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Title: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Moosie100 on Thursday 12 June 14 16:21 BST (UK)
I am looking for the burial place of the REV Julius Benn who is buried in the Matlock area in 1883 after being murdered by his son William Rutherford Benn.
Regards]

William
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Friday 13 June 14 16:00 BST (UK)
According to the Probate Record, he was a "dissenting minister", so that might rule out any local CoE graveyards.

Have you tried the local council - Derbyshire Dales - to see if they have any cemetary listings?

STG
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 13 June 14 16:35 BST (UK)
According to the newspaper reports he was a Congregationalist Minister, residing at 119 Stepney Green, London. According to the 1881 census he had a wife and five children, his eldest son attended the inquest so it could be his body was returned to London for burial.

Stan
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 13 June 14 16:47 BST (UK)
In the 1871 Census he had eight children in London, so it is more than likely that his body was returned to London for a family funeral.

Stan
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 13 June 14 18:55 BST (UK)
I would also assume the funeral service would be held in his church.
Stan
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Moosie100 on Friday 13 June 14 18:58 BST (UK)
Hi Stan,
Thanks for the information. I believe the body was left in the area due to the fact it was a bad corpse and the newspapers reports he was buried locally.
I'am not sure of the Matlock area so not sure what cemeteries are there.
Regards
William
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Moosie100 on Friday 13 June 14 19:03 BST (UK)
just seen the message from  smalltowngirl.
 I was hoping that the Derbyshire sales were online but not available yet.
May have to travel up that way to check the records
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Priscilla on Friday 13 June 14 19:33 BST (UK)
Have you seen this ...

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=125428574

If you Google "Rev Julius Benn"  you will find lots of information - including the fact that Tony Benn was a descendant.

Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Friday 13 June 14 19:56 BST (UK)
May have to travel up that way to check the records

The flaw with that plan is that you don't know they've got what you're looking for.  Try this link

http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/record_office/records/

Then, if they confirm they have the set you're after, maybe some kind soul would do the look-up for you.

Or, if the local Council don't come up trumps, perhaps you could try Derbyshire Family History Society.

http://www.dfhs.org.uk/

STG
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Moosie100 on Saturday 14 June 14 09:34 BST (UK)
I know about the findagrave article as I wrote it and go by the name of Moosie, but thank you for checking for me and replying.
I will contact the record office on Monday and see what records they hold and thanks for the tip, live in London so could of been a wasted journey.
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Trish1908 on Friday 10 October 14 12:26 BST (UK)
In the British Library 19th C newspaper archive -The 'Sheffield and Rotherham, Independent', dated Mar 7, 1883 has a long article about the inquest, but then a shorter para re the Reverend's career. This last paragrpah states:

The body of the Rev Julius Benn was taken to London by the train leaving Matlock Bridge at 5.24pm, and will be interred in Ilford Cemetary on Thursday

Hope this helps in your search
T1908
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 10 October 14 12:30 BST (UK)
According to the 1881 census he had a wife and five children, his eldest son attended the inquest so it could be his body was returned to London for burial.

Stan

In the British Library 19th C newspaper archive -The 'Sheffield and Rotherham, Independent', dated Mar 7, 1883 has a long article about the inquest, but then a shorter para re the Reverend's career. This last paragrpah states:

The body of the Rev Julius Benn was taken to London by the train leaving Matlock Bridge at 5.24pm, and will be interred in Ilford Cemetary on Thursday



Just as I assumed  :)

Stan
Title: Re: REV JULIUS BENN - MATLOCK 1883 Murder - Burial Location
Post by: Moosie100 on Monday 13 October 14 19:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information  and taking the time to help out. Spoke to the cemetery and they confirm he is in IIford so a mystery now solved.
Thank you