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hi all i'm looking for information on
Sir Thomas de Assheton dominus de Croston and Alice de Lea of Croston and Mawdesley, the manor of Croston and Mawdesley
my 15th great grandfather Birth in Lancashire? , and Death 17 Oct 1407 Buried Lincoln Cathredal
In brass, on a marble: "Hic jacet Thomas de Ashton, armiger Henrici regis, quondam dominus de Crofton; qui obit decimo septimo die mensis Octobris, anno Domini mccccvii. Cujus anime propitietur Deus, amen".
'esquire of King Henry IV and formerly lord of Croston The Ashtons were related to the Winwick family, who held the rectories of Wigan and Walton-on-the-Hill and founded the chantry at Huyton.
"Ashton of Croston," says a note in lord Suffield's MS. pedigrees, "came from Ashton in Craven.
Sir Thomas de Ashton Lord of Croston 17 Oct 1407 is Not to be Confounded with the medieval Thomas de Aston, a 13th-century monk 7 June 1401 the two men are in Lincoln Cathredal
He is not Sir Thomas de Assheton the Alchemist Death 1460 in Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
So Who is his Father ???
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Sir Thomas Assheton dominus de Croston
Father Sir John de Assheton of Mourholm Manor
Mother Emma de Winwick Sister of
Sir John de Winwick rector of Wigan
and Sir Richard de Winwick canon of Lincoln ;D
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Are you sure about the line from this Assheton to your own is direct ancestry? There were quite a lot of branches of Asshetons, pretty near all over Lancashire, and your inscriptions, etc seem to relate to more than one line. It's very hard to be "certain" so far back, for most families - the records often don't quite link up.
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i have been tracking my family since 1996 , until my last posting, (The College of Arms uk) agree to the line. as the evedence has been shown to them,
the conection to emma Winwick is a new find for me and are found under the (Will) of john winwick cannon, Huyton
and yes i have the B.M.D records etc, as my proof to my Direct linege to the Asshetons of Croston.
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That's pretty fantastic, so rare that such continuity is proved and possible. So you will be aware, as I stated, of the many different families in Lancashire / Cheshire with the surname Assheton, and the same first names linking through.
I just thought I'd check, as people can get so disappointed when what they thought was "their" family suddenly turns out not to be exactly that, and it often happens with landed / minor gentry families. Not in any way intending to devalue your research. I do hope you find the ones you seek, as you will obviously know, the further back, the harder! Happy hunting.
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I very much agree with what you have said, and that's why we need to listen to the old ones as they hold important keys that unlock those locked doors,
if its worth doing , do it right and stay true to your self and never give up. :)
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More imformation will found on the ashton family ,
Sir John de Assheton of Wolfall in Huyton
In 1354 Adam son of Henry de Wolfall released to John de Ashton the messuage which had descended to him.
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Subject Sir John de Ashton (fl. 1370), military commander Sir Robert Canoll — that is, Sir Robert Knolles — was of Cheshire birth. Sir John Ashton was knight of the shire for his native county in the parliament of Westminster in 1389. He married Margaret, daughter of Perkin Legh of Lyme, ? and was succeeded in the lordship of Ashton by his son. Sir John, who was drowned at Norham This was taken from Wikipedia. .
Subject Sir John de Ashton (fl. 1370), military commander could not have died 1360 as many may think, .
please enter the room Sir John de Assheton of Wolfall in Huyton and tell us who you are..
King David was made prisoner by John de Coupland Thomas de Ashton, who fought under Lord Neville, captured the royal standard of Scotland. Shortly after King David was made prisoner by John de Coupland, variously described as a Lancashire esquire and as a Northumberland gentleman, who was knighted when the king returned from France, but Ashton was still an esquire when, in 1385, he formed one of the retinue of John of Gaunt in his expedition to Spain..
I Sir John de Assheton of Wolfall in Huyton , at the demise of John de Coupland of Mourholm manor, the Will of Sir John de Winwick gives his term of Mourholm manor to me Sir John de Assheton and Emma de Winwick my wife..
i have sons
John
Richard
Thomas 17 Oct 1407
daughters
Emmot
Margery
Emmot married (about 1396) John de Cowdray of Wolfall in Huyton or John de Wolfall of Huyton
John married (about 1396) Emmot daughter of John de Ashton, the latter paying £20 and assigning the lands he had bought from Adam de Wolfall
Henry IV., 1404–5.
