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Title: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Friday 16 May 14 14:47 BST (UK)
hi all, i need some big help! trying to find ancestors living in glamorgan in 1891. im looking for

jane brown (wyatt) 41 taunton
george brown 4 glamorgan
polly (posb mary) 1 glamorgan
father is thomas brown but i suspect he wasnt living with them.

they had a son alfred charles brown born in june 1891 and the address on birth cert is

6 abingdon street
cadaxton

 
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 18 May 14 02:07 BST (UK)
1891 RG12 /4406/ folio 15
Abingdon Street 
Town - Cadoxton
Parish - Cadoxton Juxta Barry
Reg district Cardiff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadoxton,_Vale_of_Glamorgan
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/CadoxtonJuxtaBarry/

Numbers only go from 113 -130 Abingdon Street.  Don't know if any of the census is missing or not transcribed.  Cannot find your Brown family.

Regards Cas
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Sunday 18 May 14 21:11 BST (UK)
thanks for looking cas. is there anyway i can look at the original census? might be easier to find?
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 18 May 14 21:16 BST (UK)
Possibly/surely they are held in -The National Archives. Unsure if you could view the originals though ??? Put up a post to ask, someone will know.

Cas
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: trellisick on Sunday 18 May 14 21:52 BST (UK)
All very strange, I have the 1897 street directory for barry & cadoxton & the street has only 15 houses in that year? (1897). Trellisick. also I cannot find the names anywhere else in barry or cadoxton, by the way, you have been spelling the name as cadaxton. lol.
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Sunday 18 May 14 22:51 BST (UK)
number 6 still exists because it was sold in 2006 according to zoopla. i found a mary and george brown on the census but they r living in barry rd, which abingdon street leads off.
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: syljun on Monday 19 May 14 07:28 BST (UK)
What was Thomas Brown's occupation? according to 1897 Barry Directory there are two persons of that name.
1. Thomas Brown living at 7 Romilly Road, Barry - Pilot.
2. Thomas Brown living at 19 York Place, Barry - Pilot's assistant.
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Monday 19 May 14 08:53 BST (UK)
on alfred charles brown birth cert he is a miner, but on the 1901 census he is a carpenter

Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Monday 19 May 14 08:54 BST (UK)
in 1901 they are living in 33 llanelly street , roath cardiif
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Monday 19 May 14 08:58 BST (UK)
hello all,
please could someone find out who was living in an address on the 1891 census?

6 abingdon street
barry

i have an ancestor born there in 1891 but a couple of months after the census was completed.

cant find the address on any searches in 1891
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 19 May 14 09:12 BST (UK)
The houses are not numbered in the street in the 1891 census.  This is the ref no for part of the street  RG12 Piece  4406 Folio 15 Page    23

Kay
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 09:14 BST (UK)
Duplicate topic for info

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=687069.msg5313893
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 09:32 BST (UK)
The houses are not numbered in the street in the 1891 census.  This is the ref no for part of the street  RG12 Piece  4406 Folio 15 Page    23

Kay

How can you assume they are not numbered? Previous leads into Barry Road, at if I remember stops 112, then at 113 starts Abingdon Road.  Did the enumerator just count families in houses and numbered them, along streets  ???  I thought the house number/street or house name was given.  Can any enlighten.

1891 RG12 /4406/ folio 15
Abingdon Street 

Cas  ???
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 09:37 BST (UK)
number 6 still exists because it was sold in 2006 according to zoopla. i found a mary and george brown on the census but they r living in barry rd, which abingdon street leads off.

You have found your people in Barry Road. If they are there in 1891 census, we cannot move them to 6 Abingdon Road.

Regards Cas
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 09:50 BST (UK)
Have asked Moderator to merge threads.

Moderator Comment: Topics merged now.
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 19 May 14 11:04 BST (UK)
Sorry - I should have said that the part of the street that I found had no house numbers listed by the enumerator - Unless I am looking at the wrong street :)   ??? 

The first number on the page is the number on the schedule of that enumeration district.  Check the heading at the top of the column.   I don't think it is a house number.    The enumerator would usually have included a number with the address if one was obvious.   Nmbers were included for the street in 1901 and number 6 was unoccupied.

Kay
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 11:30 BST (UK)
Check the census there are numbers next to the Street. Far left column

1891 RG12 /4406/ 15
Abingdon Street 

Regards Cas
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Monday 19 May 14 15:27 BST (UK)
The houses are not numbered in the street in the 1891 census.  This is the ref no for part of the street  RG12 Piece  4406 Folio 15 Page    23

Kay

How can you assume they are not numbered? Previous leads into Barry Road, at if I remember stops 112, then at 113 starts Abingdon Road.  Did the enumerator just count families in houses and numbered them, along streets  ???  I thought the house number/street or house name was given.  Can any enlighten.

1891 RG12 /4406/ folio 15
Abingdon Street 

Cas  ???
there are a brown family living on barry rd with a daughter mary and son george, could it be them?
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 May 14 20:38 BST (UK)
Very possible, if you have found them. Alfred was not born until after census. They could have moved to the next street.
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Monday 19 May 14 23:07 BST (UK)
Very possible, if you have found them. Alfred was not born until after census. They could have moved to the next street.
the ages dont match up though with the 1901 census, living in roath
Title: Re: 6 abingdon street
Post by: Browny2004 on Sunday 08 June 14 12:01 BST (UK)
could someone please have a look and tell me the names of the brown family living in barry rd in 1891? they had 2 children , mary and george

namy thanks