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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: rosemaryag on Saturday 12 July 14 17:27 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I would really appreciate a fresh mind to help me find where Steel LAMBERT was born and who his parents are.
As you can see, I know a lot about him, but can't find his baptism anywhere.
Help! Please :D
thanks in advance for any advice
Rosemary
I have the following info on him:
Born about 1776 (based on age at death of "in 83rd year") - I've checked the Great Dunmow CofE baptisms on Seax from 1770-1786 with no joy - no Lamberts at all.
Steel married Elizabeth WILSHER 25 Oct 1796 at Great Easton, Essex by licence; Steel described as otp, Elizabeth as otp formerly of Great Tey. [Note: haven't checked Great Easton records for his baptism as don't currently have access to Seax.]
Children all born Great Dunmow, some baptised at Coggeshall Independent Chapel: William (b1800); Jane (b1802); Elizabeth (b1805); George (b1807); Ann (b1809); Joseph (b1811).
1841 Census - residence Great Dunmow.
20 Sept 1848 married Jemima Elizabeth FOX at Independent Chapel, Great Dunmow - just received marriage certificate from GRO = widower and widow but no fathers' names/occupations (boo!). Steel described as a Corn Factor
1851 Census: Can't find them; apparently returns for Great Dunmow are missing.
1858 24 March - death of Steel reported in 2nd April ed. of Chelmsford Chronicle "24th ult., at Great Dunmow, suddenly, in his 83rd year, Mr Steel Lambert, many years miller of that place."
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This is not your man but I found this on familysearch.org
Steel Lambert
baptised 02/07/1826
Gt Dunmow
parents William and Mary
Louisa Maud
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Hi Louisa,
thanks for looking! That is actually a grandson of the Steel Lambert I'm asking about - his older sister Sophia (b1824 at Dunmow) is my direct ancestor.
My difficulty is that even with the unusual first name, I can't find the birth/baptism of Steel born about 1776.
thanks
Rosemary
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Hi
I tried G**gling this family and someone left a post on another site who believes that Steel could be the son of a JEFFERY and MARTHA Lambert.
In the 1798 land tax records for Great Easton/Eiston there is a Jeffery Lambert a tenant of a Rev. Mr Tayleure.
In Great Dunmow there is a Mr Lambert living in his own property, no forename given.
claire
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No help on your original question, but found following;
Register of Births and Baptisms at the Independent Congregation at Great Stoneham Street, Coggeshall, Essex from 1773 to 1821
George Lambert, born 31 Mar 1807, bapt 14 Jun 1815, residence Great Dunmore, s/o Steel and Elizabeth Lambert.
Ann Lambert, born 31 March 1809, also bapt 14 Jun 1815, ditto.
Joseph Lambert, born 14 May 1811, also bapt 14 Jun 1815, ditto.
Jo :)
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Hi Claire
interesting / hadn't found Jeffrey Lambert before - and can't find that hit myself (my google-fu must be weak) but will definitely take that as inspiration to search through the Great Easton baptism records when I next subscribe to Seax.
thanks very much
Rosemary
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Hi Jo,
thanks for looking & taking an interest - I had spotted those baptisms already, but thanks for pointing them out in case I hadn't.
- do you have any brilliant ideas of where to look that I haven't thought of?
thanks
Rosemary
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Hi
Have you relatives you can pinpoint in Great Canfield ?
Found this obit. in The Bury and Norwich Post, and East Anglian on Wednesday, July 1, 1840.
" On the 17th at Great Canfield Park at the residence of his son-in-law aged 94, Jeffery Lambert, late of Blamsters Hall, Great Easton. "
There was also mention of an auction to sell off 'Buttles Farm' near Gt. Dunmow under the terms of Jeffery's Will.
From my last post the site to check is Curi*us F*x . The author of the post has left several posts.
claire
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A few snippets:
Whites directory for Great Dunmow 1848 lists Steel as a Corn Factor and a Joseph Lambert as a Corn Miller. So possibly his son Joseph - keeping up the family trade.
Also found a newspaper article from Chelmsford Chronicle 19 January 1844 which reports disorderley and riotous conduct in the Dunmow workhouse. One of the pauper inmates listed is a Steel Lambert. Would this be the grandson aged about 22? His sentence was two months hard labour.
The Cambridge Chronicle of 7 Oct 1848, reporting Steel's second marriage (20th Sept) to Mrs Fox describes him as a postmaster.
In the Essex Standard 07 September 1838, Steel is a witness at an inquest and described as the relieving officer of the Dunmow Union.
And although the report of Jefferey's death does not name the son in law, searching on newspaper archives comes up with references to J M Wilson esq residing at Great Canfield Park in 1834 and John Maryon Wilson in 1848, so as the dates encompass 1840 when Jeffrey died, this should give the lead to identifying his daughter.
