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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Channel Islands Lookup Requests => Topic started by: melia on Thursday 29 May 14 21:05 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help with the marriage of a Charles Tapper (from England) to Jane ? maybe around 1841 but not sure.
Have them in 1841 with a 13 year old son and a 3 month old son.
Also would like to find them in the 1851 census.
Have found George in index as age 10 step son and Elizabeth 6 step daughter.
Can anyone give me the family.
As I live in England any help on this family is greatly appreciated
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Hi the children are shown as:-
Charles Vandenburgh 39 Married occ Publican b England
George Tapper 10 b St Saviour, CI
Elizabeth 6 b St Saviour CI
William Truscott 54 Married occ Coachman b England
Residing at Royal Oak Inn, Cheapside, St Helier
Census Ref HO107/2527/96/33
Keyboard86
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Thankyou very much. No Jane there though who was their mother.
Do you have access to the 1861 census by any chance I cant find them here in England in 1861 but they are here in 1871.
Not sure when they arrived here yet
Amelia
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:) Hi Amelia, Elizabeth aged 17 is an Inmate in The Jersey General Hospital in 1861 RG09/4400/53/13
When you say " They are here in 1871" where is here? as George looks to be on 1871 (Unless another one) b Jersey and St HILLIER (on my site) in 1881 married to an Ann, also born Jersey
Census Ref RG10/1191/138/12 and RG11/1211/104/25
Keyboard86
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Hi Keyboard
If I have the right people in 1871 I have living in Southampton England
George 29
Anne 39
Deleanor L 7(not sure if that is transcribed right)
George 4
John Jodd 18 (says son in law)
Mary Jodd 14 (says daughter in law)
Edward Jodd 12 (says son in law)
something not quite right with the relationship I think.
Amelia
ps thank you. So you can't find George in 1861 either
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:) No I cannot find as yet George & Charles, but Charles Tapper aged 44 occ Seaman b St Helier is married to an Elizabeth 32 b Southampton with daughters Elizabeth S? 14 and Maria aged 8 at Millbrook, South Stoneham, Hants, think Elizabeth was a Brinton as Elizabeth jnr aged 3 is with a Perry/Brinton family in 1861 as niece
1861 RG09/684/117b/58 and RG10/1199//60/13
Keyboard86
PS the son in law John is shown as JHON GOOD with George b 1843 occ Clicker Boot and family in 1881 RG11/1211/104/25
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thank you very much
Amelia
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St Helier baptisms
Baptism May 12th 1844
Birth Apr 30th 1844
Elizabeth Tapper
Father Charles
Mother Jane De Letac
Father's Occupation Jardinier (Gardener)
Godparents Thomas Messervy and Elizabeth Beaugie
St Saviour marriage
TAPPER
22 Apr 1824 Charles (St Saviour) and Jeanne De L'Etat (St Saviour)
Other Tapper baptisms
26 Jul 1825 Charles William son of Charles and Jane De L'Etat
06 Jul 1828 Charles Francis son of Charles and Jane
05 Apr 1835 John son of Charles and Jane
19 Feb 1837 Thomas son of Charles and Jane Deletat
St Helier Tapper burials
20 09 1824 Jane Betsey daughter of Charles
29 07 1825 Charles William son of Charles
St Saviour Tapper burials
21 Nov 1837 Thomas (Son Of Charles) (10 Months)
05 Apr 1838 Francois (Son Of Charles) (3 Years)
13 Jan 1839 Jane Rebecca (Daughter Of Charles) (11 Years)
13 Feb 1839 Jean (Son Of Charles) (4 Years)
28 Mar 1840 Anne (Daughter Of Charles) (6 Months)
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oh wow. Thank you very much for all of those.
All to do with the family I am following.
The direct line though goes through the child that appears in the 1841 census with Charles & Jane.
Two children are there Charles aged 13 and George 3 months.
George is my direct line. I see you haven't found his baptism though.
I notice the burials are notably gathered around a couple of years. Do you know if there was an epidemic of something around then in Jersey.
Also in 1851 George and his younger sister are living as stepson and step daughter with a "Charles Vandenburgh".
Do you have a marriage for this man and I presume Jane and possibly a burial for Georges dad "Charles Tapper"
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I have now found George's baptism indexed under Tanner, along with that of his sister Ann
TANNER
18 Mar 1840 Ann daughter of Charles and Jane
04 Apr 1841 George William son of Charles and Jane
George married Ann de la Cour
St Helier baptism
Baptism 28/09/1864
Birth 13/08/1864
Delina Louisa Tapper
Father George William
Mother Ann De La Cour
Father's occupation Plumber
Godparents Father and Mother
Ann had previously been married to Edward Todd/Lodd/Good? depending on which census you look at, in the 1861 for Jersey they are Lodd. Edward Jnr's age is given as 11 but I think it should probably be 11 months, although if this is his baptism (see below) their maths wasn't very good.
St Helier baptism
Baptism 20-11-1859
Birth 11-09-1859
Edward Charles Zadd
Father Edward
Mother Ann de la Cour
Father's occupation Mariner
Godparents Father and Mother
Mary Ann's baptism (2/12/1857, birth 18/10/1857) also gives her name as Zadd.
That's about all I can do from in front of my computer, the rest will have to wait until I can get at the registers but that won't be for about 3 weeks. I'll PM you if I find anything else.
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Oh thank you so much.
I had been struggling with this family mainly because George and Anns son who is the next link to follow has a variety of names!!!
He first appears in 1871 census in England as Charles H born Jersey age 0 or 1. After that he is 1881 Harry born Southampton, 1891 Henry, 1901 Harry, 1911 not found him yet.
So not sure yet if he was born in Jersy or England.
Best regards Amelia
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I think he was born in Southampton
Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
Tapper Charles Henry Southampton 2c 14
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ah yes!!
Amelia
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Charles Vandenburg and Jane Delatat married in the St Helier Town Church on the 15th of July 1845.
His details are - aged 30, bachelor, occupation Publican, living in St Helier, born in Portsea, Hampshire, father Charles Vandenburg, occupation Agent.
Her details - aged 42, widow of Charles Tapper, living in St Helier, born in St Saviour (which she wasn't), father James Delatat, occupation Sailor.
Charles Tapper died in St Helier between August 1842 and February 1844, it is recorded in the indexes on page 95 so the death would have occurred very close to the end of that period.
Delatat and its' many variations is not a common name here and the only possibility for Jane's baptism was in the parish of St Lawrence on the 12th of September 1802. She was the daughter of Jacques De L'Etat and Jeanne Le Maistre. (Jacques is usually translated as James and not Jack)
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Thank you so much for those details.
I did find a marriage for Jane and Charles which says "Jeanne" so this does sound like her baptism.
Thank you again for your help.
My family and their jounrey is slowly coming together.
Melia
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la grande-methe
Do you have access to the marriage records for 22nd April 1824. St Saviour.
Charles was born in England the census says but i have no idea where. I wondered whether it says in the actual record where he was from
Melia
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Unfortunately the marriage took place before civil registration and the marriage record in the parish register only says 'of St Saviour' which is presumably where he was living at the time.
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Oh well got to keep digging then!!! Never mind thank you anyway.