Margery daughter of John de Asshton, of Wolfall
Thomas del More, of Liverpool, and Margery, his wife, Christopher de Broghton and Elizabeth, his wife, Sir John de Dalton, chivaler, Margery, daughter of John de Asshton, of Wolfall, Margaret, widow of Elias de Bradshaw, Henry, son of Adam de Bretherton, Sir Richard Kirkeby, chivaler, William de Tarleton, Robert Faseacrelegh and Ellen, his wife, Gilbert de Standissh and Joan, his wife, John, son of Sir John de Holand, of Thorpwaterville
In 1354 Adam son of Henry de Wolfall released the messuage at Wolfall in Huyton which had descended me..
do you remember Cawthorne , The Journal of Nicholas Assheton: Of Downham
thomas ashton of Cawthorne near dams house , you will find sir john de kirkby at Cawthorne..
thankyou for your time Sir John
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to correct the last post
you will find Sir John de Dalton at Dalton , Sir john de kirkby is at kirkby as we all know.
Cawthorne was not meant here , no intent to mislead sorry
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Having stumbled on this thread, please can I ask about some questions about some of the slightly more recent generations?
I descend from Thomas Ashton of Croston whose daughter Alice married John Molyneux (c.1518-21st July 1582) of Melling, co. Lancaster. Who was this Thomas's wife and where do they fit into this family, please?
I see in Dugdale's Visitation that Thomas Ashton (d.c.1624) of Croston married Elizabeth, dau. of Sir Henry Twyford (and then various descendants are shown) - does this family connect and if so how, please?
Many thanks,
Caspar
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Have you seen the plaques in Lincoln Cathedral?
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No I have not seen the plaques in Lincoln Cathedral. Are there details of them anywhere online, please?
Many thanks,
Caspar
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You could try googling Lincoln Cathedral. I'm near there if you would like me to take photos. I have sent you a pm.
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hello CasparV .
Elizabeth Twyford of Salop
1548–1611
BIRTH 1548 • Lancashire England
DEATH 1611 • Lancashire England
10th great-grandmother
Thomas Ashton of Croston
1548–1621
BIRTH 18 JUL 1548 • Croston, Lancashire, England
DEATH 24 FEB 1621 • Croston, Lancashire, England
10th great-grandfather
i do not think they fit your reqsuest
but if you have a look at
Sir Thomas Ashton of Croston
1490–1528
BIRTH 1490 • Croston, Lancashire, , England
DEATH 1528 • Croston, Lancashire, , England
12th great-grandfather his Half Sibling is
Richard constable of Liverpool castle de Molyneux master forester of the forest and parks of West Derbyshire, steward of Salfordshire
1396–1460
BIRTH 5 OCT 1396 • Sefton, Lancashire, England
DEATH 1460
13th great-uncle
married
Lady Joan (Countess of Haydock) Haydock
1395–1440
BIRTH 1395 • Bradley, Lancashire
DEATH 17 JANUARY 1440
4th cousin 15x removed
Hop this helps
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Hello CasparV
This is what i have on john Molyneux of Melling
in 1395–6 Richard de Eves of Thornton gave to Henry Boys the 6 acres called Pepperfield, (fn. 93) and about fourteen years afterwards Richard de Eves and Maud his wife sold it to Nicholas Blundell of Little Crosby, Henry Boys, son of William Highson, releasing all his right therein. (fn. 94) Next Henry Blundell gave to Robert, son of John Molyneux of Melling, in 1454–5 a pound of pepper with the field called Pepperfield.
