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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: LindaLily on Thursday 08 May 14 04:13 BST (UK)
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Looking for info and connections to this family. John Elliot was a shepherd who married Margaret Hart in 1815 in Ancrum. They had at least 10 children in various parishes in Roxburghshire, including my ggGrandmother Christian or Christina born about 1823 in Ashkirk who first married Armstrong Scott and then married John Murray. Other children of John & Margaret Elliot include Margaret (married James Hunter), Mary Hope (married William Irvin), Isabella (married Robert Elliot), Agnes (married Thomas Scott Elliot), Janet, Elizabeth, Andrew, John, & George. I found information online that indicates John & Margaret Elliot died in Cavers and are buried at Cavers and Kirkton Parish Church. Also mentioned was the Border Family History Society, St. Mary's Mill, Selkirk. Does this society still exist? Thanks! Linda in Calgary, AB, Canada
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Hi Linda
The link to the Border Family History Soceity www.bordersfhs.org.uk
Monica :)
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Thanks Monica,
I was just wondering if the address is now 64 Talisman Avenue, Galashiels if the location of the Society changed from St. Mary's Mill, Selkirk? And would they still have the family group sheets that the info originally came from? But I will email them and I am going to send for some of the cemetery transcriptions too.
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I am not local to there so not sure of location. But, I am sure an email to them will help you with this all :)
Monica
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Hi Linda
Yes, the Borders FHS still exist and are now based in Galashiels, although they're in the process of shifting their base address at the moment. The link Monica has given you will find them online, however. I'm sure they will do their best to help you.
Iandj
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Hi Linda, I have a connection to the Elliot family that you are researching. I am descended from Isabella Elliot, daughter of John Elliot, shepherd, and Margaret Hart.
Isabella married a Robert Elliot and they also had ten children. They lived at on a farm at Cavers Mains. We visited the farm and the nearby church a few years ago.
John Elliot d. Cavers Mains 11 Nov 1869, aged 80
Margaret Hart d. Shiplawcross 17 Jan 1840/49?, aged 47
I think we have the same list of offspring that you give and have birth years for them and dates of death for a couple e.g.
Janet Elliot ,their daughter, d. Dryburgh 22 Mar 1867, aged 33
George Elliot their son, d. Newcastle 10 Jan 1872, aged 41
Please let us know if you would like more information. For example...
we can go back a generation on John Elliot and two generations on Margaret Hart.
we have John Elliot's family bible, various samplers made by some of the girls and an early phto of Cavers Mains.
My connection is that my Margaret, a daughter of Isabella and Robert Elliot, married my gGrandfather Robert Douglas on Xmas day 1874.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Andy (and Steph) Douglas
(and we have to thank Steph - she is the one who has put in a lot of hard graft to get the information over the years.)
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Hi Andy & Steph,
So great to hear from you! I guess Andy & I are 4th cousins as my line is John Elliot, Christina Murray (nee Elliot), Leonard Murray, William Murray, Leonard Murray & then me. I have been looking for Christina Elliot's line for a long time. On a hunch I paid to view a will on Scotland's People and hit the jackpot. The will was for Mary Hope Irvin nee Elliot and it is 27 pages long...she listed all her siblings including my ancestor Christina and your ancestor Isabella. So I was able to check Mary's death record and find her parents were John Elliot & Margaret Hart. Again on Scotland's People, I then checked for John's death record that listed his parents as Andrew Elliot & Mary Murdie. I do not have anything further for Margaret Hart and would love to know the names of her parents. Also, mentioned in Mary's will is her nephew Stuart Douglas Elliot, solicitor, Supreme Court of Edinburgh....who I think was a son of Isabella & Robert? He was an executor along with Robert Elliot of Cavers Mains and Adam Smith of Bewlie Mains, Lilliesleaf. It is so exciting that you have John Elliot's bible and an early photo of the farm.(*) I would be very happy to have any information that you could share with me. Thanks!
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Sorry, I was so excited to find a cousin that I posted my email here. I did try to PM Andy with that information so hopefully I did that correctly.
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Hi
I help do research for Borders FHS. Our archives have not moved yet, they are at Old Gala House. The other address is a private address. Let me know if I can help.
Barbara
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Thanks Barbara,
It is just the place names I am trying to sort out just now. This family lived in various places in Roxburgh but one in particular that I can't seem to find is SheeplawCross in Cavers. Would this be a farm name?
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Not heard of that one! But we have a few old maps and of course the trees you were talking about. What year are we talking about here? I can have a look at the archives tomorrow just before I start packing up boxes for our move into the centre of Galashiels.
Barbara
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This Elliot family was recorded as being at Sheeplawcross between 1836 and 1845. In 1833, they were at Orchard Cottage. Found these place names on baptisms of the children performed by the Rev. James Strachan, minister of Cavers. Thanks for your help. It sounds like you will be busy with moving locations!
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Hi Linda,
Seems to be Shiplaw Cross in the census and on Margaret's gravestone. On this map in 1864 it is Sheeplaw Corse and just below Birneyknowe by Cavers
http://maps.nls.uk/view/74488599
another map from around the same time has it as Chapel O' Cross.
Barbara
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Thanks so much Barbara! I appreciate your help.