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Title: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Wednesday 09 July 14 08:30 BST (UK)
Hi, struggling a bit with the above, I would like to learn about her parents, I have her wed to John Gowen 1871 but that is it.
Any ideas ??

Thanks.
John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 09 July 14 08:59 BST (UK)
Could this be her on the 1861 census?

Edward Wearn, 30 unmarried, gen labourer b Norwich
Emily Eary, 20, unmarried housekeeper b Holbrook
Mary A Eary, 8 natural daughter b Norwich
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Wednesday 09 July 14 10:06 BST (UK)
Hello Miriamkinga, thanks for that, is it possible to get her parents?

Thanks again

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 09 July 14 10:16 BST (UK)
Do you mean Emily's parents?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Wednesday 09 July 14 10:27 BST (UK)
No my friend, Mary Ann Eary, Mum & Dad but then is Emily a sister too so she may have the same parents.

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 09 July 14 10:32 BST (UK)
If that is the correct census entry I have found for 1861 then it would appear that Mary Ann is the natural daughter (illegitimate) of Emily Eary and Edward Wearn.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: Yorkslass on Wednesday 09 July 14 11:05 BST (UK)
You don't mention whether you have Mary Ann's marriage certificate from 1871.

If not, here is the entry in the Great Yarmouth registers - you'll see that Mary Ann's father's name has been left blank, suggesting she was illegitimate.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11775-163073-27?cc=1416598

It seems though that Edward Wearn acknowledged she was his daughter, so I'm wondering whether her birth/baptism might be registered in his name.

Bit doubtful about the ages on the census entry though - if Mary Ann was 8 in 1861, and her mother Emily 20, it would mean that Emily was only 12/13 when she gave birth!!

Yorkslass
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: Annette7 on Wednesday 09 July 14 11:14 BST (UK)
Her marriage on 12/3/1871 St. Nicholas, Gt. Yarmouth to John Gowen, Fisherman, has no father listed for her, confirming illegitimacy.   She is also shown as aged 20 when only 17/18.

Her mother Emily appears to be the Amelia Emily Eary bp.6/5/1838 Holbrook, Suffolk, dau. of John and Mary Ann - so, Emily only 15/16 when Mary Ann born.

Edward's surname actually Wenn - Edward Wenn married Amelia Emily Eary Sept.qtr.1864 Norwich but can't find any trace of them after the marriage.

Annette
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 09 July 14 11:14 BST (UK)
Just checked census - transcript says age 20 image says 22  :)
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Wednesday 09 July 14 11:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Annette7 & Miriamkinga, when ever a name passes through my John Gowen it always throws up a headache for me, it does not surprise me the wrong ages/names or even place names, I think this is the best it is ever going to get.

Thanks again

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Saturday 12 July 14 08:41 BST (UK)
Trying to find out more about John & Mary Ann Eary, BMD if possible , their daughter Amelia Emily Eary born 1840/41 Holbrook in Suffolk, but did move around quite a bit.

Thanks

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 12 July 14 12:16 BST (UK)
Her parents married in Holbrook:

John Aery, widower married Mary Ann Mills 28/9/1832 Holbrook, Suffolk

Annette
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Saturday 12 July 14 12:56 BST (UK)
Thanks Annette7, brilliant, is it possible to find (a) who he wed first & (b) any children with either spouses.

Thanks Annette7

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 12 July 14 13:26 BST (UK)
This is such a difficult surname to work with, with so many spelling variations.

I've found the burial of a Mary Ann Eary aged 38 (bc.1815) who was buried 1/5/1853 at St. Peter Mancroft, Norwich.

In a different Norwich parish there supposedly a burial (source FreeReg) of a John Eary, infant, on 18/5/1853 St. Michael, Coslany, Norwich and wondered if possibly mother and son.

However, you can view the original records for both these churches on familysearch and the John Eary burial is simply not there for that date (although death index shows a John Eary died Jun.qtr.1853 Norwich).

Haven't been able to find John and Mary Ann in 1851 census.

Annette   
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Saturday 12 July 14 15:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Annette, any children at all ?

John
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 12 July 14 15:20 BST (UK)
No, I can find nothing else for this family at all.

Annette
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: candrjm on Saturday 12 July 14 16:17 BST (UK)
Could this be a child of Mary Ann and John Eary?

1861 Census
3 Records found
    
        
   
Piece: RG9/1246 Place: Walsingham -Norfolk Enumeration District: 14
Civil Parish: Sharrington Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 167B Page: 9 Schedule: 10
Address: Ash Yard

        Surname       First name(s)       Rel       Status       Sex       Age       Occupation       Where Born       Remarks   
        BANGAY       William       Head       W       M       69       Farmer 46 Acres Emp 2 Lab        Norfolk - Sharrington           
        SPENCER       John       Nephew       U       M       29       Harness Maker        Norfolk - Beighton(Originally: Norfolk - Beinton)           
        EARY       Mary Ann       Niece       U       F       18       Housekeeper        Norfolk - Stratton Strawless           
    



Link to marriage cert:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11622-56848-9?cc=1416598&wc=92BL-FMT:30183101,29373001,30034901
Title: Re: Mary Ann Eary 1853 Norwich
Post by: James2you on Saturday 12 July 14 20:53 BST (UK)
Thanks All....


John