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I am looking for the marriage of Elizabeth [Eliza] Ennis and Alonzo Benjamin Yates and especially for any newspaper confirmation of an interesting anecdote related in the 'History of Columbia County, Wisconsin' which is at least sort of plausible except for the date.
http://www.scls.lib.wi.us/por/columbia/images/00000019.pdf
"Another early marriage [in the town of Wyocena] was that of Benjamin Yates and Eliza Ennis in 1848. Miss Ennis, some time previous, had run away from home, and was working for Willis W. Haskin. One day, on looking out the window, she discovered her father coming toward the house with the evident intention of taking her home. Seizing some of her things, she started out of the back door, where she encountered Mr. Yates, and told him the trouble she was in. Mr. Yates proposed they should be married at once, the proposition was accepted, and together the couple started for a minister, and in less than thirty minutes the two were made one."
Eliza couldn't have eloped in 1848 as a nine year-old and, indeed, she was recorded in the 1850 census with her family, aged 11. Her marriage to A.B. Yates actually occurred in about 1856/7 when she was ~18 years old; their first child was born in 1857.
W. W. Haskin did live in Wyocena in 1850 and 1860. He appears to have run a boarding house there. It is conceivable that Eliza might have sought employment in such an establishment and Wyocena was only 15 miles south of the Ennis farm in Marquette County. It is also plausible that A.B. Yates was living in a boarding house since he was not a local but had come to Wisconsin from New York. But, if there is any truth to the anecdote, it must have occurred several years after 1848.
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Sadly the age of consent in 1880 Wisconsin was 10 years old...So it may have been lower, or indeed nonexistent 30 years prior...However this is a recycled history, likely by word of mouth, as it doesn't mention where this was recorded.
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It may be recycled history, as you say, but the principals [Eliza Ennis, her husband, Alonzo Yates, and her father, John Ennis] were all alive and well in 1880 when the 'History of Columbia County' was published. Not only that, they all lived just few miles north in Marquette County and had been there for more than 30 years. Portage, the county seat of Columbia County, was the nearest 'big' town where they often did their shopping. They were well known in Portage, and the comings and goings of the large Ennis and Yates families were frequently reported in the Portage newspaper.
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It is interesting nonetheless, is it not, as it may well be the true story...perhaps they even told it themselves, and the writer got the dates wrong...
I wonder if Wyocena court records might still be available? http://www.marqcohistorical.org/
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I've not yet looked for a marriage (I'm not very lucky finding such things), but perhaps if you've not already thought of the following...?
[I cannot open your link; I'm sure it has something to with my computer]
* Are there other articles in the link that you could check to see if they are accurate? If there are other articles and they are accurate, perhaps "your" article is somewhat accurate as well (minus the date of the event). If there are other "stories", perhaps your tale was made up for some unknown reason.
* Is it possible to find an old photograph of the building in which Mr. Haskin lived, to see if could have been possible for Eliza to have seen her father walking toward the building? If the building was in an isolated spot - where she could see for some distance, she could have had time to round up some items. If the building was on a busy/crowded street, would she have had time to spot him, gather some things and then head toward the back door? :-\ (Obviously, the photograph would have been taken years after she could have lived there; perhaps there might be a drawing of the building and surrounding land?)
* After a quick search, I've not found Alonzo in 1850. Have you found this census yet and if so, was he living in Wisconsin at the time?
* Perhaps the story came about to explain a possible quick marriage (c1856/57)? Or, perhaps it was embellished to create a memorable event? Or, perhaps it was true, just with an incorrect date affixed to the tale.
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I suspect that there is some grain of truth to the story and that the source was W.W. Haskin or some other member of his household who came up with it when the compilers of the county 'history' went around asking for significant or amusing incidents in the early days of the county. Haskin was still around in 1880. It isn't likely that Eliza or Alonzo would have gotten the date of their marriage wrong and they didn't live in Columbia County in 1880 so they probably wouldn't have been interviewed anyway.
Where Alonzo was in 1850 is a mystery but Eliza was at home with her family in Buffalo, Marquette County, aged 11 and not "married within the year." It is possible that they did skip town to get away from Eliza's father when they later married. In 1860, they were in Iowa with two kids. Alonzo was recorded as a 'physician' but in later years he was always called a farmer. The third child was born in Minnesota in 1862 but they were back in Wisconsin in time for Alonzo to sign up as a seargent with the 43rd Wisconsin Infantry Regiment in 1864. They then stayed in Wisconsin for the rest of their lives.
