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Title: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 16:45 BST (UK)
Looking for any living relatives of Mary Finn 61 who lived in Gorton Street Manchester.  On the 1911 census she is listed as having  lodgers - name Fletcher aged 36 widow and Berty Fletcher 13.

Any help will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 July 14 19:14 BST (UK)
Hello,

Is this her?  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWB2-74T

Do you have her in other censuses? What do you know about her?
Rootschat is for family history rather than tracing living people.

Regards
Heywood
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 20:59 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information.  It certainly looks like it might be.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 July 14 21:12 BST (UK)
I think it probably is her.

Are you trying to find her family in previous censuses or do you have them?
If you do, have you then looked at their marriages etc.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 21:36 BST (UK)
Until today I had never heard of Mary Finn.  I received my Grandads Army Records today and he had her down as Aunt,NOK.

As far as we were concerned he arrived from Southern Ireland in @1923, having joined the Army and on his marriage certificate his Father was a Farmer deceased.  No mention was ever made of any family to my Nan or my Dad.

Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 July 14 21:48 BST (UK)
So it may not be her? Did he come from Roscommon?
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 02 July 14 21:56 BST (UK)
I was going to ask how you knew the Mary Finn with the Fletcher lodgers was her, as there is another Mary Finn in the Gorton area.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:01 BST (UK)
The Mary Finn as NOK lived at 154 Taylor Street Gorton, that is all I know.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:03 BST (UK)
My Grandad came from Clonmel.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:04 BST (UK)
In that case, it might be best to work backwards and see how she is related to your Grandad. Was he also a Finn?
Do you have his parents names?
She was Roscommon, I think.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:14 BST (UK)
He was Michael Joseph Leonard, his Father was John  (only know this as it is on Grandads marriage certificate.) So you can see what problems I have had.

I will have to close now, but will return tomorrow.  I appreciate your help.

Maureen.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:15 BST (UK)
Ok, now you say the address is Taylor St, not Gorton St as per the opening post, this makes sense.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Wednesday 02 July 14 22:19 BST (UK)
Sorry for the mis-information, as you have probably seen, this has all been a huge surprise.  I look forward to any help or advice and will return in the morning.  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Thursday 03 July 14 10:36 BST (UK)
I hadn't noticed the address. 
I can't see a definite Mary Finn in earlier censuses   :-\  I think that Berty might be Bertram Ernest Fletcher born Manchester but again - can't see him in 1901. They may just be lodgers but you never know they could be related.

While searching, I saw your earlier post where you mention Michael Joseph Leonard born 1904. Is that the same person?

What year does he give Mary Finn as his NOK? 

Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Thursday 03 July 14 11:31 BST (UK)
Thank you.  Michael Joesph Leonard was my Grandfather.  He arrived in the UK 1923 having enlisted in the British Army.  Why he put Mary Finn down as his next of kin I have no idea.  Yesterday was the first time I had heard the name.  We have always been lead to believe he was orphaned at an early age, he had put his father's name on his marriage certificate as John Leonard, farmer, deceased.
I have also requested his Free State Army records from Dublin, but these take a few weeks. (something else we knew nothing about).
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Thursday 03 July 14 11:38 BST (UK)
He's becoming a bit of a revelation to you then!

It could be perhaps, that he was lodging with Mary Finn and she was therefore a handy 'NOK'

Also Clonmel, as I think you already know, was a barracks town so he may have put that as his birthplace rather than last place of residence.

Have you not got a birth record for him?
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Thursday 03 July 14 11:44 BST (UK)
Certainly a man of mystery!!  We have no birth record at all, my Nan and Dad said he had told them he came from Clonmel but that was probably just convenient!  I am hoping when I receive the records from Dublin that they will shed more light on him, parentage, birth place etc.  Have to keep everything crossed.  I will let you know how I get on.  Thank you so much for your help.
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: heywood on Thursday 03 July 14 12:12 BST (UK)
Good luck and please do let us know - it's intriguing  :)
Title: Re: Mary Finn
Post by: epernay lady on Thursday 03 July 14 12:17 BST (UK)
I will. Thank you.