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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: wee jean on Friday 25 July 14 11:07 BST (UK)
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Hello I am hoping some one maybe to help me i am trying to locate Jane Farquharson parents
this is what i do have
Regards jean
William Bisset C112585
b. 19 Oct 1805, Fetteresso,
Kincardineshire, Scotland
d. 17 Apr 1884, Aberdeenshire,
Scotland
& Jane Farquharson
b. 1829, Strachan, Aberdeen,
Scotland
m. 31 Aug 1854
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Hi Jean and welcome to rootschat the best thing to do would be to search www.Scotlandspeople for a death for Jane which will give you her parents name ..If you have not used it before it will cost you £7.00 for 30 credits it will take 6 credits to search and view the record :)
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You can also look at her marriage certificate on ScotlandsPeople, which will also tell you who her parents were.
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You might also find the 1841 and 1851 censuses useful in filling out more information on parents and siblings.
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:) Hello thank you for your reply i have tried Scotlands people and no luck William her husband died 1884 i got his death certificate . Ps i also some one on here with the family name Thornton i have Thornton in my ancestors and also my Gran was a Thornton she was born in Mayo
Kind regards Jean
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Just realised Jane was married in 1854, which was the year before the start of civil registration, so there won't be a marriage certificate. For events before 1855 in Scotland you're into using the Old Parish Registers, which are notoriously incomplete.
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Was just going to say that J M ....Jean do you have her family ?
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Hi All
Just for background, with a few errors on transcription, this looks to be 1861 and likely second marriages for both William and Jane (Emslie now explained as she showed this way on son Alfred's birth reg https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY1Q-K68). No children showing for them after Alfred.
1861:
William Besset 53 house proprietor
Jane Besset 32 b. Strathan, aberdeensh
William Besset 21 son
John Emslie 11 stepson b. Chapel Ganoch, aberdeens https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBQK-44W
James M Beset 5...must be Jane
Jean M L Beset 3...must be Joan
Jane Selter 31 boarder
Alexander Davidson 77 boarder
Rock Charles Skene 57 boarder
James Skene 8 boarder
Address: 34 Chapel St, Old Marchar
Monica
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Likely entry for Jane in 1851:
Jane Emslie 27 blacksmith's wife b. Strathon
John Emslie 1 b. Chapel Of Garioch
Jane Emslie 52 sister married b. Strathon
Address: Durno, Chapel Of Garioch
From this, Jane's birth year maybe a little earlier?
Marriage/banns show here: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTN6-PLW and https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTNR-FZB
Monica
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What do you think of this one Monical
1851 census address Durno Civil Parish Chapel of Garioch
Jane Emslie age 27 born 1824 Strathdon Aberdeen Blacksmith Wife
John Emslie aged 1 born 1850 Chapel of Garioch
Jane Emslie aged 52 born 1799 Strathdon sister
Ties up with John Emslie on the 1861 census
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Yes, I think that is them too, Rosie. Jane married a William Elmslie in 1847 it seems.
The Bisset family hard to find after 1861. I think I can see an entry for Alfred in an Industrial School in 1871....and then struggle with him. Joan Margaret must have survived as she married in later years in Ontario https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KSZ3-XVH
Jane's death is hard to find so far...at a guess in the 1860s given no further children show as born after 1861? I was trying to find William Snr in 1871 so that you could check Jean what his marital status showed as on his census entry, but struggling too with finding him.
Which line is yours, Jean?
Monica
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Jean, what are the details from William's Snr's death reg in 1884?
Monica
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Think this is William in 1881 census
William Bisset 75 born 1806 Stonehouse Kinkcardine Co ? Head
occupation shoe maker address 5,Gardeners Lane Aberdeen on his own so no Jane ....This family are very hard to find owing to all the transcription errors
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There are 2 burial records on www.deceasedonline.com for a Jane Bisset
Jane Bisset burial date 10/10/1864 at John Knox Cemetery Aberdeen
Jane Bisset burial date 17/4/1867 Nellfield Cemetery Aberdeen
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One match comes up on Scotlands People with just surname Bisset female birth year 1824-1829 in 1864 for a death in Aberdeen
No matches for the one in 1867 so maybe worth a try but can't be sure it is Jane ???
