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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: ernlun on Sunday 11 May 14 15:22 BST (UK)
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Hi
i am looking any information on a Matilda Knipe of Cookstown Magherafelt area she was born around 1862 to 1868 i have checked through records on G.R.O.N.I. and the only birth cert i can find is one of a Matilda Knipe born 1868 gives her father as William but on her marriage cert it gives her father as James she was married in 1882 to a William J Brown. On the 1901 censuses it gives her age at 35.Any help on this would be appreciated as i am not sure which way to progress the family tree descendants from Matilda.
many thanks
Ernie
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Try ''Googling'' these names and see what you find.
James Knipe and Mary McKeon.
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Matilda Knipe born Nov 1868 would have been only 14 in 1882.
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Hi dathai
Thanks for the reply's this does look to be the Matilda i am looking for.Her date of birth seems to be 1859 earlier than i thought explains why it is not in GRONI with the date she passed away also there i was able to look up her death cert on GRONI to double check. The family had moved to the Carmoney area in the early 1900s and this is her place of death on the cert.Once again thank you, another bit solved in the family tree.
Ernie
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Hi
I am researching the family of James Knipe and Mary McKeown .... your Matilda was the sister of Ellen Jane, my great grand-mother.
It would be good to compare notes. Contact me at jrirish@hotmail.com
Wesley
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Hi, Wesley
The earliest i have been able to go back is Thomas Knipe 1792 have you been able to trace any further yourself and who did Ellen Jane marry.
Ernie.
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Hi,
A possibility; 14 Aug 1886 William Campbell married Ellen Jane Knipe in Molesworth Third Presbyterian Church, Cookstown.
Regards
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Hi
I'm only back to James Knipe / Mary McKeown (McQuone) Married 1853 Ballyneill
Ellen Jane did marry William Campbell
I have a note that Matilda was baptised on 27.01.1861
Any additional info you can provide on the Knipes would be much appreciated
Wesley
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Hi
Thomas married Margaret McGeagh they had six children that i can find, where was Matilda baptised?
Ernie
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Hi Ernie
From memory it was the Woods Chapel at Artrea
Can you link me from Thomas to James please
Wesley
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Hi
cant find were my source of the following is but these were there children that i have found.
JAMES KNIPE 1828 Ballyneill Co Londonderry
William Knipe 1834
Matilda Knipe 1836
Thomas Knipe 1839
Robert Knipe 1841
Nancy Knipe 1843
Ernie
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hi iread your post about patrick higney. im the grandaughter of his only daughter hannah he has a son john, rebecca was his mother i have her death cert an patricks birth and death i also have pics x
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Which Rebecca are we talking about please (can you provide dates and locations) ..... I'm not clear about this family line
Wesley
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Hi. I'm descended from the Thomas Knipe 1798 – 1892 and Margaret McGeagh 1814 – 1891 line.
Thomas is my 2nd. Great Grandfather. Their son, Robert T. Knipe b Aug. 24, 1841 - D 26 Oct. 1891 married Martha Anne Watson, they are my Great Grandparents. I would like to connect with anyone who has info on these lines!
Thank you, Peggy, Canada.
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hi i believe my great x3 grandfather was Roberts brother James born i think 1828 and my great x2 grandmother was his daughter Matilda born 1859 she live in the Cookstown Magherafelt area i came across an article on the Knipe twins, giants of Magherafelt and was wondering was there any connection they would have lived around the late 1700s ? In the photo i have attached the woman on the right of the photo is Matilda Brown nee Knipe and her daughter on the left my great grand mother the woman in the middle is Matilda s sister. Have you got any other information of this era or photos i would be interested in any family information to add to my family tree.
thank you,
Ernie
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Ernie
That's a fascinating picture .... I can see some resemblance in later generations
Can you name any of the five others in the pic (other than Matilda Knipe) for me please
Wesley
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Follow up to Ernie's? post, (it disappeared when I went to 'reply' so I don't have the info to refer to!).
Ernie, do you have a tree on ancestry.com that i could look at?
There were a great many Knipes in this area and much name repetition, Knipe named 'Robert, James, William, Matilda, Nancy, Thomas, pop up lots!'
My Robert, Robert Thomson Thompson Knipe 1841 – 1891 of Unagh, near Cookstown, had a brother James, b. Dec. 19, 1845 in Unagh, Parish of Lissan, near Cookstown,
Death Sep 1916 in Ireland. James Knipe married Mary Elizabeth Dale b. 1855, my research shows they did not have any children.
I'd love to see your tree and see where we might join up. Thanks, Peggy
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Peggy
Perhaps we can exchanges trees ......... I have some work to do to update mine and will forward to you in due course
Wesley
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Peggy
If you read the ernlun post of 7th June you will see that he has James Knipe born in 1828 whilst your date is 1845. (All his other dates seem to fit with yours) Can you please confirm that yours is correct.
