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Title: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Thursday 03 July 14 08:24 BST (UK)
I have this family in 1901 census but there is no sign of them in the 1881 or 1891 census, perhaps someone else can find them for me.


Address in 1901 6 Hampden Street, Walton On The Hill Liverpool.

All have the surname Lea

John H b 1849 Journeyman Joiner, head
Elizabeth Ann  b 1850 wife
William b 1878 journeyman baker son
Emma A b 1874
Amelia b 1875
Louisa b 1877
All except his wife was born in Liverpool
I have search for them but have had no luck.

Thank you

Lynne
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 08:37 BST (UK)
Hi
1881
3 Hartnup Place, Everton
John Lea  34 born Kirkdale Joiner
 Elizabeth A. Lea  35 born Cornwall
 Emma E. Lea  10 born Everton
 Emelia Lea  9 born Everton
 Louisa Lea  7 born Everton
 William Lea  4 born Everton
 Margaretta Lea  2 born Kirkdale
 Esther Lea  1 month born Kirkdale

3669/136/57


Heather 
 
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: sgf28 on Thursday 03 July 14 08:42 BST (UK)
1891 Census at 17 Humber St, Kirkdale, Liverpool:

John Lea

DoB:abt 1848
Born: Kirkdale
Relation:Head
Spouse: Elizabeth A Lea

Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 08:45 BST (UK)
There is a death for Esther Lea born 1881 in April quarter 1881
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 08:47 BST (UK)
Margaretta Lea death April quarter 1881 aged 2
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 08:53 BST (UK)
1891
John Lea  43 Labourer at docks
 Elizabeth A Lea  44 born Cornwall
 Emma E Lea  20 Dressmaker
 Amelia Lea  19 At home
 Louisa Lea  17 Milliner
 William Lea  14 At Home
 John Lea  1
2962/49/5
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 08:56 BST (UK)
My money would be on Amelia being John's mother ;)
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Thursday 03 July 14 09:05 BST (UK)
Thank you so much I have been on findmypast this morning and all that came up for this family was the 1901 census? Can I be cheeky and ask if you can find them on 1911 census.

Thank you so much

Lynne
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Thursday 03 July 14 09:07 BST (UK)
Is John Lea age 1 down as grandson?

Lynne
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 03 July 14 10:29 BST (UK)
John is not down as grandson but as there is a gap of 13 years between him and William I just wondered. Unmarried Amelia stays with her parents and John.

We can't post 1911 details on the board.

Heather

post corrected
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Thursday 03 July 14 13:03 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Heather  :)
Lynne
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 03 July 14 18:13 BST (UK)
marriage
Marriage: 12 Jul 1869 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
John Lea - full age, Joiner, Bachelor, Kirkdale
Elizabeth Ann Johns - (X), full age, Spinster, Kirkdale
    Groom's Father: William Lea, Labourer
    Bride's Father: Joseph Johns, Mariner
    Witness: William Sutton; Jessie Cochrane

don`t think John Lea was Amelias child ...look at this baptism record

Baptism: 28 Jul 1889 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
John Lea - [Child] of John Lea & Elizabeth Ann
    Born: 16 Jun 1889
    Abode: 46 Chirkdale St
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: T. J. Pritchard
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Friday 04 July 14 08:48 BST (UK)
Thank you so much I am doing this for a friend she is also my sons carer, my son is 33 and has learning difficulties, she is a wonderful woman and she will be so excited when she brings him home tonight and I can tell her all that has been found out about her ancestors.

Lynne  :)
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Friday 04 July 14 17:47 BST (UK)
I have been looking for them for the last 2 hours in the 1871 census and I cant find them don't know where I'm going wrong can someone please see if they can find them

Thank you Lynne
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: garstonite on Friday 04 July 14 18:14 BST (UK)
Have you looked under Lee as well as Lea ??
ADDED
well - here they are ...
John Lea aged 24
Elizabeth A Lea b Cornwall aged 25 ....
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KD6M-6BP

but - who is Emma E Lea daughter aged 5 ...they married in 1869 - both Full Age ...so when Emma E Lea is born they are 18 /19 ...so it looks like one of them - couldn`t sign for the marriage because their parents wouldn`t allow it ....I will look for Emma`s baptism
added again ...Emma Elizabeth Lea is born dec qtr 1870 West Derby ,Liverpool - maybe this is her ...I wonder if that record should read 5 months and not 5 ??
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 04 July 14 20:45 BST (UK)
1871
5 Ewbank? Street, Everton
John Lea  24 Ship Joiner
 Elizabeth L Sea  25
 Emma E Lea  5
46/135/3816/101/31

Try looking for John Sea
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: garstonite on Friday 04 July 14 21:02 BST (UK)
1871
5 Ewbank? Street, Everton
John Lea  24 Ship Joiner
 Elizabeth L Sea  25
 Emma E Lea  5
46/135/3816/101/31

Try looking for John Sea
pretty certain this is them Heather - but Emma E Lea is 5 ....John and Elizabeth Ann married in 1869 ...I think that should read 5 months - and not 5 for Emma ...
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 04 July 14 22:05 BST (UK)
Like you, I think that it should be 5 months but just says 5 on the sheet. She was 10 in 1881 ;D
Title: Re: Cant find this family in 1881 or 1891
Post by: tenby tart on Saturday 05 July 14 07:57 BST (UK)
Thank you  ;)