonderry 28 January to Thomas Moody farmer. Effects £287 12s. 5d.
Ringsend Pres. Ch.: MOFFATT In loving memory of Matilda of Cashel died 1st Sept.1922 aged71 yrs. Her husband John, died 27 May 1930 aged 80 yrs. Matilda (Tillie) grand-daughter of above died 5th April 1987 aged 69 yrs. Her husband Robert John (Bobby) died 14th Jan.1989 aged 72 yrs.
1. Ann “Annie” Moffat (26 Aug.1873) m.(13 Nov.1894 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) John Woods- 7 ch.
2. Robert John Moffat (1 Nov.1874), labourer, Clintagh, m.(20 Feb.1896) Catherine Patterson (c1873).
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Clintagh/1516382
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Drumcroon/652418
1. Martha Moffat (11 Feb.1897) m.(17 Sept.1919 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Arthur Logan
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 17 Sept.1919, Arthur Logan, 20, millman, Muckamore Co.Antrim, son of John Logan, to Martha Moffett, Clintagh, dau. of Robert Moffett, labourer. Witnesses: Cecil? Crooks, Maggie Moore.
3. Mary Jane Moffat (1 Nov.1876)
4. Margaret Moffat (1878)
Bapt. 22 May 1884 St. Guaire’s Church of Ireland, Aghadowey
5. Alexander Moffat (c1879-19 Nov.1956), labourer, Kinneyglass, m.(17 Dec.1903 Killaig Pres. Ch.) Hannah Watt (c1881-5 Oct.1959)
Killaig Pres. Ch., 17 Dec.1903, Alexander Moffet, labourer, Kinneyglass, son of John Moffet, labourer, to Hannah Watt, servant, Killaig, dau. of Henry Watt, farmer..
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Killure/652441
1. John Moffatt (7 Feb.1905 Coleraine dist.-bef.1911).
2. Matilda “Tillie” Moffatt (3 Mar.1908-17 Nov.1993 Coleraine)
3. Robert “Bobby” Moffatt (15 Mar.1913)
4. Thomas “Tommy” Moffat (Oct.1915-Sept.1993 Portstewart)
6. Thomas Moffat (28 Feb.1883)
Bapt. 22 May 1884 St. Guaire’s Church of Ireland, Aghadowey
7. Martha Moffat (23 Feb.1885)
Bapt. 22 May 1884 St. Guaire’s Church of Ireland, Aghadowey
8. James Moffat (23 Aug.1887) m.(12 May 1910) Rebecca Doey (c1888) Birth: Henry.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Ballyclough/652230
1. Mary Moffat (14 Dec.1912)
2. James Moffat (19 Nov.1914)
9. Henry “Harry” Moffat (6 May 1889-1967) m.(15 Nov.1922 Ringsend Pres. Ch.) Mabel Gilmore (c1898-25 Feb.1928)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Ballycaghan/652226
Ringsend Pres. Ch., 15 Nov.1922, Henry Moffatt, labourer, Aghadowey, son of John Moffatt, labourerm to Mabel Gilmore, Laven?, dau. of Archie Gilmore, labourer. Witnesses: Andrew Moffatt, Sarah Graham
Ringsend Pres. Ch.: MOFFETT In loving memory of a dear father Henry 1889-1967.
1. Harry Moffat, Coleraine, m. Elizabeth “Lily” (d.1993)- 11 ch.
2. Martha Moffatt (d.20 Feb.2004) m. Bobby Dodwell- 7 ch.
10. Isabella Moffat (5 Sept.1891-31 Jan.1892)
11. Mathew Moffat (9 Aug.1893-9 Aug.1893)
12. William Moffat (30 Jan.1896) Birth Edward.
13. Andrew Moffat (c1896-2 Dec.1922)
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Had to post in sections (added a bit to 1st part)- told you there were LOTS of Moffatts in the area!
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Thomas Moffat (c1804-1 Dec.1888), blacksmith, Craigmore
Aghadowey, when it says "Craigmore", are you under the impression that that would be where he was currently living at the time the record was made, or where he was born (or grew up)?
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Craigmore was where he lived but not sure if that was his birthplace
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Hi aghadowey,
I know it's been a couple years, but I figured now is as good a time as any to circle back around. :)
By chance, would you still have data from the Caldwell line accessible in your records?
Regards,
~Gabriel