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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Jerseyfox on Monday 07 July 14 21:22 BST (UK)
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Looking for birth family
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Do you know what county Ballyamon is in?
I can see a lot of debate on line about it, some people think it's in Wexford, it not coming up in the Townland Database or Griffith's Valuation.
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I came up with this town of birth from two family trees on ancestry. They listed Kings Co. (which is also known as Offaly). Neither tree had primary records with that information. I have posted a query re same on both trees.
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply
Warm Regards
Jerseyfox
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Think they may be saying Offaly as that's where the name Duplex occurs in Griffith's Valuation, but there are also records showing in Dublin, and one in Roscommon.
Did Sarah stay in Ireland, marry in Ireland?
It would be good to see the original of Ballyamon as people here may be able to figure out where it is.
I have a few thoughts to follow up.
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Reportedly Sarah was born, 1826 in Ballyamon, Kings (or Affley) Co., to JOHN DUPLEX [Dupleix], b. 1778 in Althlone, Westmeath, and a Deborah Martin. Sarah ,unmarried, arrived in New York City 5 May 1848 with her brother Robert who apparently planned to marry a U.S. citizen, Malvina Unknown and move to Toronto. She then was recorded in Montreal in May of 1849 where she married a John Wilkes of "The Queens Light Dragoons." They were married in the "Wee Kirk" (Erskine Presbyterian)[Drouin Collection on Ancestry] formed by Secessionists from the Church of Scotland. I wondered why Montreal, but that church history shows institution of a Duplex Weekly Offering Envelope in 1908 which leads me to guess she may well of had family in Montreal.
Some time between 1861 & 1871 they moved to Toronto. They had six children; Sarah was widowed at age 46 but lived to age 92 in Toronto.
My husband is descended from their daughter Sarah Jane who married a John Titus Caldwell in Toronto in 1874 at Knox Presbyterian Church. Our Caldwell's were brought to Toronto as skilled Wallpaper craftsmen by the Moses Staunton Co. of Belfast, and our line followed that trade into Buffalo, NY, New Brunswick, NJ and York, PA. It was only that marriage record held by our family and vague references to them being Scots Presbyterians from near Glasgow that lead me over numerous years to tracing the family.
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Ive been looking for possibilities for Ballyamon in Offaly.
Most likely Ballynanum
Ballyoran
Ballynolan
Ballynamona
Ballinoman
Ballinamoe
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Perhaps it would be easier to find her father John b. 1778 or brother Richard b. 1821 both in Athlone, Westmeath. Richard was a carpenter. Perhaps in Scots-Presbyterian records, a marriage or baptism.
It is always invigorating to correspond with a dedicated genealogist. I have been active with multiple family trees since 2000 when I retired as a nurse-mental health counselor. My maternal grandfather was my muse; an inveterate letter writer who traveled to find records. Besides my Caldwells we are also descended from O'Donnells in Killybegg. Also Irish was my paternal grandmother whom I only saw twice in my life. She was an Irene Elizabeth Martin, was estranged from my father. All I know was that she was born to a James Patrick Martin and a Mary Maloney in Bridgeport CT. They family worked for the Warner Bra & Girdle Factory. These common Irish names have left me no hook to use in a Irish search.
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Wow there are so many variations on the name.
But a Sarah, Richard or John at the right time, no.
There are some Dupleacks/Dupleakks in Westmeath in the early 1700s.
This may be of interest
http://www.athlone.ie/genealogy/church-and-state-records
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I wonder if this is John
1815 Accounts and Papers relating to Increase and Diminution of Salaries in Public Offices of Ireland
Milltary - Ordance Office
William Weaver, esquire, Storekeeper, Athlone £85
Mr. J. Dupleix, 1st Clerk to ditto £20
Found it here http://www.traceyclann.com/files/Roscommon.htm
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There is also a mention of a Thomas Duplex of Anneskenane Westmeath in legal papers 1717 to 1720 in the D'Arcy of Hyde Park Papers in the National Library of Ireland.
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Here is a reply I received from a duplex tree owner on ancesstry:
Subject: Sarah Duplex Dupleix
Hi My information as sketchy as it is comes from handwritten notes by Sarah Deborah Dupleix's daughter Charlotte Deborah Finney.
As written:
1st son-John Dupleix Jun born Sept 16 1813 died Oct 1813 buried in St Marys Parish Church Athlone
2nd son-Henry Drummond born Nov 25 1814 Athlone
3rd son-William born 25 Jan 1817 Athlone
1st daughter Elizabeth born Mar 31 1819 Athlone
4th son Richard born oct 4 1821 Athlone
? Anne Dupleix born Mar 14 1824 Ballylamon Kings Co.
Daughter Kathrin Dupleix born Aug 31 1826
5th son Robert Dupleix born Ap 19 1831 in Ballylamon (married Ann Seale - issue Sarah, John, Alicia)
Re-married - issue Richard, William, Charlotte, Harriet, Emily, Robert
So while it is not a definite birthplace it is a starting point as it took me a long time to be convinced of Ann & Sarah being one and the same person. I recently found in the 1901 census Canada stating Sarah Wilkes birthday as March 14 1826 & that was close enough for me to be almost certain that the Anne that my Great Aunt Charlotte has listed is the Sarah in so many Wilkes trees.
Hope that helps.
Lisa
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Good woman Great Aunt Charlotte for writing all that down. With nothing else to go by that would be enough but assuming Sarah and Annie are the same person without a bit more proof is a step too far.
There is talk of the baptism records held in the National Archives or is it the National Library, anyway, of them going online. When or with who no one knows yet but hopefully you'll get your answer than.
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See 1911 census of 1 Killantanagh,Kilmacshane,Galway
Finney. Richard W age 54.
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Marriage in Parsonstown April June 1889 Vol 3 page 393
Richard William Finney and Sarah Deborah Dupleix.
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rootsireland (paysite)has 3 Baptismal records for Dupleix in Offaly
Catherine & Sarah (no year given)
Robert 1831
Might be worthwhile checking it out.
annclare
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If her brother Robert returned to Ireland then I suspect this is the Dupleix family from Belmont in Co. Offaly. I came across them in my own research, though they are unrelated to me.
A Robert Dupleix was a shopkeeper there from the 1860s. His name was mis-transcribed as Patrick in the 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Lumcloom/Bellmount_or_Lisderg/1463269/). He married twice - first to Eliza Seale in 1861 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGCZ-SF9) but she died in 1871, and secondly to Anne Johnston in 1872. The 1872 marriage cert lists Robert's father as John Dupleix, a farmer.
The Calendar of Wills (http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie) at the National Archives has wills for Anna in 1903, and probably Robert in 1907, so that would explain why they're not in the 1911 census.
Do you think this Robert could be your Sarah's brother?
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Tisaran Church of Ireland Burial Records
John Du Pleix; Ballylamman(?); Buried: 15 Jul 1860; Age: 83.
Deborah Du Pleix; Belmount; Buried: 3 Jun 1862; Age: 74.
Tisaran is near Belmont.
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Looking on offaly.rootsireland.ie index....
A Robert Dupleix, son of John and Deborah, was baptised in Ferbane CofI in 1831. Ferbane is near Belmont.
Also baptised in Ferbane were Sarah and Catherine Dupleix, with parents John and Deborah, but with no dates given. It would be worth taking a look at the microfilm of these records to see if the date is legible.