About the beginning of the fifteenth century the Molyneux family of Thornton, who, as already shown, had long claimed a manor, (fn. 43) made Melling their principal residence, their house being known as The Wood, or Hall of the Wood. Robert de Molyneux, the first described as 'of Melling,' (fn. 44) had a son John who married Agnes daughter of Henry Blundell of Crosby, (fn. 45) and was succeeded by his son Robert and his grandson John. (fn. 46) The latter's son and heir Robert died 5 July 1541, leaving a son and heir John, then aged twenty-three, and younger children. (fn. 47)
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp66-74
John Molyneux was one of the eight Lancashire gentlemen and yeoman recusants who at the beginning of the Elizabethan persecution in 1568 were singled out by the royal commissioners in the hope of terrorizing the rest. John Molyneux stated that he had attended service at Melling chapel
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp208-215
so we see that John Molyneux of Melling married Agnes daughter of Henry Blundell of Crosby
at this time i have not seen any retts for john to directly connect to the ashtons
back up the line of the Molyneux they do linkup and the funny thing is Henry Blundell of Crosby , a William Blundell of Crosby is a grandfarther of my grandmother , lmao
hop that helps , see Ancestry.com.au
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Thank you very much for all of that.
I have constructed pedigrees for Molyneux of the Wood in Melling and for Ashton of Croston (sometimes Crofton) and there appears to be a connection, but I am still not entirely confident and I have no mother for Alice (daughter of Thomas Ashton of Croston, who married John Molyneux of Melling).
I have also tried to consruct a pedigree for Ashton of Bispham - I have found many menbers and have short runs, but nothing that joins up very well. Does anyone have anything any better on this branch, please?
Many thanks,
Caspar
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ok then
[no title] DDN 1/41 27 Mar. 1500
Contents:
Mortgage: for £30. 13. 4: Thomas Hesketh, esq., & Roger Dalton, esq. -- properties in Croston & Mawdesley, late of Margaret wife of Thomas Ashton, in the tenures of Elis Scharpuls, Hugh Haresnape, Robert Jamisson, Robert Hogekinson, William Adamson, Richard Waterward, Gilbart Nelson, Cristor Rutter, Richard Nelson, Robert Waterward, Issabell Sonke, Charles Herrison, Robert Woddes, Ottwell Mawdesley, Robert Nicholasson, Henry Hanworth, Robert Mawdesley, Richard Ashton, Thomas Ashton, & Issabell widow of John Nelson; & rents from a close called Burscogh Feld & from lands of William Brodehede; & properties late in the tenure of William Holme, Thomas Farington, & John Brethyrton; also lands belonging to Flemynge Hall, with an acre of meadow in Old Mawdesley which belonged to Thomas Dalton of Bispham for life. Seal
Margaret Scarisbrick wife of Thomas Ashton
i cross parths with the Scarisbricks often , i have Joan de Scarisbrick wife of Hugh Aughton of North Meols
work in progress
Sir Barnaby Kytchine of Pilling hall m Ellen sefton Molyneux of North Meols
he allready has married Anne Aughton of North Meols daughter of Richard Aughton of North Meols and Isabel Boteler of North Meols they lead to Katherine de Cowdray of North Meols and Otes de Halshall of Halsall etc Eleanor de Cowdray of North Meols married Henry de Scarisbrick of Scarisbrick,North Meols on to Gilbert de Scarisbrick of Scarisbrick and Joan de Kirkby
Plunder the church , you need this info to make it work good luck
oh yer Henry Twyford aka Townsend
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Assheton of Wolfall
In 1309 Richard de Wolfall and others were accused of disseising John son of John de Wolfall of his lands in Huyton; Assize R. 423, m. 1 d.
71. John de Wolfall was in 1356 made warden of the park of Simonswood; Kuerden MSS. ii, fol. 270,n. 145. A feoffment of John de Wolfall and Margery his wife in 1354 is among the Norris D. (B.M.), 984. Henry de Wolfall occurs as granting to Sir Robert de Lathom land in the waste of Huyton, beginning at the house of Robert son of Roger de Thingwall, and following the bounds of Knowsley and West Derby, and thence to the land of William de Huyton; ibid. n. 982.