I also have James marrying Mary McKeown (I will need to check my source which may have been dathai) ... my James had at least 9 children
Wesley
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hi Peggy you could be right the only document i have is Matilda s marriage cert naming her father as James Knipe the rest of my information was got from sources from the internet she was married in Magherafelt church of Ireland the children in the photo i do not know who they are going by other photos i have i would say the photo was taken in 1935
Ernie
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Ernie ... who was your grandmother?
Wesley
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Hi Wesley,
the younger woman in the photo was my great grand mother her name was Mary Bell nee Brown
Ernie
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Hi. Yes, there were many Knipes by those names!
I am positive on the info for my Knipes, and know they must have had cousins etc. with same names in the general area, so we may still have some overlap. In general, I enjoy learning about others with this name in this area, so would be happy to look at your trees on ancestry.com if you have them? We may have some Knipes in common. THank you, peggy
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Ernie
My mother who is still alive aged 97 remembers visiting a Mrs Bell at Carnmoney who was a cousin of her mother.
Wesley
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Hi Wesley
My great grand mother Mary Brown married a Robert Bell they both came from Cookstown area they moved to Whitehouse Newtownabbey around 1906. The only trace I could find of Matilda Brown in the 1911 census was in the Carmoney area. I remember my father once saying the photo was taken in the Whitewell area but can not be sure of this during the war he was evacuated to Cookstown and in the Carmoney area
Ernie
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hi
i am trying to find the connection in my family tree of the knipes from county tyrone and the brown(e)s
my grandad henry browns nan was a knipe from county tyrone
i am quite sure my great great grandad william brown married matilda knipe, but found 2 records of a matilda knipe born in 1859 and 1868 only to discover that a matilda knipe died at a young age and her sister mary knipe changed her name to matilda knipe
any help would be very very helpful
my family tree is proving very hard to discover
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Hi,
15 May 1882 William James Brown married Matilda Knipe in Magherafelt Church of Ireland. A Matilda Knipe was born on 6 Nov 1868 to William Knipe and Margaret Reid. The birth was registered in Cookstown. The familysearch site shows several other children for this couple. See http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e12/
Regards
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thankyou so much i have been searching for 2 years and as i know very little about the family ,as my grandad was raised by another family as his mum dies when he was 7
he never spoke about his real family .
my grandads father was a william james brown(e),born in ireland in 1888, he married bridget mcdonald in 1911 in belfast
i have the documents for them but the trail ends there
i know they lived in jordanstown upto 1928 when bridget died at the age of 36 or 38
his father william james brown remarried but dont know who he married and i cant find no information about bridget at all not even a death record
if you could help with any of this it would bring an end to me wondering which way to go
thankyou so much for information you have given me already
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Sorry, cannot find any later information.
Regards
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hi
thanks for trying , i have been hitting brick walls at every corner
think a trip to ireland is on the cards :)
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hi i have a copy of the marriage certificate i will send you as said in an early post they were married on the 15th May 1882 i could only find 8 children in my research did not come across a William. if you have any other information on this line i would be interested.
Ernie.
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hi
just released your cant put an attachment to a pm so i will post it here hope it works.
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hi thanks for the the attatchment of the marraige of william and matilda
i have the same dates as yourself but on the marraige certificate it states that matildas father was a james knipe, i have the same record and matildas father was william knipe who married a margaret reid
there are a few other people on the forum who have the same info where matildas father is william on some documents and james on other documents
i am a bit unsure which one is which
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Hi
I am not sure were i got this from but i have him in my records as James who married a Mary McKeown without proper documents or remembering were i got this information from i can not be totally sure myself will try and look back. i remember looking at the Reid connection at the start of my research but then ruled it out for some reason. if you find any thing else out could you let me know in my records i have James father as Thomas Knipe.
Ernie
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hi
looked at the records on family search and that Matilda Knipe who's mother would have been a Reid would have only been 14 years old at time of marriage the marriage certificate states full age.
Ernie
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Hi
I found a record stating a matilda knipe born 1868 died at a young age and her elder sister mary born 1859 decided to change her name to matilda, thats why there is no record of a matilda knipe born 1859 only the proper matilda born 1868
Its so difficult as back then people changed names and there ages so easy!!!
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hi
what county's were the the both Matilda's born in? Co Tyrone or Co Londonderry
Ernie
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hi i cant remember exactly as i have looked for that many knipes , i will look through paperwork and let you know a s a p
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hi
did you ever get a chance to find out what county's they where born in
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hi
did you ever get a chance to find out what county's they where born in
hi
they was born in county tyrone
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hi
sorry it hasn't uploaded will try again
ernie
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ok thanks
i will try and attempt to upload my picture
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Matilda s daughter
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Matilda s daughter