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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: Lensmeister on Sunday 27 July 14 17:25 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I am researching some former players of Whitby Town FC and I am looking for dates of birth or any other information on a number of players. I have divided them up in to areas of birth in case anyone can help.
Whitby:
Matthew Harland born December quarter 1907. Date of death unknown. {Thank you Rosie}
James Paul Harland born September quarter 1900. Married Jane Harland December 1924. Died June quarter 1942 aged 42.
Christopher Shears born December quarter 1903. Christopher was also known as Kit. He was deaf and dumb according to various sources.
James Dix born June quarter 1901.
Middlebrough
Thomas Lampard born March quarter 1904 (Think he was born in 1903 really).
Thomas Hughes born March quarter 1930 father Felix Hughes and mother Olywn Williams. (Infor on Felix as well is required).
Guisborough
Joseph Parker Allinson born March quarter 1908, married in 1933 to Emily Wood.
Percy Ellis Curnow born December quarter 1899.
Alexander C Brownbridge born December 1934 (mothers maiden name = Smith). I am hoping that maybe this is Alec Brownbridge as I have not found any other Brownbridge in this era.
William Whittington Brownbridge born September quarter 1907.
All help gratefully received. In fact any ex players I would be happy to hear from or about.
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Matthew Harland
Birth 25 November 1907
Death Registration September qtr 1981
Age 73
Reg dist Whitby
2 /2441
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Hi Lensmeister
Some of the people you mention are probably still living, rootschat does not allow us to post details of living people. I would suggest that you remove the details for these people.
Rosie
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Rosie thank you for Matthew's info. Where did you get it?
I have removed the ones I suspect are living.
I am at a loss of how to get info on them tbh.
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Percy Ellis Curnow
Birth 5 November 1899
Death Registration November qtr 1984
Age at Death 85
Reg Central Cleveland
3 / 2361
Ancestry has WW1 records for him.
Your local library may have free access to Ancestry which may help finding BMD's.
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William Whittington Brownbridge
Birth 9 August 1907
Death Registration March qtr 1972
Age at Death 64
Darlington reg dist 1a 664
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It looks like James Paul Harland's death was 1942 and not 1943?
Christopher Shears seems to be Christopher Breckon Shears - can't find a death
Joseph Parker Allinson born 17 December 1907 and died February 1984 at Lincoln (7/1793)
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Amazing Rosie Thank you :)
I have used freebmd but many of these haven't shown up. Matthew Harland for one.
thanks rutht22000 Great help here :)
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James Edward Thompson born in Middlesbrough in 1904 Middlesbro' 9d 654
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FreeBMD is a volunteer run project, and is not 100% complete!
I used Ancestry for the details on your other thread - FindMyPast would work as well, and probably GenesReunited too!
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You're a star KGarrard :)
Some of these players I have been looking for, for ages
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Births June qtr 1901
DIX James Spink Whitby
DIX James William Monmouth
I am assuming it is the Whitby one :-\
James S Dix
Death Registration March qtr 1960
Age 58
Whitby reg dist
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James Edward Thompson born in Middlesbrough in 1904 Middlesbro' 9d 654
James Edward Thompson born 19 February 1904, died December 1977, aged 73 at Cleveland (3/2320)
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Rosie99 and Ruth you two are amazing :)
On the subject of James Edward Thompson his nickname was Bimmer ... and by some cosmic coincidence his daughter has got in touch today :)
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Thomas Lampard seems to be Thomas Henry Lampard. Death in December 1966 doesn't give a full date of birth, save that its about 1904. He was 62 at died at Durham Eastern (1a 409)
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Thanks again for coming up trumps :)
I have found a folder of old notes with a load of old names in it ... I seem to find more questions than answers somedays.
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I think we are on a roll ;D so any more just post them and we can see what we can come up with!
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LOL you may regret that ;)
Thomas Hughes
b. Mar 1930 Middlesbrough 9d 797 Mother Williams Father Felix Hughes.