72. Kuerden, loc. cit. n. 61, 32, 21. One branch of the family seems to have settled in the Lydiate district, and families there about this time laid claim to lands in Wolfall. John de Cowdray the younger in 1343 acquired 5 acres in a field called Roolowe (now Rooley); Bold D. (Warrington), G. 12. Richard de Aughton leased to John de Pennington the lands which had been John de Cowdray's in Huyton; in 1377 Robert de Wolfall gave to Richard de Pennington lands in the College field there; Kuerden, loc. cit. n. 19, 14, 36, 79. Some cross suits had in 1358 preceded this—between John de Wolfall on the one side, and Richard de Aughton and Katherine his wife, with whom was joined Isabel daughter of Henry de Scarisbrick, on the other. John de Cowdray, deceased, had been uncle of Katherine and grand-uncle of Isabel (a minor); Duchy of Lanc. Assize R. 7, m. 4, 5, 5 d.
73. Kuerden, loc. cit. n. 18.
74. Assize R. 435, m. 4 d.; 425.
75. Norris D. (B.M.), 987. See Kuerden, loc. cit. n. 8, 11, 24.
76. John married (about 1396) Emmot daughter of John de Ashton, the latter paying £20 and assigning the lands he had bought from Adam de Wolfall; ibid. n. 77, also 3, 12, 20, 64.
77. Ibid. &c. n. 122, 10, 28, 126–9, 123, 29, 34. In some of these abstracts Nicholas and Thomas are called John's sons. The dates are from 2 to 7 Hen. IV. John Wolfall and Thomas Wolfall the younger occur in a settlement of 1417; ibid. n. 119. In 1435–6 Thomas son of John Wolfall made a release to John Ashton; ibid. n. 48. The next who occur are Richard
Wolfall (1442–3), John son of Richard Wolfall (1465), and Thomas son and heir of John Wolfall (1479 to 1488);
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp168-176
next see
Townships: North Meols
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp230-236
cross Reffs, with above.
Sir Thomas Ashton of Croston
1490–1528
BIRTH 1490 • Croston, Lancashire, , England
DEATH 1528 • Croston, Lancashire, , England
12th great-grandfather
Lady Agnes Standish of Croston
BIRTH 1490 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, , England
DEATH Lancashire England
12th great-grandmother
son
Richard Ashton of Croston and Mawdesley
1520–1606
BIRTH 1520 • Croston, Lancashire, England
DEATH 1606 • Croston, Lancashire, England
11th great-grandfather
married
Jane Hesketh of Rufford
1520–1608
BIRTH 1520 • Rufford, Lancashire
DEATH 17 OCT 1608 • Croston, Lancashire, England
11th great-grandmother
daughter
Alice Ashton of Croston and Mawdesley
1547–
BIRTH 1547 • Croston, Lancashire, , England
DEATH Lancashire England
11th great-aunt
The above Mortgage: for £30. 13. 4: Thomas Hesketh, esq. reffers to
Sir Thomas Hesketh of Rufford
1465–1523
BIRTH 1465 • Rufford, Lancs, England
DEATH 14 AUG 1523 • Rufford Hall, Lancashire, England
13th great-grandfather
As dates for, (c.1518-21st July 1582) alice you seek maybe sister of richard
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My post will show how it all works ,
Thomas de Ashton and Cecily his wife in 1305 made a feoffment of a messuage and land in Ashton; Final Conc. i, 206;De Banc. R. 162, m. 200 d.
A settlement of the manor was made in 1307, Thomas de Ashton granting it to John son of Thomas de Ashton, a minor,
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Master William de Asshton, John de Asshton, and John de Wolleton, chaplain, plaintiffs, and Robert de Standissh,knight, and Isolda, his wife, deforciants of a fourth part of the manor of Dounelithirlond [Down Litherland].
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Alice, the daughter and heiress of William Lee, married Thomas Ashton
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rumple_stilt_skin2 land in Down Litherland Molyneux, Earl of Sefton , Richard de Eves of Thornton gave to Henry Boys the 6 acres called Pepperfield, (fn. 93) and about fourteen years afterwards Richard de Eves and Maud his wife sold it to Nicholas Blundell of Little Crosby,
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Emma ! de winwick ? Hnnm , Townships: Sefton
taken from Ancestry.com.au my comments page on my,16th great-grandfather Sir John de Assheton of Wolfall in Huyton
In brass, on a marble: "Hic jacet Thomas de Ashton, armiger Henrici regis, quondam dominus de Crofton; qui obit decimo septimo die mensis Octobris, anno Domini mccccvii. Cujus anime propitietur Deus, amen".
