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I'm currently researching Thomas FOSTER (b. c.1849 in Elm nr Wisbech - d. 1931 in Lincoln) and have him on every census except the '71, when he would have been aged about 22, around the time he must have been making his way in the world. I believe that his parents were Thomas Foster, a farmer (b. c.1822 in Walsoken, Norfolk) and Susannah Batterham GREEVES, who were married in 1847. Can anyone place Thos jnr in 1871?
- 1849 - baptised 24 May, Elm
- 1851 census - Elm; born Elm
- 1861 census - Friday Bridge, Elm; born Elm
- 1871 - ??
- 1876 - married Hannah Cass BASSETT in Lincoln
- 1881 census - 31 Burton Road, Lincoln; occ. House painter; born Friday Bridge
- 1884 (baptism of four of his children) - 31 Burton Road, Lincoln; occ. Painter
- 1891 census - 63 Burton Road, Lincoln; occ. Painter; born Wisbe[a]ch
- 1901 census - 63 Burton Road, Lincoln; occ. House painter; born Wisbech
- 1911 census - 63 Burton Road, Lincoln; occ. House painter; born Elm
- 1931 - buried 11 Jun, St Nicholas, Lincoln
Many thanks for any light anyone can shed,
Paul
Edit: P.S. I also haven't yet been able to find his future wife, Hannah Cass Bassett, in 1871.
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Hmm ... as he becomes a painter, I wonder if he did an apprenticeship? If so, he may be with whoever he was apprenticed too and recorded incorrectly on the census - maybe wrongly spelt surname or place of birth.
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That's a good idea; one I'll keep an eye out for.
Edit: P.S. I also haven't yet been able to find his future wife, Hannah Cass Bassett, in 1871.
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Have you got their marriage cerificate, who is Hannah's father?
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Hi Groom, her father was Edward/Edwin Bassett, Hannah C is on 1861 RG09/2361/110/22 but not with family in 1871 RG10/3374/15/22
Keyboard
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There's an Annie Bassett the right age working as a servant in a school in Lincoln on 1871 - RG10, 3373, 82, 24.
Hannah does sometimes become Anna (and vice versa)
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Thanks - that certainly looks promising for Hannah. (She appears as Anna on later records, so Annie would be no surprise). Mantle's school in Northgate was where the Lincoln Cathedral choristers were sent.
Many thanks.
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There's a T J Foster, born Cambs Wisbeach, aged 25 (three years out), boarder in the home of Christopher Watson at 134 Southgate Road, St John At Hackney, London, in RG10/317/97/63.
His occupation seems to be given as Accountant; quite a way from House painter. But I can't see this T J Foster before or after the '71. I wonder if that's him?
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Hi again, have you checked to see if he could be ie in the Army?
Keyboard86
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Wrong occupation, wrong age, wrong part of the country. Not even convinced about the initials. Not a lot going for it!
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Thanks all. Yeah, it's a bit dubious, isn't it. :-\
The army or apprenticeship seems most likely.
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I've still not managed a convincing sighting of Thomas Foster (1849-1931) in the 1871 census.
But it turns out that Thomas' father---also Thomas Foster (c.1822-1896?)---has got his own interesting and slightly puzzling census 'career':
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Born c.1822 in Walsoken, Norfolk (according to censuses. Not found a baptism record/transcription yet). Father is Thomas Foster, farmer (according to marriage record).
1841 census - there are too many undifferentiated Thomas Fosters of about the right age in Norfolk/Cambs. I haven't been able to narrow down the field.
Married Susannah Batterham GREEVES, 6 May 1847 in Tydd St Giles, Cambs (the bride's home parish).
1851 census: with wife Susannah and son Thomas, plus a Greeves relative and two servants, in Elm, Wisbech, Cambs. Thomas' occupation: farmer of 205 acres employing 4 labourers.
1861 census: this is where it starts to gets odd. Susannah B. is at home in Friday Bridge, Wisbech with a growing family. Her occupation: "fund holder"[?]... Thomas sr. isn't with them, but Susannah is listed as "mar", not widowed. The best fit for Thomas sr. in terms of age and birthplace on the '61 census is one Thomas Foster, a single(!!!) railway guard, b. Walsoken, Norfolk c.1821, boarding at Rutland House, Swansea, Glamorgan (RG9/4101/34/7). Is this him? Had he got a job on the railways and was travelling away from home - or had he even gone AWOL from his family for a while? Or am I getting carried away with one of the several similar Thomas Fosters that seem to be around the place (in which case, where is my Thomas in 1861?)? If I could find any railway employment record for Swansea Thomas Foster it might clear things up, but that will have to wait until I can get to the public library to search Ancestry.
1871 census: oh look, he's back with Susannah and yet more children, at 42 Albert Street, Wisbech. Occ: unemployed labourer. [What happened to the farm!? ...and the railway job?] His and his wife's birthplaces have been transposed, but I'm fairly sure it's them alright. This is also the missing year for my original Thomas Foster jr.
1881 census: at 43 Albert Street, Wisbech. Occ: millwright's assistant [of course].
1891 census: at 57 Albert Street, Wisbech. Retired farmer. With a hitherto-as-yet unmentioned son, Henry W. Foster, and daughter Maud [?where did they come from?].
Death registered Q3 1896 of Thomas Foster, aged 75, in Wisbech. This is probably him, but I haven't ordered the cert. yet.
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Something just doesn't quite sit right with all of these.
Paul
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Thanks to the work that Findmypast have done to index the Lincolnshire parish registers I've now found Thomas Foster (the younger)'s marriage to Hannah Cass Bassett in 1876.
Lincoln St Nicholas, p. 214, no. 428
1876 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Nicholas Lincoln in the County of Lincoln
June 29
Thomas Foster, full age, Bachelor, Painter, St Pauls - father Thomas Foster, [no occupation given]
Hannah Cass Bassett, full age, Spinster, , Stonefield House - father Edwin Bassett, [no occupation]
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Thomas Foster [signed], Hannah Cass Bassett [signed]
Witnesses Edwin Bassett [signed], Emma Bassett [signed]
So Thomas wasn't married before.
Paul