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Those look promising, Rosie :) Maybe Jane's death was indexed with just her married name? Also, some deaths in the 1860s have not had the death at age indexed (something that SP have been correcting over the years). Age shows on the actual registration for these death certs though.
They are a tricky crowd to find on the censuses though aren't they ::)
Monica
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They certainly are Monical we seem to pick all the hard ones ??? ???
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:) Thank you very much so Jane was married before i will check the name with Besset that may help
Kind regards Jean
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:) Back again William had also been married before to a Milne William died in St Nicholas in Aberdeen
sources (3)
William Bisset
Birth
24 Apr 1779
Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, , Scotland
Death
22 Feb 1863
Maryculter, Kincardineshire, , Scotland
Family Info
Father
Peter Bisset (1744-1854)
Mother
Isabella Milne (1751-1790)
Spouse
Jean Murray (1777-1849)
Married 1805
Children
Isobel (-)
William (1805-1884)
David (1808-1892)
Jane (1811-1894)
John (1812-1883)
Mary (1814-1924)
James (1816-1874)
James (1816-1926)
Francis (1821-1931)
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:) Hi I got the 1911 census but it was Boness Mid Lothian so i dont think its her
would this help any
Jane Farquharson
Birth abt 1829 in Strachan, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Death married
William Bisset
B:
19 Oct 1805
Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, , Scotland
D:
17 Apr 1884
5 Gardeners Lane, Aberdeen, Scotland
Jane Murray Bisset
Daughter
13 Aug 1855
Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Hints (5)
Joan Margaret F Bisset
Daughter
26 Dec 1857
Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Hints (4)
Alfred Henry Bisset
Son
25 Oct 1861
St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland
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:) I got the 1911 census but it was Boness Mid Lothian so i dont think its her
Why not?
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Jean what did it say on Williams death certificate ? was Jane still living ?
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This might be the daughter Joan Bisset born abt 1858 aged 23 Maryculter Kincardine ( servant)
Civil Parish St George Edinburgh
I see by the marriage Monica posted she was married under the name Margaret F Bisset just incase you don't know she died 1939 Canada www.canadianheadstones.com
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Her son John Emslie born 1850 was in Inverness 1891,1901 census he was a lieutenant Gr Mstr in the Cameron Highlanders he married Jeannie Grant first child born abt 1888. So maybe look for a marriage Inverness / Aberdeen to see if Jane is deceased ?
A tree has Jane's father down as Charles Farquharson and mother Margaret McLauchlan but I can't see any record of marriage?
There was another child for Jane and William Emslie Margaret Jane 18/5/1851 ?
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:) Hello the reason i thought it was not Jane on the 1911 census had Daughter Isabella living with her
I have not seen any daughter called Isabell in her family , I also saw that Charles Farquharson sent the people who owned the tree if it was correct as you know some people just copy other peoples trees no reply as yet ,sometimes they never get back to you I will have a look at John Emslie and Margaret Bisset
Kind regards Jean
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Was that the original of the 1911 census? Because if it was a transcription you need to take a look at the original. Mistakes are not unknown, both in the original and in transcriptions, but at least you can eliminate the transcription ones.
If this one in West Lothian is the right age and born in the right place, she could still be yours, even though it's a long way from Aberdeenshire. The mystery Isabella could be a daughter missed off the earlier census*, or a daughter-in-law, or a stepdaughter, or a granddaughter.
*I have a relative born just before his parents got married in 1844, and I have not found any record of his birth or baptism. In 1851 he was staying with his maternal uncle, and by 1861 he was an apprentice and living in lodgings. So he was never in a household with his parents in any census. Fortunately he married in Scotland shortly before emigrating to America, or I would not have known he existed at all.
