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Title: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: josephinemary on Saturday 19 July 14 17:43 BST (UK)
Isaac Rowlands
Age:   42
Estimated birth year:   abt 1809
Relation:   Head
Spouse's Name:   Mary Parry Rowlands
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Llanilar, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township:   Ucheldre
County/Island:   Montgomeryshire
Country:   Wales
Registration district:   Newtown
Sub-registration district:   Kerry
ED, institution, or vessel:   1a
Piece:   2497
Folio:   359
Page Number:   13
Household schedule number:   50
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Isaac Rowlands   42
Mary Parry Rowlands   24
Igdalia J Rowlands   2
Romilly L Rowlands   9 Mo
Have spent all day and getting nowhere.
Have found deaths and traced backwards but cannot find a marriage as I do not know if Marys' maiden name was Parry but she kept the name all her life.

Also looking for death of their grand daughter Ruby Roberts and any other information.Ruby Roberts, a correspondent for the Montgomeryshire Express and Radnorshire Times writing as ‘Hafren’.

Many thanks,

Josie. 
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: josephinemary on Saturday 19 July 14 17:45 BST (UK)
Sorry but forgot to add that info was from 1851 census.
Josie
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 19 July 14 18:04 BST (UK)
This looks like the sons birth  ;)

September qtr 1848 
Igdaliah John Rowland
Barnstaple    10   46

That should give mothers maiden name
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 19 July 14 18:11 BST (UK)
Is Romilly's middle name Lyndhurst  :-\

Deaths Sep 1868 
Romilly Lyndhurst Rowlands    18   
Birkenhead    8a   346

It looks as though she was buried Tregynon
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: josephinemary on Sunday 20 July 14 10:14 BST (UK)
Lyndhurst is correct and I have found this record although I did not know where she is buried. Is there any way I can find the burials in Tregynon to see if any other relatives are there?
I did wonder if Mary Parry was a Lyndhurst. It would help if I could find any marriage record for an Isaac Roylands or Royland but I have had no luck so far. Thank you so much for taking the time to look for me. Where would the records for this area be as I have no idea where places are in Wales, then or now?
Josie.
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 20 July 14 10:53 BST (UK)
GenUKI is my favourite site for working out where towns and villages are!

Here is the page for Tregynon:
http://genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MGY/Tregynon/

On that page it says that church records are available at Powys Archives:
http://pstatic.powys.gov.uk/fileadmin/Docs/archives/records_catalogue/Parish/MontPR_bi.pdf
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 July 14 11:13 BST (UK)
FindMyPast has burials for Tregynon


I did wonder if Mary Parry was a Lyndhurst.

The birth certificate for Igdaliah would give you his mothers maiden name  ;)


September qtr 1848 
Igdaliah John Rowland
Barnstaple    10   46

Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: dcbnwh on Sunday 20 July 14 11:18 BST (UK)
The baptism of Romilly is on Findmypast and there is a note at the bottom by the vicar who doubts that that Isaac and Mary Parry were actually married. As none can be found, he was probably correct.

David
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 July 14 11:24 BST (UK)
When did Isaac die.
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 20 July 14 11:53 BST (UK)
My apologies for this - but where did the name Parry come from?  :-\

1851 census she is Mary P, 1861 she is Mary P and in 1871 she is plain Mary.

Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 July 14 11:58 BST (UK)
Her death & burial are as Mary Parry Rowlands.

Romillies baptism when the marriage is queried by the clergy the names are given as 'Isaac Rowlands & Mary Parry' as though it is her surname. 
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: josephinemary on Sunday 20 July 14 12:05 BST (UK)
Well spotted David.
Have not found concrete evidence of death of either Isaac or Mary such as burial record. Where did you find her burial record. Rosie?
Thanks again. Josie.
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 July 14 12:26 BST (UK)
Findmypast has burial records for Mary in 1904 and possibly Isaac in 1880  :-\ 
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: josephinemary on Sunday 20 July 14 14:22 BST (UK)
Found them. Many thanks.
I will have to try using FindMyPast again. I fell out with them when they changed their system.
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: dcbnwh on Sunday 20 July 14 15:14 BST (UK)
Isaac is shown as a surgeon on the 1871 census and on his burial record.

There are two references to him on the Welsh Newspaper Archives (free to use). One refers to his appointment as a medical officer in 1878 and the second includes his fees for vaccinations.

http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/search/query?rows=20&query=%22isaac+rowland%22&date%5Bmin%5D=1804&date%5Bmax%5D=1919&sort=score&titles%5B%5D=Cambrian+News+and+Merionethshire+Standard

David
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 July 14 15:29 BST (UK)
Isaac is shown as a surgeon on his burial record.


I wondered what that word was after his name, I thought it was another surname to confuse us, that was why I was trying to confirm when he died  ;D
Title: Re: Please try to find this marriage.
Post by: Sian Roberts on Thursday 05 March 15 18:22 GMT (UK)
My mother is Ruby Roberts, she's very much alive! Her grandmother was Amelia (?), daughter of Isaac and Mary Parry Rowlands.   According to Mum, Amelia left the family home in the county of Powys to go to Liverpool where she was one of the first district nurses in the slums. She married Benjamin Tilston Bromley and they had several children, including a boy called Lyndhurst and a girl called Winifred, my maternal grandmother. Mary Parry Rowlands wrote poems and articles printed in the Montgomery Times. MP Rowlands died in a cottage in Llandinam at the beginning of the 20th century.  I am very keen on finding out more about the family.