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Note: I was just getting ready to post the following when I received notification of a posting on this thread. I very quickly read what you posted - I'll post this now, and will then reread your comments. (I hope that makes sense.) ::)
I was able to open a different link and can read one page of the book. There appears to be quite a number of facts that were included in the book!
Several years ago, I found a book about the Wakefields. In it was a section about my ancestors. If I am remembering correctly, within the section were facts that only my direct ancestors should have known (and given to the author). While the majority of the information was correctly compiled, there were two or three absolutely incorrect statements and a couple of other minor incorrect details. So, while this book was put together to record various Wakefields, it did contain errors.
Unfortunately, we don't have many family stories that were handed down, but with the few that were, sense of time has proven to be the most incorrect. The majority of our tales were true, they just didn't happen in the correct time frames. My most amusing tale: we were told that an ancestor left France, settled in England just long enough to change the surname then immediately settled in Canada. After researching this line, I discovered they were in England at least 120 years, and possibly as much as 200 years.
I most likely won't be able to find anything helpful for you, but it certainly is worth a try as I think the story is at least partially true.
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I suspect that there is some grain of truth to the story and that the source was W.W. Haskin or some other member of his household who came up with it when the compilers of the county 'history' went around asking for significant or amusing incidents in the early days of the county. Haskin was still around in 1880. It isn't likely that Eliza or Alonzo would have gotten the date of their marriage wrong and they didn't live in Columbia County in 1880 so they probably wouldn't have been interviewed anyway.
Again, I can only read one page of the book. If you are able to read the entire book, does it state at the beginning from where the facts were obtained? Again referencing the Wakefield book, I believe it was mentioned in the beginning of the book that Wakefield families were asked to send information to the "compiler" about their families. I believe the families were spread throughout America and Canada. There is always the chance that authors of the Columbia County book consulted people who no longer lived in the county. :-\ Maybe?
I will continue to look for Alonzo in 1850.
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Me again. I was just rereading the page and:
"...marriage...Eliza Ennis, in 1848. Miss Ennis, some time previous, had run away from home..."
Eliza would have been quite young to have run away "some time previous" to 1848. Perhaps a first attempt at running away was in 1848? Maybe no one knew when the event occurred and just came up with 1848? I think the story may be true; we just need more proof.
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Could this be your Alonzo in 1863?
Civil War Draft Reg
Residence: Portage, Columbia, Wisconsin. Alonzo B Yates, age 1st July 1863: 24, ShoeMaker, born New York. No former military service.
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Yup, that's him [his age is way off, though]. I'd forgotten that he'd called himself a shoemaker at that time. I think he was a man of many talents. I've never believed the 'physician' business partly because, when my grandfather wrote about the doctors who practiced in Marquette County in the late 1800s, he never mentioned that his own uncle Alonzo was one.
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I don't know about the physician part of it, but I suppose one had to learn how to do many different things "back then". ;)
You most likely have seen this but at least one of Eliza's siblings apparently was not living at home at one point:
http://www.wiroots.org/wimarquette/ennisdiary.html
Eliza's brother, Hugh, "when he was a boy, lived with a Tiffany family for four years, I believe about 1856 to 1860." Perhaps two or more of the children lived away from home?
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I see from another post that at one time you didn't know anything about Alonzo's past. If that is still true this might be helpful: according to a private tree on one of the pay sites, Alonzo was born in Cayuga County (New York?). I don't know how they arrived at this conclusion.
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Sure, Hugh was my g-grandfather and the document was written by my grandfather. I've seen that reference to Cayuga County but I haven't been able to find him there.
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It certainly does simply seem that the article was simply a decade out.... She may have not liked being the caregiver to the rest of the children, as was expected of elder gals, or perhaps she did not get along with her father for various reasons.
I just found that there is also a search for Alonzo posted here....
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=647539.0
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Yes, it occurred to me that Eliza might have grown tired of doing the laundry for eight brothers. There were only two girls in the family plus the mother so the cooking, washing and sewing work must have been just about endless for them.
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and thus the saying, out of the frying pan...and into the fire!!!!
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No kidding. Eliza and Alonzo had fifteen children of which I have found 14; I suppose one must have died in infancy. But there were a lot of girls.
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Were first names handed down in your Ennis family? If so, were any of Eliza's children's names not common in the Ennis family? Perhaps they could have been handed down from Alonzo's family (thus providing a clue for his family members)?
