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Title: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: thismypast on Thursday 29 May 14 10:36 BST (UK)
william bowles raynor born about 1803,looking for his birth says on the 1861 census that he was born in radford nottingham can't find him  there,but there is a john raynor there who i think is his brother baptized in radford father joseph mother ann.

on the 1861 census radford nottingham  joseph and ann have 3 daughters they were baptized in west yorkshire huddersfield

also joseph was a shoemaker and policeman just like william, joseph came originally from east markham nottinghamshire
been look on and off for about 30 years any help would be much appreciated
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: trystan on Thursday 29 May 14 11:41 BST (UK)
Hiya,

I'd like to personally say 'Welcome to RootsChat'  :) - I really hope you manage to find more about your William Bowles Raynor and also all the other bits in your family tree you are looking for. Somebody should be able to give you ideas and answers soon I'm sure.

All the best,
Trystan
RootsChat Co-Founder
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: Jolee on Thursday 29 May 14 12:01 BST (UK)
The probate of his will states probate granted 27th March
RAYNOR WILLIAM BOWLES the will of William B Raynor late of 39, Broad Street in the Town of Nottingham - GENTLEMAN who died 13/03/1874 at 39, Broad Street was proved at Nottingham by Joseph Berrington of Great-Freeman-Street Nottingham Inspector of Police the sole executor.
Effects under £100

Have you tried the Police Museum they keep a lot of details on their past policeman it may be possible to get details from them,  or the local library , also a good source of info, I am wondering if this address was a rest home for retired policeman as he had a police inspector in charge of his will.
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: SWar on Thursday 29 May 14 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi,

Could this be your William
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J33N-1WP
Sue
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 29 May 14 16:37 BST (UK)
William Bowles Raynor seemed to have married a Mary Yorkelse at Saint Mary,Nottingham on 22 Sep 1822.
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 29 May 14 19:58 BST (UK)
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat!

Is these the baptisms of his children?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NGX9-2YC
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NGX3-MZ7

Heather
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: bevj on Thursday 29 May 14 20:04 BST (UK)
There is also this William born at the right time:

County   Nottinghamshire
Place   Blyth
Church   St Mary and St Martin Bt
RegisterNumber   
DateOfBirth   
BaptismDate   26 Sep 1802
Forename   William
Sex   -
FatherForename   Geo
MotherForename   Elizabeth
FatherSurname   RAYNOR
MotherSurname   
Abode   Hodsock
FatherOccupation   
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: thismypast on Friday 30 May 14 10:17 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone who has replied still trying to work out how to reply individually to posts thanking everyone
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 30 May 14 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi there

You don't need to thank us all individually,each time anyone replies here we are all notified by email.

So just one thank you to all of us is fine thanks  ;D

Carol
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: maysurreywarwnotts on Friday 17 July 15 21:10 BST (UK)
pictures
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 17 July 15 23:28 BST (UK)
pictures

Sorry maysurreywarwnotttts ,did you intend to add some pictures here?

Or need any help with this thread?
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: maysurreywarwnotts on Saturday 18 July 15 00:01 BST (UK)
i was trying to send pictures on a different posting and sent it to wrong one
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: bridget1 on Monday 10 April 17 22:47 BST (UK)
Hi

This may be 2 years too late but....

William Bowles Raynor is the grandfather x 3 of my husband. I found a christening record on Find My Past for 16/2/1806 at St Mary Nottingham. No father is stated on the record and his mother is listed as Catharine Raynor. So, he may be illegitimate.

If you traced his parents any further I would be happy to find out any more info.

Thanks Bridget
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 10 April 17 23:01 BST (UK)
Hi Bridget,

The original poster hasn't been on Rootschat since Nov 2016,but as long as he hasn't changed his email address,should be notified that we have posted here,and fingers crossed will come back online and answer you. ;D

Fingers crossed!

Carol
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: wasthismypast on Sunday 11 June 17 17:28 BST (UK)
Hi

This may be 2 years too late but....

William Bowles Raynor is the grandfather x 3 of my husband. I found a christening record on Find My Past for 16/2/1806 at St Mary Nottingham. No father is stated on the record and his mother is listed as Catharine Raynor. So, he may be illegitimate.