Sir Thomas de Ashton dominus de Croston and Mawdesley
–1407
BIRTH Lancashire, England
DEATH 17 OCT 1407 • Lancashire, England
15th great-grandfather
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is also seen , william brother of Sir John de ashton,
Between Master Richard de Wynewyke, parson of the church of Walton, and Master William de Assheton, clerk, (fn. 24) plaintiffs, and Richard, son of Robert de Ines, deforciant of the manors of Hasphull [Aspull] and Ines near Wygan, and of 12 messuages, 4 tofts, 16 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow, and15s. of rent in Weryngton, Wygan, Haydok, Goldeburn, and Assheton, near Wygan.
Richard, son of Robert, acknowledged the said manors, tenements, and rent to be the right of the said Master Richard, where of the said Masters had the said manors of the gift of the said Richard, son of Robert, except 122 acres and the third part of 4 acres of land, 4 acres and 1 rood of meadow, 2 acres of pasture, and 4li. 18s. 10d. of rent in the said manors, and he granted to them the said rent, and the said rent of 15s., together with the homages and services of John, son of Robert de Holand, knight, John de Haydok, Thomas Gerard, Henry, son of Thomas de Ines, William, son of William de Mikulfen, Jordan del Twys and Matilda, his wife, John del Childres, Gilbert, son of William de Ines, John Hobbesone, William Hythel, John Le White, Hugh de Ines, Mabel Brant, Hugh del Crosse, Thurstan de Byrom, Henry de Walton, John Gidlowe, Richard de Assheton, Roger Broun, Robert de Hyndeley, Henry de Ballesden, Hyon de Bradeshagh, Hugh de Swynley, Matthew de Marclan, Emma, late the wife of John de Assheton, Richard [Workesley ?], Bailiff of Chastershire, and Ellen, his wife, and Margery, late the wife of Richard Annot, and of their heirs for the tenements which they formerly held of the said Robert, son of Robert, in the said manors and towns, to have and to hold to the said Master Richard and Master William and to the heirs of Master Richard for ever. Moreover the said Richard, son of Robert, granted for him self and his heirs that 9 messuages and 2 tofts in Wygan which Thomas de Ines held for term of life,1 messuage which Hugh Le Fissher held in the said town for term of life, 2 messuages, 2 tofts, 16 acres of land, and 6 acres of meadow in Weryngton which Hugh de Ines held forterm of life, 100 acres of land and 4 acres of meadow of the tenements above excepted which William de Wyn . . . and Agnes, his wife, held for the term of the life of the said Agnes, 10 acres of land of the tenements above excepted which Yarward del Forde held forterm of life, 12 acres of land, 1 rood of meadow, and 2. . . of pasture of the tenements above excepted which Adam de Ryseley and Agnes, his wife, held for the term of the life of the said Agnes, and that the said third part above excepted which John de Pemberton and Joan, his wife, held for the term of Joan's life, of the inheritance of the said Richard, son of Robert, and which after the decease of the said Thomas de Ines, Hugh Le Fissher, Hugh de Ines, Agnes, Yarward, Agnes, and Joan ought to revert to the said Richard, son of Robert, should remain to the said Master Richard and Master William and to the heirs of Master Richard, for which Master Richard and Master William gave him 200 marks.
42 (m. 35). At Lancaster, on Saturday next after the Assumption, 7 Regality of John, Duke of Lancaster [22ndAugust, 1383].
From: 'Lancashire Fines: John, Duke of Lancaster (1377-83)', Final Concords for Lancashire, Part 3: 1377-1509 (1905), pp. 1-19. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52562 Date accessed: 24 June 2014.
HENRY VI., 1422-3.
Sir William de Stanley, chivaler, John Blundell, of Crosseby,
Sir John Stanley, kt., Sir Richard Molyneux, chivaler, William
del Hethe, chaplain, Thomas Walker, chaplain, Richard de Pil-
kyngton, Richard de Chadirton, the prior of Burscogh, Henry de
Byrum, John Gerard, of Ines, Hugh de Tildesley, Robert Unton,
Richard de Dalton, Richard de Radeclif, of Dounum, Richard de
Bradley, Alured Radclif, Thomas Gylowe, Sir William Lovell,
chivaler, Richard Botiller, of Kirkland, William Abraham, vicar
of the church of Croston, Juliana Fletewod, and William, son
of Robert de Barlawe.
