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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: Bob Elliott on Saturday 31 May 14 21:05 BST (UK)
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Looking for James Elliott and Ann Clark, married 4 Jan 1825 in Letterkenny Church, County Donegal, Ireland
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Hi Bob
Have you any other details? I am related to Elliotts and Clark/es from the Letterkenny area but I don't have that marriage in my records.
Regards
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
then come down the page and type in the search box: Elliott of letterkenny
records kept at Central Library, Oliver Plunkett Road. Letterkenny
http://www.donegallibrary.ie
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Hello Joe: James Elliott and Ann Clark were my great-great-grandparents.
James was born about 1801, parents might have been David Elliott and a Barbara, but surname not known. Ann was born about 1803 . Parents were Robert Clark and Margaret Clark, same surname. First child was Margaret Anne Elliott, baptised Raphoe Cathedral, Feb 1829. Record showed parents lived in Dromore, Taughboyne Parish . I wonder if James and Ann were living with her parents. Child named Margaret follows naming pattern, first child named after grandmother. Second child was Stephen, born 1833, no details. Third child was Jane, born 1835. Married in Glasgow 1855, showed Church Hill as birth place. Family moved to Glasgow in 1836. Fourth child was James, born Glasgow 1837. Then Robert, born Glasgow 1841. Then my great grandfather, Joseph Stopford Elliott born 1847 Glasgow. James and Ann minister who married them in Letterkenny in 1825 was Dr. Joseph Stopford. Probably Conwal church. Believe he is buried there.
Hope this is of some use to you. I plan to visit Letterkenny in September. Bob Elliott
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Hi,
sorry a little slow getting back to you, I got a chance to check my sources but unfortunately I don't see a connection, my Elliotts go back to a Robert Elliot (b.1800) recorded in a marriage record of his son James Elliott Raymochy, Donegal. My Clarkes lived in the townland of Roughan, parish of Conwal, near Letterkenny but the names Ann or parents, Robert and Margaret don't appear on my tree either.
Regards
Joe
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Thanks for getting back to me. This is the story of my searching, lots of Elliott's and Clark's , but not in the right place. Do you live near Letterkenny ? I wrote two Elliott men in Letterkenny, about a month ago; I got their addresses from the phone book, but no replies . Bob Elliott
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:) :) Looking for information on Margaret Elliot born about 1810 to parents James Elliot and Catherine Reilly.
James Elliot was a shoemaker. Not too sure where Margaret was born in Ireland but in 1845 she was living in Cavan.
James Elliot has been my brickwall for a very long time. ::) ::)
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Hello Joe: I was in Letterkenny a couple of weeks ago. Met a Robert Clark. His address is Roughan, New Mills, Letterkenny, County Donegal. Unfortunately he doesn't have a computer.
You might get something from him if you write him. You can mention my name. Bob Elliott
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My James Elliott was married to Ann Clark.
I was in Letterkenny a couple of weeks ago. I am pretty sure they were from a community called Cleive Glebe, but I have no proof in print.
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Hi Bob,
I must have missed your previous post I'll PM you re: Robert Clark
Joe
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joemc said he would send me a PM about Robert Clark, probably from Letterkenny, Donegal, born about 1780, but it never arrived.
If Joe sees this, please contact me.
Posted on behalf of Bob who had sent the message to me in error.
Regards
Sarah
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Checked my private messages,
I did reply to Bob at the time 15th October 2014, I will reply again as maybe he didn't read the original message, as he didn't respond
Regards
Joe
Maybe Bob dosen't know how to access his private messages?
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I have John Moore of Carrowtrasna, Gartan married to Isabella Elliott of Eastern Glebe or Gartan Glebe [hard to decipher the handwriting] youngest daughter of the late Mr. Stephen Elliott, of Ragory, Fannet/Fanad on January 6, 1863 at Gartan Church, by the Rev. H. Maturin, Rector of the Parish. This couple lived in Roshin, Gartan as tenants and were not related to the Roshin Moore family who were already established in Roshin. They had children in 1864, 1866, 1867, 1869, 1870, 1871, 1872, 1875, & 1876. I only know of two surviving children: Charles & Mary Moore. John Moore died as widower in 1935. I cannot find a record for the death of Isabella [nee Elliott] Moore.
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Hello Bob,
Did you get Joe's pm ok ?
Regards
Sarah
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Joe: Sorry to be so long replying to you. I have been busy with family from England. I presume your e-mail is from 2014. I don't recognise any names or towns. My great-great grandparents left Ireland in 1836, with three children, then had 3 more in Glasgow. My great grandfather was Joseph Stopford Elliott and he was born in Glasgow about 1847. Bob Elliott, Canada
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Hi, I hope I'm doing this right. Wasn't sure if it's ok for me to post this here or if I should of started a new thread.
I'm looking for info on my great grandfather James Duncan Elliott b. abt 1872 in Donegal. I don't know if this is correct, but according to my grandfather his name was James Duncan Elliott. He was married to Susan McConnell. Grandpa told my mom this over 35 years ago and his dates were just a guess, both mom and my grandfather have been gone for many years now. My grandfather and a few of his brother's left Donegal for Toronto, Ontario, Canada or the US. I have some records of the ones that moved to Canada but not ones from Ireland that I know are 100% fact.