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It looks like John M Wilson's wife was Charlotte Julia Wade. So not a Lambert unless she was a widow and Wade was first husband's surname. Other possibility is that Great Canfield Park was let to a tenant in 1840.
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It looks like John M Wilson's wife was Charlotte Julia Wade. So not a Lambert unless she was a widow and Wade was first husband's surname. Other possibility is that Great Canfield Park was let to a tenant in 1840.
Checked the marriage in Gt. Dunmow and Charlotte was a spinster.
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Checked the marriage in Gt. Dunmow and Charlotte was a spinster.
That's a pity, hoped we might have found the son in law. Had a look at 1841 census for Great Canfield but not found a Great Canfield Park. If Jeffrey Lambert was a farmer, possibly son-in-law might be one as well.
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Hi all,
Thanks for all these ideas... I also looked at Great Easton andGreat Canfield baptisms on Seax. I found children of Jeffrey and Martha Lambert at Great Easton from 1780, but no Steel.
Details not to hand as my laptop has just gone in for repair and I'm on a tablet!
Also looked for Jeffrey's marriage at Easton or Canfield, but no joy.
Jeffrey's will is at Essex RO though.
So still a possible candidate for Steel's father.
Will not be able to actively search this week until my laptop is back.
Thanks so much all for your ideas and research.
Rosemary
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Hallo Rosemary I was helping a friend today with their research on LAMBERT. We were looking at the records at St Michael's Church in Braintree. Then I started googling and found your query re STEEL LAMBERT. So, I'm pleased to tell you that he was born in Braintree on 8th December 1775 and baptised on 9th February 1776 at St Michael's Church. His parents were Jefffery and Martha. We think that this Martha was Jeffery's third wife. Do hope that this will be of help to you. In order to reply to you I have needed to register to RootsChat and am just hoping that I'm responding in the correct way for you to recive my message. Regards Marion
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According to his death record Jeffrey Lambert was born c1747.
This looks like his baptism.
St, Mary the Virgin, Panfield
Jeffrey Lambert
bap September 11th, 1747
son of Jeffrey and Frances.
and
St. Mary the Virgin, Gestingthorpe.
Jeffrey Lambert
Frances King
both single
March 1st, 1744.
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The following may well turn out to be a Red Herring:-
Steel Willis born 23 Feb 1748 and baptised 16 Mar 1748 at Shalford, Essex, the son of Thomas and Ann Willis.
The rareness of Steel as a first name has me wondering if at a later date a female of that Willis line might have married into your Lamberts and named a child after a brother or father etc.
Steel Willis I noted down (as a "just in case) whilst researching my own Willis line which is Shalford and Stebbing based, I haven't found a link between Thomas Willis and my Willis line but I guess there is one waiting to be found.
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The following may well turn out to be a Red Herring:-
Steel Willis born 23 Feb 1748 and baptised 16 Mar 1748 at Shalford, Essex, the son of Thomas and Ann Willis.
The rareness of Steel as a first name has me wondering if at a later date a female of that Willis line might have married into your Lamberts and named a child Steel after a brother or father etc.
Steel Willis I noted down (as a "just in case) whilst researching my own Willis line which is Shalford and Stebbing based, I haven't found a link between Thomas Willis and my Willis line but I guess there is one waiting to be found.
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I am one of the people Marion referred to above with an interest in the Lambert Family.
The information she gave I also have.
Jeffrey was born around 1719 I think at Alphamstone and died 29 Jul 1780 and buried 4 Aug 1780 at Panfield St Marys, where you can still find his Gravestone.
I have further information, but as I have only just joined Rootschat it seems I am not allowed to message you yet. Another day.
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I too am researching the Lamberts and have information to offer - and I'd love a copy of Steel's marriage record to Jemima! His name seems to come from his mother as her maiden name was Steele - Martha Steele - she was born 08/09/1754 in Finchingfield.
The attached comes from the Chelmsford Chronicle of 12.12.1851.
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Further to my post of 7 November, whilst Steel Lambert's parents were Jeffrey Lambert and Martha (Steele, of Finchingfield), we now realise that Martha was the (only) wife of the Jeffery (baptised 11 September 1747 in Panfield) the son of Jeffrey (baptised 9 June 1720 in Alphamstone) and his first wife France's King.
Martha married Jeffrey in Finchingfield on 17 June 1773 following the granting of a Marriage Licence (ERO D/AML/1773). The Parish Marriage Register entry is found on ERO Finchingfield microfiche D/P/14/4 page 50 number 199.
Steel Lambert married (secondly) Jemima Elizabeth Fox on 20 September 1848 at the Independent Chapel in Great Dunmow (ref: Great Dunmow 1848. 3Q vol 12 page 119
Marion