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Their names were: Jeremiah, Emma, Mary, Ellen Rebecca, Anna, John, George, Hugh Hubert, William, Sarah, Gertrude, Rufus Alonzo, Frank Charles, and Elizabeth Edith.
I don't have enough previous generations to know which were traditional. Maybe Jeremiah, Hubert and Rufus stand out as a bit unusual. Certainly Mary, John, George, Hugh, William and Elizabeth had been used before. But it has always seemed to me that when my ancestors [not just the Ennises] got 'Americanized,' they started getting oddly innovative with names and gave up many of the old standbys.
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Me again. I was just rereading the page and:
"...marriage...Eliza Ennis, in 1848. Miss Ennis, some time previous, had run away from home..."
Eliza would have been quite young to have run away "some time previous" to 1848. Perhaps a first attempt at running away was in 1848? Maybe no one knew when the event occurred and just came up with 1848? I think the story may be true; we just need more proof.
The Ennises only arrived in Wisconsin from Amherst Island, Ontario in 1848. They had been in Canada for about eight or nine years. John's naturalization document says they arrived in the fall of 1848. They had apparently traveled up the Great Lakes by boat and then up the Fox River to Buffalo Twsp. They were among the first wave of people who came when that section of Wisconsin [called the 'Indian Lands'] was opened up to settlers. So it is very unlikely that Eliza ran away in 1848. It wasn't exactly a trackless wilderness but it was sparsely populated log cabin country without well established roads and she was only nine years old and would have had no idea where Wyocena was.
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I found your post while googling information on our house, owned by Willis W. Haskin. The house was built in 1848 and was supposedly a stagecoach stop and boarding house. We, too, have read the story about Eliza and Alonzo.
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Wow, that's pretty cool. What does the house look like now? Has it been extensively modernized, or does it still retain much of its original character? What's the kitchen like where Eliza toiled over the dirty dishes?
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It remained in the Haskin family for 100 years. The barn burned in 1947. The Hill family bought it around 1960 and ruined it by making it into a duplex :(. So it has been modernized (if you call 60's modern). Another owner restored it to a single family in 2000 and we bought it in 2016. We put in wood floors downstairs, removed carpet and sanded upstairs, etc. Are we able to attach photos on this website? I have a very grainy scanned photo of the house in about 1880-1890.
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Yes, you can attach a photo. I'd love to see what the place looked like even though it's only very remotely connected in any way to me. Eliza was my gg-aunt. I have no pictures of her or of Alonzo; no pictures of her outraged father, John Ennis, either. The Ennis farm was about 15 miles north of Wyocena, on the west side of Ennis Lake, in what is now part of the John Muir County Park. When they returned to Wisconsin, Eliza and Alonzo had a farm just a bit further north in Packwaukee Twsp. They had 15 children, some of whom settled down in Columbia County.
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Wowza, that is some great information. We are currently scanning any old photos we can get our hands on to add to Recollection Wisconsin so the pics I have will be added! I will let you know if I stumble across any further information. Unfortunately our local historical society is poorly organized and not digitized. I tried to attach but the site said the file was too large to attach - uuuugh.
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You have to reduce the size of the image to post it here. Make it about 600 pixels wide and less than 500 kb.
You can see where Eliza came from here: https://muirboyhoodhome.stqry.app/story/189603
There's a video about a third of the way down the page.
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I will try to figure that out. We are fairly close to John Muir, have hiked there several times!
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Hello,
I found on following website: http://www.wigenweb.org/columbia/marriages.html
That in 1848 Eliza Ennis and Benjamin Yates were married in Wyocena which is about 3 miles from Pardeeville. I think I was able to send a crusty photo of the house in the late 1800's. I would not have looked like that in 1848, much more primitive.
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1848. The thing is, though, that is clearly just based on the story recounted in the 'History of Columbia County.' As I noted above, the Ennises didn't even get to Wisconsin until late 1848, at which time Eliza was only nine years old. Eliza was recorded with her family in Buffalo Twsp., Marquette County, on the 1850 census - she was eleven years old and unmarried. Furthermore, there is no sign of Alonzo in Wisconsin in 1850 and other sources say he came out from NY in 1854. Since Eliza and Alonzo had their first child in about 1857, I think they probably got married in 1856/7. The marriage may well have occurred in Wyocena, but several years after 1848. The Ennises had later connections to Wyocena and other locations in Columbia. For example, Eliza's youngest brother, David, was a schoolteacher in Wyocena for a short while in the 1870s.
Thanks for that photo. It looks quite elegant though, as you say, it would have been a bit more primitive in the early days.