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:) Thank you I got John Emslie marriage he was a widow he remarried to Jeanie Grant Watson 1886
i am really confused now it looks like on there Jane has died between 1884 and 1886 I tried to find her death using these dates still no luck
Ps can you tell me how to add people i am searching so ther people can see them
Kind regards Jean
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:) Hi Sorry i got the Census from Scotlands People this Lady has nearly sent me to the poor house lol
Kind regards Jean
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So how old was the mystery Isabella, and where was she born?
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Jean, just some questions that remain around:
What did William's Bisset's death cert say regarding his wife Jane? Did he show as married still in 1884 or a widower? Who was the informant to his death? What was his occupation at the time of his death?
William Snr. potentially we have living alone in both 1871 and 1881...then his death in 1884. Rosie posted this earlier for 1881:
William Bisset 75 born 1806 Stonehouse Kinkcardine Co ? Head
occupation shoe maker address 5,Gardeners Lane Aberdeen
There is a likely entry for 1871 here:
William Besset, 64, housekeeper, b. Stencholl, Kincardineshire and living at 34 Gallowgate Reids Ct, St Nicholas/Aberdeen.
These census entries, if correct, would let you confirm William's marital status for 1871 and 1881.
Given that we had a potential 1871 census entry for Alfred in 1871 staying at an Industrial School at Old Marchar, certainly a feeling of disruption in the family (maybe with Jane's death?).
As mentioned earlier, what line are you following? Is it from William's first or second marriage?
Monica :)
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Ps can you tell me how to add people i am searching so ther people can see them
Jean, one way of doing this.
Click on your username 'wee jean' on the left hand side of your posts. This will take you into your 'Personal Profile' page.
You will see two buttons: 'Profile info' and 'Modify Profile'. If you hover over 'Modify Profile', you will see some options below. You want to click on 'Forum Profile'.
Amongst other things you can do/change on this page, you will see a box towards the bottom called 'Surname Interests'. This is free text. You can add the surnames here. This means that everytime you make a post on any topic/board, your post will show this information.
Do not forget before you exit this page to click on the red button, bottom right hand side 'Change Profile' ::) ;)
That is it. You can make what changes you need to ongoing names and details in the same way.
Monica
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According to the LDS CD-ROM transcription of the 1881 census, William Bisset, 75, widower, shoemaker, born Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, was living alone in Aberdeen.
Therefore Jane must have died before 1881. Which would effectively eliminate the one in West Lothian in 1911.
That 1871 transcription looks very doubtful. When was a man ever recorded as 'housekeeper'? And there is a Stenscholl, but it's in Skye if I recall correctly.
Stonehaven is in the parish of Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, which tallies with the 1861 listing above. (Is that from the original or from a transcription?)
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I think that William's place of birth in 1871 is likely a mistranscription. However, Aberdeen has unusual terms, not used elsewhere, on recording of people. For example, when a son living with mother reports her death and rather than described as son is referred to as xxx ::) ???. Brain tired, and I can't remember - need to go and double check that one :P In any case, originals need to be checked here as the family has been tricky to find, never mind trying to figure out online (mis)transcriptions!
Monica
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Aberdeen has unusual terms, not used elsewhere, on recording of people. For example, when a son living with mother reports her death and rather than described as son is referred to as xxx ::) ???.
Inmate, or occupier, I think.
So, to summarise, we have Jane or Jean Farquharson, born 1823/4 in Strathdon or 1828/9 in "Strathan", Aberdeenshire. Married first to William Emslie, blackmsith, one son. He dies between 1849 and 1854, and in 1854 she marries William Bisset. She is alive in 1861, possibly dies before 1871, and definitely dies before 1881, but the death certificate cannot be found.
Has someone seen all the originals of the 1851, 1861 and 1871 census, to check the transcription of ages, birthplaces, children's names and William's marital status in 1871?
2 daughters named Jane Murray, 1855, and Joan Margaret F, 1857. Has someone seen the 1855 birth certificate of Jane Murray Bisset?
If not, then I suggest that those are the next steps. The most important is the original 1871 census to find out whether William was a widower by then.
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;D Thank you Forfarian for putting me out of my fuzzy memory misery ;)
Monica
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I have just came across a tree that has a death for Jane in 25 October 1861 but I can't find one on S P tried Emslie ,Farquharson and Bisset ??? ???