3 HENRY VI., 1424-5.
William Esslak, executor of the will of Richard Esslak, of
Lancaster, Henry de Preston and Joan, his wife, Thomas de
Sotheworth, William de Chysnall, Catharine, widow of John,
son of Richard Caterall, executrix of the will of the said Richard,
Roger de Venables, parson of the church of Routhestorn, Ranulph
de Coton, Christopher de Tyldesley and Joan, his wife, Sir William
de Haryngton, kt., Sir Richard Molyneux, kt., Ellen, widow of
James de Haryngton, kt., Nicholas de Haryngton, Richard de
Shirburn, and Thomas de Urswyk, Edward de Chernok, Hugh
de Bradshagh, John de Bradshagh, John de Sotheworth, Catharine
Baxter, Edmund Frere, Sir Richard Molyneux, kt., William, son
of Roger de Assheton, Christopher de Preston, John le Fletcher,
chaplain, John de Assheton and Emma, his wife, Thomas, son
and heir of William Norreys, Simon Gybunsone and his son
Richard, John Gerard, of Ines, and Ellen, his wife, the Abbot of
Cokersand, Laurence Gilybrond, Hugh Gilybrond, Thurstan de
http://www.archive.org/stream/p3finalconcords00lacauoft/p3finalconcords00lacauoft_djvu.txt
please keep in mind that the King had all record changed,start at
le Gross. Ferrers and langton seem to get it aswell
Witch Burnings at Pendle Hill see biship Bridgeman,
a lot of cuzons found their death.
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Emma de Winwick of Thornton , Her Sister Alice de Winwick of Thornton was joind with Alan de Singleton lord of Singleton
Lancaster, Ashton Hall was originally the estate of Roger of Poitou of the Barony of Lancashire, who acquired a great number of lands following the Norman conquest of England. Sometime after this, it became the ancestral home of the De Coucy family, and the surviving portion of the hall was built by Edmund Lawrence in the 14th Century. His contribution to Ashton Hall is tower house, which was constructed with red sandstone that was quarried locally with a slate roof. One of the interesting features is that, instead of perpendicular towers, Ashton Hall’s towers on the older part of the building are set diagonally. Another interesting feature to survive are the crenellated parapets.
When the De Coucy family line ran out, it passed in the female line to John De Coupland. Also known as John Copeland, his claim to fame was capturing King David II of Scotland at the Battle of Nevill’s Cross in 1436. The hall passed several more times after this. It went first to the Lawrence family, the descendents of Edmund, but was lost sometime after a Lawrence killed a favourite of King Henry VII in a duel had had to flee. From there, it passed to the Butlers of Radcliffe and to the Gerards of Bromley. During this time, Ashton Hall played host to two kings, first to King James I and, thirty-four years later, to his grandson, King Charles II.
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My post will show how it all works ,
Thomas de Ashton and Cecily his wife in 1305 made a feoffment of a messuage and land in Ashton; Final Conc. i, 206;De Banc. R. 162, m. 200 d.
A settlement of the manor was made in 1307, Thomas de Ashton granting it to John son of Thomas de Ashton, a minor,
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Master William de Asshton, John de Asshton, and John de Wolleton, chaplain, plaintiffs, and Robert de Standissh,knight, and Isolda, his wife, deforciants of a fourth part of the manor of Dounelithirlond [Down Litherland].
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Alice, the daughter and heiress of William Lee, married Thomas Ashton
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rumple_stilt_skin2 land in Down Litherland Molyneux, Earl of Sefton , Richard de Eves of Thornton gave to Henry Boys the 6 acres called Pepperfield, (fn. 93) and about fourteen years afterwards Richard de Eves and Maud his wife sold it to Nicholas Blundell of Little Crosby,
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rumple_stilt_skin2 Emma ! de winwick ? Hnnm , Townships: Sefton
taken from Ancestry.com.au my comments page on my,16th great-grandfather Sir John de Assheton of Wolfall in Huyton
In brass, on a marble: "Hic jacet Thomas de Ashton, armiger Henrici regis, quondam dominus de Crofton; qui obit decimo septimo die mensis Octobris, anno Domini mccccvii. Cujus anime propitietur Deus, amen".
