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Title: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: lyrical1953 on Saturday 05 July 14 14:19 BST (UK)
I am researching my ancestors in the Stoke on Trent area and have a query regarding my Grt/Grt Aunt who died in 1941 On her death notice it states the address as 578 Newcastle Road, which I now understand was a workhouse. However there is another address listed as her residence. Does this mean she was a patient in the hospital or was she actually an inmate? I know she is buried in Hanley cemetery, sadly there is no headstone to mark her grave. If anyone can help I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 05 July 14 20:19 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

It's very likely she was being looked after in the hospital part of the WH - you can read about it here

http://www.thepotteries.org/tour/020.htm
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: lyrical1953 on Saturday 05 July 14 20:31 BST (UK)
Hi Carolew,

 Thank you for that link, most informative. When I told my dad she had died in a workhouse he said he did not think it was very likely as the family in Stoke was so large. I know she was a widow and had one living daughter at the time of her death, but whether she lived in the same area I have failed to find out. More research needed me thinks.
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 05 July 14 20:41 BST (UK)
Hi

Somebody once told me that pre-1948 when the NHS was introduced - people had to pay the GP for visits/treatment.  If somebody was long term ill, it could get very expensive.  Also, poor people would find it difficult to find the money.  The GP could then recommend or suggest they receive treatment in the WH infirmary
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: lyrical1953 on Saturday 05 July 14 20:53 BST (UK)
Thats just what I wanted to hear, thank you. I know from records that my ancestors were not well off, most were either miners or worked in the potteries. In fact the aunt in question is listed as a potter/ warehouse person in 1911 census. My Dad remembers attending a funeral in Hanley around 1941 but cannot remember any details as he was only about 12 yrs old, but as she was his Dad's half sister it sounds likely it was hers. I have relatives in Staffs and with their help have been able to piece together some sort of family history. Evidently our surname, Sims, was very popular around the Stoke area, during the 70's/early 80's in Ipstones, Kingsley and Foxt. Later the family seemed to settle around Hanley. Thank you so much again for the info.
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road's
Post by: Jacqui Murtough on Thursday 22 March 18 00:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,  I found this chat today,  and am interested to see what you discovered?  I received my brother's death cert today which states he died at one hour old at 578 Newcastle Rd ud.  I wondered what this hospital was,  as originally I had assumed that it was Longton Village Hospital where he died.  I know the family were not well off as my mum and dad had been de-mobbed at the end of 1945/1946.  My family were all involved in the potteries or coal minings.

Regards
Jacqui
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 22 March 18 00:45 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

You don’t say what year your brother died but 578 Newcastle Rd was shown on birth certs rather than the term “Workhouse”

It was known as The Spittals WH and the name was later changed to the London Rd Hospital & Institution.

In 1945 it became City General. See www.ThePotteries.org

Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: Jacqui Murtough on Thursday 22 March 18 00:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you Carole W.  He died in 1948
Regards
Jacqui
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: ChrissieL on Friday 23 March 18 14:29 GMT (UK)
In fact, some older residents in the Potteries still refer to the hospital as 'London Road'

Chris
Title: Re: 578 Newcastle Road
Post by: BoslemBoy on Friday 23 March 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
I was born at 578 in the mid-1940s (at least my birth certificate tells me so):  it was the official registry address for what people usually called the City General Hospital or, as Chrissie says, London Road.  Some confusion is caused by the hospital being on the Stoke/Newcastle-under-Lyme border, and I seem to remember the A34 at that point changes from London Road to Newcastle Road.  I was pre-NHS but was not born in the workhouse!

BB