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:) Thank you very much you girls are amazing
William Bisset C112585
b. 19 Oct 1805, Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland
d. 17 Apr 1884, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
& Agnes Milne
b. 1811, Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland
William Bisset C112585
b. 19 Oct 1805, Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland
d. 17 Apr 1884, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
& Jane Farquharson
b. 1829, Strachan, Aberdeen, Scotland
m. 31 Aug 1854 On Williams death certificate says widower of Jane Farquharson his son is the wittness so this does mean she had passed away by 1884 this also sinks in with John Emslie marriage 1886 it was hard to read but it did look like his mum had passed away , Bisset is the main one the reason i am trying to get to Jane is i have a cousin who also has Farquharson so trying to see if Jane ties in Kind regards Jean Ps do you have a place where you can attach certificates
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Jane Farquharson b. 1829, Strachan, Aberdeen, Scotland
Where does this come from? Strachan is not in Aberdeenshire. It is in Kincardineshire, and so far no-one has quoted any even vaguely reliable source to suggest that Jane was born in Strachan.
Jane married William Emslie on 5 August 1848 and the marriage is recorded in both Chapel of Garioch and Logie Coldstone (IGI community indexed)
She was in the 1851 census (transcription) as aged 27 and born in Strathdon, Aberdeenshire
She married William Bisset on 31 August 1854 and the marriage is recorded in Maryculter, Kincardineshire (IGI, community contributed)
She had a daughter born 31 August 1855 in Maryculter, Kincardineshire (IGI community indexed)
She was in the 1861 census (transcription) as aged 32 and born in Strathan, Aberdeenshire
There is an unconfirmed report that she died on 25 October 1861 but there is no matching death certificate
A Jane Bisset was buried on 10 October 1864 at John Knox Cemetery Aberdeen but there is no matching death certificate
She was apparently not in the 1871 census (transcription)
William Bisset is described as a widower in the 1881 census (transcription)
Have you seen the originals of all these documents?
The 1855 birth certificate, in particular, will tell you Jane's age, where she was born, how long she had been in Maryculter and how many children she had had altogether.
Now, assuming that the age in the 1851 census is accurate, and she was actually aged 27, this means that she was born between 31 March 1823 and 30 March 1824. (For reasons I have explained elsewhere in these forums, birth years 'calculated' by subtracting the age on a census from the census year are more often wrong than right)
There is in the 1841 census (transcription) a household at Belnaboddach in Strathdon consisting of George Farquharson, 35; his wife Hellen, 25; two small children and ten servants including Jean Farquharson, 15. Now, adults' ages in the 1841 census were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest five years, so this Jean could have been any age from 15 to 19, which means she would have been born between 7 June 1821 and 6 June 1826.
She is almost certainly not the daughter of Hellen Farquharson, who is at most 14 years older than Jean. She could be George's daughter, but if so why would she be listed among the servants? Do you think she might be 'your' Jane?
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:) Thank you I have never know a person so hard to find i now have pages of deaths looking for her
I got the daughter Jane born 1855 it looks like her mum was 29 I also got Alfreds birth he was born 1861 in St Nicholas Aberdeen i was wondering if maybe she died in child birth or just after
Kind regards Jean
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I got the daughter Jane born 1855 it looks like her mum was 29
Assuming her age is accurate, that would mean she was born between 1 September 1825 and 31 August 1826. This does not overlap with the possible range of birth dates from the 1851 census, so you can be absolutely certain that at least one of the ages recorded is wrong.
Where does her daughter's birth certificate say she was born?
I also got Alfreds birth he was born 1861 in St Nicholas Aberdeen i was wondering if maybe she died in child birth or just after
I notice that Alfred was born on 25 October 1861. This is the exact date of death for Jane that Rosie found in a tree she came across. Could someone have mixed up Alfred's date of birth with his mother's date of death and put the wrong information into this tree Rosie found?
If Jane died between Alfred's birth and the registration of the birth, the birth certificate would say she was deceased. What does it say? And on what date was the birth registered?
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I'm not saying this is her but worth a credit..