Peter McKeown.
b. Dec 1907 Middlesbrough 9d 575
d. dec 1955 Cleveland 1b 615 47 Years old.
Wilf Hellings.
b. Dec 1903 Guisborough 9b 479.
d. Jun 1961 Middlesbrough 1b 681 aged 56.
Fred Boak
b. Dec 1907 Pickering 9d 422.
Leslie Gray
b. Jun 1912 Guisborough Mothers maiden name Row (?)
Ken Rusk
b. Dec 1934 Darlington 10a 23 Mothers maiden name Wise
d. post 1983 (I think).
There are a few I have struggled with.
Harry McBurney.
Ralphy Palmer.
Denny Mallaby (I think it may be William H Mallaby) about 1905.
Thomas Templeman
b. Dec 1902 Guisborough 9d 505
d. unknown
Alfred Sams
b. Mar 1912 Lanchester 10a 765.
Jimmy Mulvanney.
Jimmy died of Motor Neurone Disease Association in 1982 (date needed)
I think he was born in 1941.
Peter McHale
Jun 1938 Middlesbro' 9d 764 Mother maiden name Baker.
I know Peter has died but cannot locate a date or place.
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;D
Frederick Arthur Boak, born 18 September 1907 died May 1991, aged 83, at Scarborough (2/2333)
Thomas Templeman, born 30 November 1902, died March 1978, aged 75 at East Cleveland (3/3215)
James Mulvanney, born 13 May 1941, died September 1972, aged 41 at Sunderland (2/1478)
Peter McHale, born 28 April 1938, died May 1996, aged 58 at Middlesbrough (C1A/3481C/97)
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;D
Frederick Arthur Boak, born 18 September 1907 died May 1991, aged 83, at Scarborough (2/2333)
Thomas Templeman, born 30 November 1902, died March 1978, aged 75 at East Cleveland (3/3215)
James Mulvanney, born 13 May 1941, died September 1972, aged 41 at Sunderland (2/1478)
Peter McHale, born 28 April 1938, died May 1996, aged 58 at Middlesbrough (C1A/3481C/97)
Don't suspose you have a date for Jimmy M at all?
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;D
Frederick Arthur Boak, born 18 September 1907 died May 1991, aged 83, at Scarborough (2/2333)
Thomas Templeman, born 30 November 1902, died March 1978, aged 75 at East Cleveland (3/3215)
James Mulvanney, born 13 May 1941, died September 1972, aged 41 at Sunderland (2/1478)
Peter McHale, born 28 April 1938, died May 1996, aged 58 at Middlesbrough (C1A/3481C/97)
Don't suspose you have a date for Jimmy M at all?
On first glance, no there is nothing on the death registrations - will see if he left a will though as that will give us it.
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Leslie Gray, born 19 June 1912, died March 1976 at East Cleveland (3/2976)
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Thomas Hughes *might* be Thomas Lewis Hughes born 6 March 1930, died May 1989 in Cleveland (3/2498)
There are that many Thomas Hughes' born 1930 it might be difficult to pin him down but he is the only one I can find the north east area
Can't add anything to what you have for Peter McKeown for the minute, nor Wilfred Harry Hellings or Kenneth Rusk.
There's a marriage in 1934 for Harry McBurney in Guisborough in 1934 to a Mallin but nothing more. That could give a rough idea of age.
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Extreme challenge now.
William "Bill" Jeffs was a Whitby legendary player and Manager.
He died post 2007 (date unknown) and was born according to rumours in 1931 but I cannot find him in freebmd.
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and a Ralph Wheatley Palmer, born 14 November 1900 in Manchester, but died January 1989 at Cleveland. Is he of the right era? There are a few Ralph Palmer's in and around that time
taking up the extreme challenge now.... ;D
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Thomas Hughes *might* be Thomas Lewis Hughes born 6 March 1930, died May 1989 in Cleveland (3/2498)
It does appear to be Thomas Lewis Hughes. On freebmd it shows his mother as Williams and Felix Hughes married Olwyn Williams in 1929 :)
George T Welford (nicknamed Notchy)
began playing for WTFC in 1931 (going on the basis that he was minimum of 17 that puts a DOB at about pre 1913. He was born in Whitby.