Sir Thomas de Ashton dominus de Croston and Mawdesley
–1407
BIRTH Lancashire, England
DEATH 17 OCT 1407 • Lancashire, England
15th great-grandfather
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in the 12th century. Between 1189 and 1194 Henry, son of Warin de Lea was granted Raven Meols near Formby and shortly afterwards he presented a portion of the estate to Cockersand Abbey.
The Lea or Lee family who were known as Lords of Raven Meols also became interested in Litherland when Henry de Lea acquired a fourth part of the manor. In 1280, Sir Henry de Lea granted land to Richard de Litherland and Henry son of Henry de Lea is mentioned in connection with land named Pikemanscroft. In 1305 he claimed lands from Richard de Ince and as a result of land deals, litigation followed, for in 1350 William son of Sir William de Lea brought an action against Richard Molyneaux of Sefton concerning lands in Litherland. He was evidently successful, for in 1372 William and his wife Isola still held a fourth part of the manor.
In 1307, Henry de Lea, a son of Henry, clerk of Litherland, was Rector of Halsall, an appointment he was holding in 1333, when he witnessed a Charter relating to Litherland.
In the 15th century, William de Lee owned a portion of the Manor of Formby where his ancestors William and Nicholas his son, had formerly owned 3 oxgangs. The family also spread to Orrell, Croston and Maghull, where Richard de Lee and his uncle Robert de Lee are mentioned in 1472. A hundred years later a descendant, another Richard, purchased land in Much Hoole from the Bold family. Yet another branch of the family lived at Rainhill, where in 1320, Roger, a son of William de Lee granted to William his son, his rights in lands there. These were passed on through John to Henry Lee and his son Richard who in 1424 sold his Rainhill lands to Henry Blundell of Little Crosby
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I've tried to stop this topic coming up on "New Replies", as I'm really not interested in it, but it seems to re-appear. Other topics have "stopped" quite easily - what could I be doing wrong here? ( Sorry, "Sir" Ashton, nothing personal....)
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I've tried to stop this topic coming up on "New Replies", as I'm really not interested in it, but it seems to re-appear. Other topics have "stopped" quite easily - what could I be doing wrong here? ( Sorry, "Sir" Ashton, nothing personal....)
other people may find it useful ,you need not reply , ignore or block
thanx, nothing personal
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That's what I was trying to do, so that I didn't get reminded each time you posted some more of your research, but I couldn't seem to manage it - as I said, it's fascinating, but not one of my areas of interest, so I wanted to avoid being reminded each time.
That would not stop others from finding your posts fascinating, I was merely trying to tidy up my reminders - and this thread wouldn't go away!
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That's what I was trying to do, so that I didn't get reminded each time you posted some more of your research, but I couldn't seem to manage it - as I said, it's fascinating, but not one of my areas of interest, so I wanted to avoid being reminded each time.
That would not stop others from finding your posts fascinating, I was merely trying to tidy up my reminders - and this thread wouldn't go away!
you may need the site manager
srry for any inconvenience
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Okay, I've just had another bash at "removing you" - hope it didn't hurt! Good luck with your further researches, your Lordship!
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i thanx you !
have you the Burrow family line ?
lol
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"Burrows" actually. But not at all noble, your lordship.
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Have you seen the plaques in Lincoln Cathedral?
Can anyone tell me exactly where these plaques are in the cathedral please? I've visited and couldn't find them, and none of the guides knew of them.
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Hi this my first posting I am just starting to trace my Ashton family’s line family lore tells me that the Ashtons from Ormskirk are related to the Ashtons of Croston and Penketh but in reality I have no information I have traced the line back to John Ashton born Ormskirk 1768 he married Ann Spencer born about 1768 in Burscough Lancashire. Johns Father could be Henry Ashton born 1691 in Ormskirk he married Mary Barton 1703 in Burscough Lancashire.
Can you please guide to in the right direction to prove or disprove that my Ashton family connects to the Ashton family of Croston and Penketh.
Peter