Jen
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I'm not saying this is her but worth a credit.
You don't even need a credit. Narrowing down the search on the date and age, this lady died in 1877 aged 91.
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91 because I left the birth field empty? I thought if you left that blank it picked up everyone who died during the period selected regardless of age? Or has someone already checked this entry and discovered a 91 year old I missed that. Oh, no I get it you put in a date of birth and worked it out ;D. I'll go to the back of the class.
Jen
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91 because I left the birth field empty? I thought if you left that blank it picked up everyone who died during the period selected regardless of age?
Yes it does.
Or has someone already checked this entry and discovered a 91 year old
No, you didn't miss anything.
Oh, no I get it you put in a date of birth and worked it out
No. No point trying to use a DoB when (a) we don't know exactly when she was born and (b) we know that at least one of the ages quoted for her is wrong.
I just replicated your search, added an age range (0-100) and then narrowed down the age range progressively until I pinpointed it. The same with the date.
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I didn't have the patience to do the exact date of birth just the year and I totally forgot about using the birth fields to narrow down her age. No patience and bad memory maybe I should get a new hobby!
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I didn't have the patience to do the exact date of birth just the year and I totally forgot about using the birth fields to narrow down her age. No patience and bad memory maybe I should get a new hobby!
I put in age at death 1-100 and got 1 result.
Then 1-90 and got zero results, so I knew she was aged between 90 and 100.
So I did 91-100 and got 1 result.
So I did 92-100 and got no results, so I knew she had to be 91.
With the year of death, I knew the one we are looking for was alive in 1861 so I did 1861-1877 and got 1 result.
Then 1870-1877 and got 1 result
So I did 1870-1876 and got no results, so she had to have died in 1877.
QED, and without spending any credits.
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A question - any idea why William Bisset would be talking in little 'Skene' children for over 20 years?They have Skene child lodgers in 41 and in 61? That's Skene as in their name not for the parish of Skene.
Jen
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They have Skene child lodgers in 41 and in 61?
Well, if we had the originals of those censuses, rather than just dodgy transcriptions, we might know where the Skenes were born and the real name of 'Rock' Charles Skene who was aged 57 in 1861.
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I'd definitely want to see that 61 census - especially when you can see:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYFF-S57
and you know William's first wife was a Milne from Skene.
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Oh dear this just gets more confusing ??? ??? where are you Jane :-\ :-\
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Found the probate record for Jane Murray Bisset of 39,Erskine Street Aberdeen died 22 June 1914 at Kingseat Asylum Aberdeenshire confirmation of Alfred Henry Bisset shade maker sealed London 8th December ...So she never married maybe if we find her in some of the census forms thought we might have got lucky with the mother ....forgot the son was in Industrial School in 1871 ???
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A transcription, not the original. 1861, Chapel Street, Old Machar, Aberdeen:
William Bisset, head, 53, house proprietor, b. Fetteresso, Kinc.
Jane Bisset, wife, 32, b. Strathdon, Abdns.
William Bisset, son, 31, silk mercer, b. Maryculter, Kinc.
John Emslie, step-son, 11, scholar, b. Chapel of Garioch, Abdns.
Jane W Bisset, daughter, 5, b. Maryculter
Joan M T Bisset, daughter, 3, b. Maryculter
Jane Sellar, servt., 30, domestic servant, b. England
Rosamond Davidson, boarder, widow, 78, fund holder, b. Kirkwhittoch (sic), Dumbartons.
Charles Skene, boarder, widower, 57, minister of John Knox Church, b. Birse, Abdns.
Jane Skene, boarder, 8, b. Old Machar, Abdns.
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1841, Kirktown of Maryculter:
William Bisset, "30", shoemaker, b. Kinc.
Agnes Bisset, "25", b. Scotland
William Bisset, 1, b. Kinc.
William Strachan, 15, apprentice shoemaker, b. Kinc.
Agnes Show (sic), 7, female servant, b. Kinc.
Charles Skene, 10, b. Scotland
James Skene, 8, b. Scotland
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As to the Skenes:
I have come across a reference to the Rev. Charles Skene, schoolmaster at Skene in 1834.