D. unknown but I think (will have to trawl though about 3 documents) he died after 1960.
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and a Ralph Wheatley Palmer, born 14 November 1900 in Manchester, but died January 1989 at Cleveland. Is he of the right era? There are a few Ralph Palmer's in and around that time
taking up the extreme challenge now.... ;D
I suspect that Manchester would have been a fair way out of way for a player in that era, most of the players before WWII were local to the North East.
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William Jeffs was 83 in 2009. There is a vague newspaper reference in the Northern Echo to his death sometime before 19 December 2009. So yes he was 1931 but .....nothing on freebmd...except 1925 in Stockton, Durham.
Was he a local man?
funeral 20th September 2009 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/4640248.Farewell_to_gentleman_Bill/
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He was in the Bishop Auckland, Stockton possibly even Crook
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I am not joking here but this is serious.
Births Sep 1902
Chaplin Charles Robert Auckland 10a 257
Charles was our goal keeper in the 1930s. And yes the captain had to stop a referee from sending him off when Charles gave his name.
Interested in his info DOB & DOD if possible.
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Can see why ;D
Born 22 August 1902, died June 1979 at Durham Eastern
not one of them seems to be leaving a Will so its hard to track down actual dates of death
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Could this be Fred Boak :-\
Frederick Arthur Boak
Birth 18 September 1907 (Registered Pickering district)
Death Registration May 1991
Age 83
Reg dist Scarborough 2/2333
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I am sure this is right as Fred signed from Pickering Town.
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Did anyone find the DOB for Christopher Shears born December quarter 1903.
Looks like his middle name was Breckon.
Now an interesting aside there is a 'Kit' Breckon who played for the club about the same time.
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KRH Jun qtr 1933 Auckland 10a 330 Mothers maiden name Robson.
Hello
think he is still alive so might be best to remove his details. Newspaper article from July 2014 mentioning him in the Northern Echo and interviewing him
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Did anyone find the DOB for Christopher Shears born December quarter 1903.
Looks like his middle name was Breckon.
Now an interesting aside there is a 'Kit' Breckon who played for the club about the same time.
There are 2 Christopher Shears - one October 1903 birth registered which is Christopher Breckon Shears but I can't find that CS dying but there is a death of a Christopher Shears in June 1979 in Cleveland with a corresponding birth day of 13 October 1900.
There are definitely 2 separate birth registrations in 1900 and 1903 for presumably different Christopher's but I can't find Christopher B dying in the UK. Will have to see if he possibly went abroad.
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I tried looking for a Kit Shears.
He was known as Kit throughout his career at Whitby and went to play for Scarborough Penguins in the late 1920s early 30s.
Another:
Richard Chambers Jun 1927 in Whitby 9d 764 Mother Walker. Also on the freebmd they give a K as a middle initial but not sure what the K is for.
d. Cannot find his death as yet, but I know he was playing in a local league in the 50s.
Dickie Chambers as he was known may very well had a naval career as well.
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I tried looking for a Kit Shears.
He was known as Kit throughout his career at Whitby and went to play for Scarborough Penguins in the late 1920s early 30s.
Another:
Richard Chambers Jun 1927 in Whitby 9d 764 Mother Walker. Also on the freebmd they give a K as a middle initial but not sure what the K is for.
d. Cannot find his death as yet, but I know he was playing in a local league in the 50s.
Dickie Chambers as he was known may very well had a naval career as well.
Richard King Chambers born 10 April 1927, died June 1985 at Whitby (2/2644)
Christopher/Kit is eluding the passenger lists as well.....