Susanna Elliott b. abt 1881 m. A Mr. Abberly?
Margaret Ellen (Maggie) Elliott b. 1894 possibly m. James Dobbyn in 1931?
William John Elliott..born abt 1898
George Elliott born abt 6 Dec 1899..he m. Dorothy Weir in Toronto, Ontario, Canada 1925..she was b in Belfast.
Andrew Elliott b. 1901 donegal; he moved to Toronto and m. Ellen Ringland who was also from Ireland.
Hugh Elliott b. 1905 Donegal; he m. a lady named Belle, first name.
Joe Elliott b. abt 1905 donegal, he also moved to Toronto and m. Ethel Scattergood in Toronto, Ontario.
Saragh Jane (Sady) Elliott b. 1910 and the record that I found says she was b. Glengesh, Donegal, Ireland; which most of the records says for the Elliott's birth, but I'm not sure if they are the right person. Sady m. Robert James Henderson in Ireland.
Elizabeth (Lizzy) Elliot b. abt 1903 donegal. m. James Baskin?
I have been trying to find some info on the folks that stayed in Ireland, but I am not getting very far. But keep hoping that I some day will get lucky and find a reltive that can give me some info.
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Welcome Snokid, to start you off, this looks like the family in 1901 and 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumerrin/1175111/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumirrin/485729/
Here is the 1895 civil marriage registration for James Duncan Elliott and Susan McConnell:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10535/5837062.pdf
Here is James' 1872 birth to Charles Elliott and Margaret Duncan:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03223/2181490.pdf
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Welcome to RootsChat
There is a George born 6 Dec 1899 in Drumirrin parents James Elliott and Susan McConnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02007/1771282.pdf
This looks like the family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumerrin/1175111/
And 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumirrin/485729/
Doesn't quite match the information you were given but is close.
I see gaffy has found the same family.
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... I see gaffy has found the same family.
I had just finished typing / editing at the same time. :)
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... Here is James' 1872 birth to Charles Elliott and Margaret Duncan:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03223/2181490.pdf
FamilySearch shows a marriage at Inishkeel on 14 April 1864 between Charles Elliott and Margaret Duncan, both parties' fathers recorded as Charles. The image of the civil marriage registration isn't yet uploaded to the 'IrishGenealogy' website, but it should become available to view there (for free) in due course.
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...Hugh Elliott b. 1905 Donegal; he m. a lady named Belle, first name ...
Is this 1938 marriage to Isabella Boyd a possibility?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08879/5210988.pdf
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...Elizabeth (Lizzy) Elliot b. abt 1903 donegal. m. James Baskin?
1922 marriage of James Baskin to Elizabeth Elliott:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09199/5327584.pdf
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... Margaret Ellen (Maggie) Elliott b. 1894 possibly m. James Dobbyn in 1931?
Marriage here:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1931/09019/5263582.pdf
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This 1867 birth registration looks like a possible candidate for Susan McConnell:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/supp_births/2343751x.pdf
A marriage transcription for Ardara Church of Ireland parish on 7 March 1850 shows a farmer called John McConnell of 'Drumittan' marrying an Eliza Lamont of 'Meeanaragan', the two fathers recorded as William McConnell and George Lamont.
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Hi troops - any McClures in this Elliott thread?
I have a Sarah McClure born 1850 in Convoy who married George Elliott at Bohanboy in 1884.
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Oh my goodness gaffy & Sinann u have been busy!!! thanks so much for all your info!! I was soooo excited when I found all the things u both had been posting. I have been trying to find out for sure info on my Elliott family for almost 5 years now since I started this search. I had guessed the James Duncan Elliott's mom's surname might be Duncan as I had read that a lot of time the middle name of the kids would have the mom's surname. So I had searched for a Duncan mom and Elliott father before finding them. But I never had a birth certificate with all their names on it so that would show me I had the right ones. But now that I have it , thanks so much, I know for sure who they are and what the father's name of both are too.
My grandfather told me that he thought his grandfather or James Duncan's grandfather came from Scotland, he was a widower? with 2 sons, but Grampy wasn't too sure if he remembered that right. But at least now I know the names of my 3rd great grandfathers and I never thought that would happen!! Also my great uncle George's birth cert & Grampy's birth certificate!! My gr grandparents m. cert..this is better than Christmas! I am so very excited and thankful for all of your help and my son, is going to be excited too. :-) I haven't finished reading all the links yet, as I just wanted to tell u all what a wonderful gift u have given to me and how very much I appreciate it!!
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Welcome to RootsChat
There is a George born 6 Dec 1899 in Drumirrin parents James Elliott and Susan McConnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02007/1771282.pdf
This looks like the family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumerrin/1175111/
And 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumirrin/485729/
Doesn't quite match the information you were given but is close.
I see gaffy has found the same family.
