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Title: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Sunday 01 June 14 23:58 BST (UK)

My great Grandfather Edward Alexander "Alex"  Burnie or his first wives death date or location her name was Mary Jane  (Tebo) Burnie  They were Born about 1860 and 1853 respectfully  married in 1886 Both born  and married in Georginia Twp, York County, Ontario, Canada this info on either or both of them needed plus any other info appreciated   Thanks Wayne
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Jomot on Monday 02 June 14 01:09 BST (UK)
Could your dob's be out a bit?  There is a possible death for Mary Jane in York County in 1898, but estimated dob is 1866  :-\

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J63Y-G68

ADDED: If this is his second marriage then his dob is given as 1869, which would make the above more likely.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/27Z5-T4Y



Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: cosmac on Monday 02 June 14 05:50 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=688044.msg5320864#msg5320864
previous post on the Burnie family

1891 census Alexander is with wife Mary
1894 marriage to Elizabeth
1913 marriage to Ada (nee Dixon)
1926 Ada's marriage to Donald Carpentier

At least it gives you a timeframe for each relationship.

Previous suggestion to check FamilySearch Ontario Roman Catholic records.  You have to browse through them but if Alexander remained Catholic his death might be found in those records.
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Monday 02 June 14 16:01 BST (UK)
thanks to both of you yes i found these facts and no this is not Mary Jane who died they had a son born in 1890 together
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Monday 02 June 14 16:03 BST (UK)
oops that still might be her sorry
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 June 14 16:11 BST (UK)
If Edward Alexander remarried in 1894 to Elizabeth Johnston, chances are his first wife Mary had died (presuming divorce was quite expensive then) You would be looking for a death somewhere between the 1891 census and 6th August 1894.

Sandra
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Monday 02 June 14 16:15 BST (UK)
thanks Sandra that is time period i have been looking
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: cosmac on Monday 02 June 14 23:47 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Burney, d/o Joseph Castor and Clara Vanleuven, had married under the surname Johnston in 1894.  Her death in Uxbridge was May 19, 1913 at age 51.  Alex Burney of Uxbridge informant.  2nd section of the death registration refers to her as Mary Elizabeth.  Alex remarried for the 3rd time quickly - perhaps he married Elizabeth in the same short timeframe after his first wife's death.
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Tuesday 03 June 14 01:04 BST (UK)
Yes he did remarry quickly to ada hutchinson in 1913 for the third time it is his death and his first wife mary jane I cannot find
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 03 June 14 04:08 BST (UK)
I realize that - I'm just trying to add details to the thread and observations which might help you to think about the problem in a different light.

Have you found the family in the 1921 census yet?

In the previous thread you mentioned one of the sons using his stepmother Ada as his next of kin on his WWI Attestation papers.  Why not his father?  Had his father died by that time?  Something to consider.

Sometimes you never do find documents for individuals. 
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Tuesday 03 June 14 05:45 BST (UK)
Quote from: Jomot on Monday 02 June 14 01:09 BST (UK)
Could your dob's be out a bit?  There is a possible death for Mary Jane in York County in 1898, but estimated dob is 1866  :-\

The image of the registration for that death indicates Mary was single and Catholic. As well she died in Muskoka County, not York County.

Jacquie
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Tuesday 03 June 14 17:01 BST (UK)
i think the mary in muskoka might be a niece
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Jomot on Tuesday 03 June 14 20:00 BST (UK)
Quote from: Jacquie in Canada on Tuesday 03 June 14 05:45 BST (UK)
Quote from: Jomot on Monday 02 June 14 01:09 BST (UK)
Could your dob's be out a bit?  There is a possible death for Mary Jane in York County in 1898, but estimated dob is 1866  :-\

The image of the registration for that death indicates Mary was single and Catholic. As well she died in Muskoka County, not York County.

Jacquie

My apologies, I meant to say a possible death for Mary Jane born in York County died 1898
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Saturday 07 June 14 01:45 BST (UK)
no luck yet
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Tuesday 10 June 14 02:33 BST (UK)
still looking
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 10 June 14 02:50 BST (UK)
have you found either Ada or Alex/Edward on the 1921 census?
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 10 June 14 03:47 BST (UK)
Ada might have married Donald Carpentier in 1926 but she is living with him in Sutton West on the 1921 census as his wife.  Her sons, Nicholas and William Hutchinson are also in the household with them.
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: Wayne Burnie on Wednesday 11 June 14 22:25 BST (UK)
Cosmac i think they were married in 1920 but thanks for letting me know about her sons didn't know about them
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 12 June 14 02:01 BST (UK)
Have you looked at the actual marriage in 1886??...as it says he married Mary Jane "Gordainer", born circa 1857 daughter of Peter Tebo and Mary Ann Godfrey. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMJ5-7V5

In 1861 Georgina, York, Ont census she show as 7 years (b. 1854)
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108434_00170.jpg
parents Peter 45 b. Que C of E labourer Hannah F 29 b.Ont (remarried? as wife is Harriet in 1871 & 1881) sophia here in 1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4396621_00313.jpg

Mary Jane perhaps married to a James Benjamin Seymour "Gordonier" and had a child in 1871 William Alfred Gordonier /1873 John Dugal Gordanier

Is this the lad remembering his mother's forename with Elizabeth's surname of Johnson?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZBM-MXL
Title: Re: Cannot find when or where my great Grandparents died
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 12 June 14 02:24 BST (UK)
What, ack!!!  you were told this in a previous thread and you still don't put down the correct information when asking for help?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=688044.18

adding:
and reading further down you say you found her on census Wednesday May 28 2014....yet June 1st you posted this query with an age nowhere near what you knew her to be?

I do not mind saying what a waste of time answering your query was for me.... :P >:(