The 1841 census for the school house, Skene, has Charles Skene, 38, teacher, Elizabeth Skene, 23, female servant, and one other female servant.
Jane Haldane Skene, only daughter of Rev. Charles Skene, died 29-6-1849.
The 1851 census shows Charles Skene, 46, widower, minister of John Knox Church, at 5 Canal Street, Aberdeen, with sons, Charles, 19, b. Skene, and James A., 17, b. Skene, and a domestic servant. The boys are both described as scholars.
It looks as if Charles Skene's wife died and he boarded the children out.
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Found the probate record for Jane Murray Bisset of 39,Erskine Street Aberdeen died 22 June 1914 at Kingseat Asylum Aberdeenshire confirmation of Alfred Henry Bisset shade maker sealed London 8th December
Now that strikes me as odd. There is no such concept as 'probate' in Scots Law. The corresponding process in Scotland is called confirmation. If Jane Murray Bisset died in Scotland, her will would have been confirmed in a Scottish Court. Your reference doesn't say that probate was granted, only that it was 'sealed' in England. 'Sealing' is a convenient way of making a Scottish confirmation valid in England, or an English probate valid in Scotland without having to go through the entire legal process twice. However as far as I know 'sealing' in England would only have been necessary if she owned property in England. There should be a corresponding will in the lists of Scottish wills on SP. If I were wee jean I would want to get a copy of it.
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That is a good explanation on the source of the Skene children, GR2.
Rosie, what is the source for the probate record for Jane Murray Bisset? Is it a/try or another database?
Monica
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The wills index on Scotlands People has the corresponding entry for Jane Murray Bisset but says she died intestate, the court column showing Aberdeen Sheriff Court Inventories and that the document is five pages long.
William
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Oh no is this another 'fallen' woman story. Did the Minister clipe on her? Two months in jail for wrongfully registering a birth - seems a bit OTT if you ask me. Wee Jean you need to look at the Aberdeen Press for September 1866...
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Oh Dear ::).
Aberdeen Journal 12-9-1866:
SHERIFF CRIMINAL COURT. - A first Diet Court for the disposal of criminal cases where a plea of Guilty is put in, was held on Monday - Sheriff Jameson on the bench ....................... Jane Farquharson or Bisset was charged with contravention of the Registration Act, by falsely representing to the Registrar of St. Nicholas parish, Aberdeen, that she was a widow, for the purpose of getting inserted in the Register the birth of a female child, of which she had been delivered about 5th July, 1866, and which was so entered accordingly. And this she did, well knowing that she was not a widow. She pleaded guilty, and sentence of two months imprisonment was imposed.
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On a happier note, from the Aberdeen Journal of 28-3-1866:
Included in a list of applicants for certificates for the sale of exciseable liquors for the Burgh of Aberdeen, under applications by new tenants or occupiers:
Jane Farquharson or Bisset, Eating House Keeper, 8 and 10 Upperkirkgate (her home address), applied for a certificate for 3 Barnett's Close, Guestrow, for the sale of porter and ale only, her landlord there being George Stewart, 59 Guestrow, proprietor.
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Wow, twists and turns this one ;D
GR2, from the dates you gave, this must be the 1866 birth in July that year https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYRW-P2Q
Monica
Added: Sadly, baby Louisa Shand Clark's death shows in 1867 in Aberdeen, from the index.
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Well, at least that proves that the death date of 25 October 1861 is wrong.
It would be interesting to see if there is a father's name on Louisa's marriage or death certificate.
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That is a good explanation on the source of the Skene children, GR2.
Rosie, what is the source for the probate record for Jane Murray Bisset? Is it a/try or another database?
Monica
Hi Monica the record is on Ancestry think this is Alfred H Bisset married age 37 born Aberdeen Scotland..occupation lamp shade maker
Civil Parish Poole St James Dorset....boarding with a Samuel G Jacob & wife
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You found Alfred in the censuses again, Rosie;) Wonder what he did in the interim years after 1871?