Thanks Sinann for the link. Yes I do have those 2 census, sorry I forgot to mention that. I got them from a web site about 5 years ago Proni? when I first started looking for my Irish family. I just went by the names my grandfather gave mom of the names of his siblings. I didn't get to far with them because I wasn't too good at figuring out how to get the info on the Irish Proni site. I haven't tried it again since I got the 1901 & 1911 census. I must give it another go. :-)
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...Hugh Elliott b. 1905 Donegal; he m. a lady named Belle, first name ...
Is this 1938 marriage to Isabella Boyd a possibility?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08879/5210988.pdf
Hi, I'm not sure if she is the right Bella or not. I don't think I ever met my gr uncle Hugh at any family reunions. I think he might have stayed in Ireland. I just know that his wife's name was Bella I don't know the surname. :-(
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A lot of new records have come online since you first looked for the family, the two we have used here is the National Archives of Ireland
http://www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/
and Irish Genealogy for their Civil Records
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
you might also find this site useful
http://donegalgenealogy.com/
if you get stuck let us know we will help if we can, good luck.
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Hi, I'm not sure if she is the right Bella or not. I don't think I ever met my gr uncle Hugh at any family reunions. I think he might have stayed in Ireland. I just know that his wife's name was Bella I don't know the surname. :-(
In the marriage's favour, Hugh's details are promising in that his residence, father's name and occupation all fit and his age is absolutely spot on:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01795/1704108.pdf
In the 1911 census there was only one Elliott family living in Drumirrin (your Elliots), so promising as well. So a definite maybe :)
There were lots of Boyds in the area, but this one fits the Boyd side in the marriage, Richard Boyd (father Hugh) who married Ann Jane Boyd in 1912 and had a daughter Isabella later that year:
1911 census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Glengesh/Drumirrin/485735/
Marriage:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09904/5599179.pdf
Birth of Isabella:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01473/1599950.pdf
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...Elizabeth (Lizzy) Elliot b. abt 1903 donegal. m. James Baskin?
1922 marriage of James Baskin to Elizabeth Elliott:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1922/09199/5327584.pdf
Thanks so much! This is so wonderful :o
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A lot of new records have come online since you first looked for the family, the two we have used here is the National Archives of Ireland
http://www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/
and Irish Genealogy for their Civil Records
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
you might also find this site useful
http://donegalgenealogy.com/
if you get stuck let us know we will help if we can, good luck.
Thank u so much! I will check them again. I am on Ancestry.com, but they don't have the complete records,,just the indexes on some but that doesn't give the complete date or the parents names. If it's a marriage list there are a list of names, not just 2. Which makes it hard if u don't know both of the persons' names. But you both have given me so much info it is wonderful. :-)
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Hi, I tried last night to find out more birth records etc from those websites but couldn't find anything. It kept says no records found..which isn't too big of a surprise as it takes me a bit to figure out some websites.. :-[ but I haven't given up, I do have a stubborn streak, I will keep trying.
I did find some nursing records for my great aunt. I found she was a nurse in Donegal and went to London to train, so that was nice.
Take care and thanks again for your help. :-)
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Hi, I tried last night to find out more birth records etc from those websites but couldn't find anything. It kept says no records found..which isn't too big of a surprise as it takes me a bit to figure out some websites.. :-[ but I haven't given up, I do have a stubborn streak, I will keep trying.
I did find some nursing records for my great aunt. I found she was a nurse in Donegal and went to London to train, so that was nice.
Take care and thanks again for your help. :-)
Often Less is More...
You know Glenties was the District so just put the following in..
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Thanks Hallmark, I was using Glengesh or Donegal..I don't really understand the district thing. I keep reading different websites about them, but I keep getting mixed up. So Glenties is the civil reg. district for Donegal then? I'm going to write that down and start a list. Thanks again, much appreciated. :D I'll go back and try that. have a good day!
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Glenties is the Reg District for the part of County Donegal your family was living in at that time.
Choose Donegal from the drop down list on the left to see all the districts. There are 10 in County Donegal or part of
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
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Thanks Hallmark, I was using Glengesh or Donegal..I don't really understand the district thing. I keep reading different websites about them, but I keep getting mixed up. So Glenties is the civil reg. district for Donegal then? I'm going to write that down and start a list. Thanks again, much appreciated. :D I'll go back and try that. have a good day!
Registry Districts are reasonably far apart.
Each District them had what are called Dispensaries....
But to search you just need the Districts in the site already posted.
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php will explain.... the just use the Dropbox on left and choose Donegal.
You see some that are in 2 or 3 counties depending on catchment area!
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Thanks Hallmark for your help.
I want to thank all of you for all the help u gave me to find info on my Elliott relatives. With your help I found all kinds of documents and even my great grather's brother that moved to the US that I had been looking for for years but I wasn't able to find him in Ireland. I don't know why he moved to Philadelphia, USA and others moved to Canada, but I'm glad I was able to find him! I would of checked in sooner, but I lost my bookmark. LOL Now I'm off to see if I can find relatives from Scotland. :-)