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Title: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwicatz on Tuesday 13 May 14 03:51 BST (UK)
Hello There

I have Elizabeth Anne MCKENZIE to married Arthur WATSON 1914 - Ref No 4914.
Elizabeth was born I think 19 February 1893 in Greymouth, West Coast, New Zealand - Her parents were Ellen Eliza Andrews and Murdoch McKenzie. Elizabeth went to Australia and 'married' there but we don't know what name she used. Maybe she just left Arthur and went to to Oz. There's a thought that she left children in NZ but haven't found any children registered to the couple.

Comments/suggestions welcome :)
Regards
Jan
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: saddles on Tuesday 13 May 14 04:31 BST (UK)
The Genealogical Society of Victoria has the following for a death, you need to contact them
for more details using the reference.

 Name: WATSON, ELIZABETH ANNE
 Place: NUMURKAH
 State: Victoria
 Country: Australia
 Date: 15Dec1962
 Event: Death
 Source: Cemetery Transcript Catholic
 Reference: CTH10472 P 114
 Cross Ref:
 Held By: Genealogical Society of Victoria
 Level 6
 179 Queen Street
 MELBOURNE VIC 3000  Australia
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 13 May 14 04:54 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

Looks like your couple divorced in 1929.  There is a Divorce File held at Christchurch (with the marriage certificate).   Unfortunately, this file can not be viewed until 2029 due to the 100 year restriction.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z7w/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 13 May 14 05:07 BST (UK)
1914/4914 Elizabeth Ann  McKenzie to Arthur  Watson  exact date 9/10/1914

Children will not be on BDM's as the marriage is after the 100 cut of date\

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwicatz on Tuesday 13 May 14 09:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jan

Looks like your couple divorced in 1929.  There is a Divorce File held at Christchurch (with the marriage certificate).   Unfortunately, this file can not be viewed until 2029 due to the 100 year restriction.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z7w/

Hello KHP
Thanks so much for this! Excited!
Regards
Jan



Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwicatz on Tuesday 13 May 14 09:36 BST (UK)
1914/4914 Elizabeth Ann  McKenzie to Arthur  Watson  exact date 9/10/1914

Children will not be on BDM's as the marriage is after the 100 cut of date\

Cheers Janette
Thanks so much for this. So we now know she went to Oz after 1929, perhaps and that if she 'lived in sin' it was her own choice.

Love Goodnight Kiwi - brings back so many memories!!
Regards
Jan
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwicatz on Tuesday 13 May 14 09:38 BST (UK)
The Genealogical Society of Victoria has the following for a death, you need to contact them
for more details using the reference.

 Name: WATSON, ELIZABETH ANNE
 Place: NUMURKAH
 State: Victoria
 Country: Australia
 Date: 15Dec1962
 Event: Death
 Source: Cemetery Transcript Catholic
 Reference: CTH10472 P 114
 Cross Ref:
 Held By: Genealogical Society of Victoria
 Level 6
 179 Queen Street
 MELBOURNE VIC 3000  Australia
Thank you for this - well get cert to make sure it's her.
Regards
Jan
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 13 May 14 10:08 BST (UK)
Hi Jan,

Might pay to hold fire before you send off for that death certificate and investigate further.

There is an Electoral Roll entry for 1954, State of Victoria, Murray, Numurkah, for an Elizabeth Anne Watson married to a James Watson.

Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwicatz on Tuesday 13 May 14 10:15 BST (UK)
Hi Jan,

Might pay to hold fire before you send off for that death certificate and investigate further.

There is an Electoral Roll entry for 1954, State of Victoria, Murray, Numurkah, for an Elizabeth Anne Watson married to a James Watson.

Cheers
KHP


I've found out in the last 1/2 hour hat she died in NSW in 1974, but no last name is known :(
Regards
Jan
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 13 May 14 10:36 BST (UK)
The only one that comes up on Ancestry for 1974 in NSW, is for an Anne Elizabeth Boyd born 1881,  I don't have resources for Australia.   I just searched using the first two names and the year 1974.

Hope someone can help you to get further.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: NZ Marriage Reg - any way to tell from Ref No the place where it happened?
Post by: jorose on Tuesday 13 May 14 17:37 BST (UK)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births
The most likely would be Elizabeth Anne Timms (registered 1974, d. Thirroul, parents unknown) - the other Elizabeth Ann(e) entries have non-matching parents.

I do not see a matching birth (up to 1913) or marriage (up to 1963) for this woman in NSW (but of course could have taken place elsewhere or outside those years).