So all the three children of William Bisset and Jane Farquharson survived to adulthood: Jane Murray Bisset, Joan Margaret Farquharson Bisset and Alfred Henry Bisset.
Forfarian, there will be no marriage for Louisa S C Farquharson unfortunately. Looks like she died as a baby in 1867.
Monica
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Yes Monica I wonder where he is in 1881,1891 came across a few Jane M Farquharson's in the census forms in England but can't be sure if this is the same Jane ??? ???
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there will be no marriage for Louisa S C Farquharson
Spotted that and corrected my post soon after posting it - you were evidently too quick for me :)
Father's name could still be on death certificate.
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Must stop obsessing about this family ;D
Think I have now found some further census entries for at least Jane b. 1855.
1871 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRFB-P1L
1901 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9T5-PVS
Monica
Added: Father's name may be on little Louisa's death reg., although with Farquharson for name, hard to say without looking isn't it...
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I think this is also Joan Margaret Bisset's 1901 Canadian Census entry, following her marriage in 1896 (from earlier, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KSZ3-XVH). Birth entries show mother as Joan/Margaret Bisset. Haven't been able to find a shipping manifest for her to confirm migration year.
1901 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHLX-ZVG ...ok for anyone to loose a few years along the way ;)
No further children showing in 1911. Joan's age still light and now showing as born in England ::)....but we know better with her marriage reg confirming her details together with children's birth regs.
Monica
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Must stop obsessing about this family ;D
Think I have now found some further census entries for at least Jane b. 1855.
1871 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRFB-P1L
1901 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9T5-PVS
Monica
These were the ones I seen :) think we are all getting a bit obsessed Monica :o
Added: Father's name may be on little Louisa's death reg., although with Farquharson for name, hard to say without looking isn't it...
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Question for GR2 please. The date you posted for the death of the Minister's daughter Jane was that a typo? If not, I wonder, who is the little girl showing on the 61 census. (I'm obsessing about minster's at the moment ;D- a long tale).
Old William not without 'blame' here - 1864 Jane was found guilty of running a shabeen at upperkirkgate and was threatened with a fine or jail - she paid the £7 fine. It was the second offence at this house, the first was against her husband William Bisset. Potential then for William to have been a 'housekeeper' in 71.
Jen
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Question for GR2 please. The date you posted for the death of the Minister's daughter Jane was that a typo? If not, I wonder, who is the little girl showing on the 61 census. ;D- a long tale).
If Jane Haldane Skene died in 1849, she could well have been the only daughter at the time of her death. The Jane in the 1861 census was only 8, so born 1852/3, after her elder sister's death (and named after her)
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Aberdeen Journal, 4-7-1849:
At 15, Skene Row, on 29th ult., in the prime of youth, after
a severe and protracted illness, which she bore with christian
patience and resignation, Jane Haldane Skene, only daughter
of the Rev. Charles Skene, minister of John Knox's Church,
Aberdeen. - Friends at a distance will please accept this in-
timation.
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Aberdeen Journal, 16-11-1864:
SHEBEEN CASE. - On Saturday, Jane Farquharson or
Bisset, wife of Wm. Bisset, eating house keeper, Upper-
kirkgate, was brought before Baillie Watson, charged with
trafficking in spirits without possessing a licence certificate.
She pled not guilty, but the Magistrate found the charge
proven, and inflicted the penalty prescribed, a fine of £7,
with 16s 6d of expenses, or, failing payment, six weeks' im-
prisonment. the fine, we understand, has been paid. This
is the second offence against this house, the husband having
been committed previously.
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Rev. Charles Skene died in January 1878. The Aberdeen Journal says he was schoolmaster at Skene for 15 years and became minister of John Knox's Church at the Disruption of 1843. He was "survived by only one of a family of three sons, viz., Mr James A. Skene, who is a retired naval surgeon".
Also:
"Bisset, William, Maryculter, shoemaker"
appears in a list of shareholders of the North of Scotland Bank published in the Aberdeen Journal on 26-2-1851. He appears under the same description in 1859, so they obviously did not keep their lists of addresses and designations up to date.