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I am convinced that Kit/chris Shears never used Breckon in his name. Nowhere in the reports or notes is Breckon mentioned except for the Kit Breckon who I believe to be another person.
Richard KING Chambers interesting.
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I am convinced that Kit/chris Shears never used Breckon in his name. Nowhere in the reports or notes is Breckon mentioned except for the Kit Breckon who I believe to be another person.
Richard KING Chambers interesting.
could he then be the CS that was born in 1900 (how definite are you he was born in 1903?), particularly when the 1900 CS dies he is in the right bit of the country?
1900 CS doesn't have anything in the 'infirmity' column of the 1911 census though and if he was deaf and dumb it should have been reported in there
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I found a Christopher Shears in Weatherby Institute on the 1911 census on it it said born 1904
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I found a Christopher Shears in Weatherby Institute on the 1911 census on it it said born 1904
that looks like it could be him and the infirmity column does have him down as deaf so with the Whitby birth place that definitely is the 1903 born one, being Christopher Breckon Shears. The death though is another issue ;D
think what was throwing me is that the birthplace is transcribed wrong as Bradford on Ancestry and correct as Whitby on findmypast....
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So we've confirmed that it's th Oct 1903 Christopher Breckon Shears. :)
What was the date?
I think he may have been in Scarborough or Hartlepool areas later in life.
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birth registration is just flagging as October - if we can find the death then it may have the birth date on it.
there's a couple of marriages Hartlepool way that could be him but they wont particularly help unfortunately as they are
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I will have a scan through later. Thanks
John Chamberlain
Mar 1934 Guisborough 9d 720 Mothers maiden name Eddon.
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I am looking for a John Butler (Snr). Now as it is a common name I have found it very difficult to find him.
This is what I know he had brothers
H. Butler
George Butler
During the mid 30s he also played for North Skelton Rovers.
He then went to War (WWII).
John (Snr) then takes over as manager and his son John (Jnr) began to play for the slub.
R.W. Butler (brother of John Snr.) also began playing.
I suspect the latest John (Snr) was born would have been Dec 1908 and the earliest 1900.
any ideas on how to locate bother John Snr and John Jnr ? ?
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Hi all,
Raising this thread from the depths of the North Sea.
Wondered if anyone had any info on the Butlers?
This lot are rather elusive it appears.
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Have you tried to identify R W Butler from free bmd?
Added:
There are not many, and include Ronald W Butler (Walton) born 1914 in Middlesboro.
As I have not been following this thread, I do not know whether that would be a reasonable likely birth.
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Also Robert William Butler, 1899, Middlesborough, but I was assuming R W would be younger than John (snr)
There are a very few others around Yorkshire and surrounding counties.
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Hello All
Just wondering if you were still searching for these former players as Thomas Hughes was my uncle and Felix Hughes was my Grandfather
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Hello All
Just wondering if you were still searching for these former players as Thomas Hughes was my uncle and Felix Hughes was my Grandfather
Hi,
Yes I am still researching the club and it's players. Any information would be brilliant.
wtfc @ Lensmeister.com is best to get me on. (Remove the spaces.)
Thanks in advance
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Richard King Chambers was my maternal uncle and was born in Whitby on 10 April 1927 to Elizabeth Walker from Stockton on Tees who had married Richard King Chambers who was born in Whitby in 1902. Richard King Chambers Jr was a very successful footballer and enjoyed playing for the Royal Navy when he was called up to do his National Service. He was scouted by many top football teams including Man U, Middlesbrough and Newcastle but unfortunately his father put his foot down and said not to sign to any club as, in the 1940s and 1950s, if you had a serious injury, your footballing career was over. Dickie, as we called him, had a secure job working in Whitby Post Office at that time so, begrudgingly, he followed his father's advice and never signed professionally. A great shame as he was an extremely gifted player who always hankered after his former playing day. He died in 1985 in Whitby, several years after suffering a crippling stroke.
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Thanks :)
Lovely insight to the player and the family.