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Title: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 18:34 BST (UK)
hi everybody.. i am looking to see if anybody can help me please or even link  up with me. somebody found my great great grandfather in the 1901 census of Ireland with his wife living at no 1 Ballygibbon Blarney Cork with some of the children. i was also told  Patrick  married Abina Corkerry in 1869 in cork. nothing could be found for 1911 census. thankyou
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:08 BST (UK)
Hello and welcome  :)

Here they are in 1901 for reference http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Blarney/Ballygibbon/1099209/

Heywood
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:15 BST (UK)
hi yes i have that just wondering  where they all went... crack on i will try and thankyou ;)
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi,
I posted that to help others - we can then look for children etc.

Before I post, do you have the couple in the marriage registration index?

Did the family stay in Ireland or emigrate?

Heywood
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:27 BST (UK)
oh ok sorry i am new here Albina died in 1919 in cork ireland.  i know that one of the sons Jeremiah Joseph O'shea went to england and was  married in marylebone in 1887. as for the others i have no idea
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:33 BST (UK)
Here is Abina in marriage indexes https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY33-H2R

You can search on Family Search for Patrick Shea with same details. You can send for a photocopy if the entry for 4 euros
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY33-H2R

https://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/Marriage_Civil_Partnership_Form-English.doc
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:38 BST (UK)
thankyou
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:41 BST (UK)
Do you have the death certificate for Abina?
I can see this one https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRLM-G62 but she would be too young. :-\
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:43 BST (UK)
no i dont... i only got the  information i gave a few days ago
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:45 BST (UK)
yes wronge abina.... finding the name is more common than i thought
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:46 BST (UK)
There seem to be a few of that name  :D

Ages were quite flexible but the 1919 one seems just too young. You could check with the person who gave you the information.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: Sinann on Monday 26 May 14 19:48 BST (UK)
There seem to be a few of that name  :D

683 with that first name
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 19:53 BST (UK)
lols  needle haystack springs to mind
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 19:54 BST (UK)
There seem to be a few of that name  :D

683 with that first name

I was only looking for O'Shea/Shea. Presumably, it is predominantly a Cork first name?
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: Sinann on Monday 26 May 14 20:20 BST (UK)
Sorry 683 Abina's just tried again and got 772. Think I had Cork in the birthplace first time. so yes very Cork.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 20:26 BST (UK)
Gillypop,
Is your interest from Jeremiah? Do you know whether the rest of the family stayed in Cork?

Heywood
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 20:27 BST (UK)
Oshea is the surname....  there are so many  osheas
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 20:30 BST (UK)
Hi Hewood...... i have stuff on jeremiah.. marriage  the children and  census record. it was more his parent's Patrick and Abina i was wonderng about. i only know that Jeremiah went to london.. i have no idea if anyone else left cork
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 20:34 BST (UK)
Thanks,. That's what I meant.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 20:40 BST (UK)
A possible death here- age still not that good though https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR27-WNL
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 20:41 BST (UK)
sorry i got jeremiahs marriage year wronge... it was 1897.. mental block
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 20:56 BST (UK)
More possibilities  ::)

Ellis Island site http://www.ellisisland.org

Shows Bridget O Shea 30 yrs and Nellie 26 yrs emigrating in 1920. If this were Bridget and Ellie, both ages are 6 yrs out.
The next of kin is cousin Patrick O' Connor of Shamrock Terrace Blarney and they are going to brother in law Mr J Stanmore in Philadelphia   :-\
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: Sinann on Monday 26 May 14 21:15 BST (UK)
We know they moved as the place they were living in 1901 is also there in 1911, do we know if parts of 1911 are missing for Cork as there are parts missing for other parts of the country.
I tried so many different searches I'm confusing myself at this stage, but nothing even looking possible.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 21:21 BST (UK)
thankyou haywood.... anything is possible regarding their ages... nobody knew how old they  were. i guess it is possible it is them as  i know Jeremiahs own 2 daughters went to PA in the 1920's
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 21:35 BST (UK)
thankyou haywood.... anything is possible regarding their ages... nobody knew how old they  were. i guess it is possible it is them as  i know Jeremiahs own 2 daughters went to PA in the 1920's

Have you got their record?who did they go to?

Patrick O' Connor is in Ballygibbon in 1901 :-\
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Monday 26 May 14 21:38 BST (UK)
i have no records yet.. only just recieved this information...... that will be the next thing ordering up  certificates
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 21:50 BST (UK)
Ellis island is a free site. I just wondered if Jeremiah's children went to the same person.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 22:21 BST (UK)
 :D :D :D

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Blarney/Telephone_Terrace/383683/

So I would say that the two girls did emigrate.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: Sinann on Monday 26 May 14 22:48 BST (UK)
Well done.

Abbey mmmm interesting.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 22:54 BST (UK)
Well done.

Abbey mmmm interesting.

She married as Abbey and some children's baptisms have Abbey, I think - on Family Search.
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: Sinann on Monday 26 May 14 22:58 BST (UK)
Well done.

Abbey mmmm interesting.

She married as Abbey and some children's baptisms have Abbey, I think - on Family Search.
I should of noticed that.
She is still married so where is Patrick?
Could this be him http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Carrigrohane_Beg/Currabeha/382769/
The O is missing but he's a shoemaker, can read but not write is married, age close.
And where is Daniel ?
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 23:09 BST (UK)
That looks very possible -well done
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 May 14 23:15 BST (UK)

Daniel would be about 18 in 1911 so could be anywhere

Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Tuesday 27 May 14 18:28 BST (UK)
thankyou ;)
Title: Re: Patrick O'shea
Post by: gillypop on Tuesday 27 May 14 18:33 BST (UK)
thanks to all helping me ABINA ABBY  she seems to flit a bit between the 2... back on it later thankyou  all