If you traced his parents any further I would be happy to find out any more info.

Thanks Bridget

think you may have been trying to contact me about william bowles raynor
i do not have my old email address so i registered again with roots chat with a similar named account.
which is called wasthismypast
i still cannot find this birth, but i think it is joseph and ann
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: timraynor on Monday 13 March 23 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm just starting to research William Bowles Raynor and came across these interesting posts.  My tree is:

George Raynor  1902-2002 (my grandfather)
William Downing Raynor  1876-1961
Edwin Raynor  1847-1927
William Raynor  1826-1900
William Bowles Raynor  1802-1874

I know these posts are quite old now but I would be really keen to chat to anyone else who has also been looking for details on him.  I've found some interesting background information on his time in the police from a book called "Victorian Nottingham - Police courts and prisons".

Thanks,

Tim

Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Tuesday 30 May 23 15:41 BST (UK)
i also am related to william bowles raynor youngest daughter charlotte
i know williams bowles father is joseph raynor and william bowles had 3 sisters

i tried to add attachments but could not wrong type of file will try again later
also there is a picture i used before on one of my many rootschat accounts of most likley of willliam bowles raynor
himself
i keep changing email address and lose the accounts with them
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Tuesday 30 May 23 16:09 BST (UK)
thismypast was one of my old accounts
the picture associated my old account is most likely of william bowles raynor himself it was on a piece of glass,
i also have some old newspaper clippings
have not been using rootschat for sometime, saw your post thought i would reply
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Tuesday 30 May 23 18:28 BST (UK)
i also am related to william bowles raynor youngest daughter charlotte
i know williams bowles father is joseph raynor and william bowles had 3 sisters

i tried to add attachments but could not wrong type of file will try again later
also there is a picture i used before on one of my many rootschat accounts of most likley of willliam bowles raynor
himself
i keep changing email address and lose the accounts with them
just posted a pdf hope it worked
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Wednesday 31 May 23 17:07 BST (UK)
just adding another image 
mary raynor died sunday 14th 1847
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: timraynor on Wednesday 31 May 23 22:25 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the information you've posted, that's really interesting.  If you've got any other details of the William Bowles line, I'd be really keen to see them.

Do you know what the date of the paper cutting is?  I'd not got any details of William Bowles's father, so that's fantastic, as it not only gives his name but his date of birth (roughly) and the date he died.

I've attached an exert I found in a Victorian Nottingham book that describes a bit more about his time in the police force.  I've also got a picture of him, which I'll dig out and post.
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Thursday 01 June 23 22:36 BST (UK)
only resently found out about joseph raynor
i got alot of info on wm bowles raynors dad from
the british newpaper archive
>advanced seach >exact seach
theres a lot about wm bowles raynor superintendent there also
and here are some more attachments
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Thursday 01 June 23 23:41 BST (UK)
sorry dont know date of cutting my brother took the photo of a image from nottm archive or the nottm ibrary
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: timraynor on Friday 02 June 23 10:04 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the photo that's really interesting and is definitely a match for the photo I've got (attached).  No worries on the date of the news paper archive, I'm sure I can track that down.  I've got a snippet too, that talks about his funeral.  I think I'll have a go at looking through more of the news paper archives, as it sounds like there's some good information there.

Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: timraynor on Friday 02 June 23 10:04 BST (UK)
This is the cutting I've got.
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Friday 02 June 23 10:38 BST (UK)
thank you would not have recognized him
your cuttings look like some i have but having trouble posting trying again
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Friday 02 June 23 10:48 BST (UK)
best way for me the post is one at a time
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Friday 02 June 23 10:48 BST (UK)
another one
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Friday 02 June 23 10:50 BST (UK)
another one
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: timraynor on Friday 02 June 23 10:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks, that information is fantastic. 

I'll just drop you a private message on RootsChat with my email address, as RootsChat only allows small attachments.
Title: Re: william bowles raynor looking for his birth
Post by: mayofkent on Friday 02 June 23 11:23 BST (UK)
attachments