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Title: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Saturday 02 August 14 15:17 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information on the Bolton's and Bowman's (sometimes listed as Booman) from Kilmood.

I have so far discovered that James Bolton born probably in the 1830's in the Kilmood area married Mary Ann Bowman(born 1849, Kilmood, Down) in 1872.  I know they had children one of whom William married a Mary Ann Rainey (born about 1875). I'd really love to know anything about the parents and siblings of James Bolton or either of the Mary Ann's. If anyone knows anything or has any suggestions I'd really appreciate any information they can supply.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 02 August 14 15:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
   James Bolton and Mary Ann Bowman married in Newtownards Civil Registrars Office on 15 Jul 1872. The fathers' names were James Bolton and James Bowman.

Regards
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Saturday 02 August 14 16:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply :) If anyone does know more about these families or Mary Rainey I'd love to know more as I've really drawn a blank.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: fadge36 on Friday 08 August 14 19:25 BST (UK)
There is a birth on GRONI website of a Mary Rainey on 26 May 1873. Mothers maiden name Smyth.
registered in Newtownards. Could this be the right one?
Fadge
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: fadge36 on Friday 08 August 14 19:37 BST (UK)
GRONI also gives the marriage to William Bolton, registered in Castlereagh district on 11 May 1894.
Downloads of the Certificates cost £2 each on the  website.
Fadge
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Saturday 09 August 14 14:08 BST (UK)
GRONI also gives the marriage to William Bolton, registered in Castlereagh district on 11 May 1894.
Downloads of the Certificates cost £2 each on the  website.
Fadge

Thanks for your replies about William Bolton and Mary Rainey. i do think both of these records you have found could be the right people.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 09 August 14 20:36 BST (UK)
Hi,
    Mary Rainey was born on 26 May 1873. The father was James Rainey and the mother was Margaret Smyth. I think that they married on 2 Apr 1862 in St. Marys Church of Ireland, Newtownards. However the husband's name has been transcribed as RAMEY.

Regards
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Sunday 10 August 14 12:09 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information :)
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 00:16 BST (UK)
Mary Anne Rainey and William James Bolton married in Newtownards in 1873 were my grandmother and grandfather and I lived in their house in Belfast during the Second World War.  They went on to have nine children, eight of whom survived. They had twentyone grandchildren.  Grandfather died about 1955 and grandmother about 1965.

Jane.k was seeking information in 2014 but I just came across the rootschat yesterday.  I could give more information if I knew who I was talking to or what country they were in. Grandmother had a sister who went to Australia and married someone called Viney.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 05:16 BST (UK)
     Sorry.  Date of marriage wrong. James Bolton and Mary Ann bowman married in Newtownards in 1872.  My grandfather William James Bolton was born in 1873.  He married Mary Anne Rainey in 1894 Belfast vol 1, page 368.  Mary Anne Rainey was the daughter of John Rainey and Margaret Maxwell.  I am sure these are the people you are looking for. ;)
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 31 May 18 09:19 BST (UK)
     Sorry.  Date of marriage wrong. James Bolton and Mary Ann bowman married in Newtownards in 1872.  My grandfather William James Bolton was born in 1873.  He married Mary Anne Rainey in 1894 Belfast vol 1, page 368.  Mary Anne Rainey was the daughter of John Rainey and Margaret Maxwell.  I am sure these are the people you are looking for. ;)

Did you know most of the vital records are online now? Scanned images of births 1864-1916, marriages 1870-1940 (up to 1921 for N.I. counties), death 1878-1965 (again 1921 for N.I.).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 15:33 BST (UK)
Mary Anne Rainey and William James Bolton married in Newtownards in 1873 were my grandmother and grandfather and I lived in their house in Belfast during the Second World War.  They went on to have nine children, eight of whom survived. They had twentyone grandchildren.  Grandfather died about 1955 and grandmother about 1965.

Jane.k was seeking information in 2014 but I just came across the rootschat yesterday.  I could give more information if I knew who I was talking to or what country they were in. Grandmother had a sister who went to Australia and married someone called Viney.

Hi, I am a Great Grandaughter of Mary Anne and William James. Whereabouts in Belfast did you live with them? Which of their children are you descended from?

Hope to hear back from you soon.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 15:49 BST (UK)
I have never been on rootschat before and am not sure what is allowed and not allowed.  Please let me know who your ancestor was and I will let you know if it is a match.  Also what country you are in.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 16:06 BST (UK)
I have never been on rootschat before and am not sure what is allowed and not allowed.  Please let me know who your ancestor was and I will let you know if it is a match.  Also what country you are in.

Think anything goes (withing reason) and I have told you who my Great Grandparents are, I am in UK. Sorry if I sound evasive but with the internet I like to be careful with information I give out, have sent a message to your inbox.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 17:21 BST (UK)
No you didn't put me off.  I agree with you but I think I have worked out where you fit in. You must be one of uncle Bill and aunt Jenny's great ? Grandchildren.   Kilkeel.  I have only got back to the same as you on the Bolton, Bowman side but I managed to get back to 1808 on the Rainey side because I knew he had been in the British army and a genealogist in London located his army papers.
His name wasn't Rainey it was Maxwell.  Mary Anne's grandfather.  We are limited because of the open forum but don't know how to overcome that.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 17:37 BST (UK)
No you didn't put me off.  I agree with you but I think I have worked out where you fit in. You must be one of uncle Bill and aunt Jenny's great ? Grandchildren.   Kilkeel.  I have only got back to the same as you on the Bolton, Bowman side but I managed to get back to 1808 on the Rainey side because I knew he had been in the British army and a genealogist in London located his army papers.
His name wasn't Rainey it was Maxwell.  Mary Anne's grandfather.  We are limited because of the open forum but don't know how to overcome that.

That explains why I have struggled with the Raineys! Can I ask where in Belfast you lived with your Grandparents? If you don't want to say on the forum reply to my inbox message with the answer as only you and I can see those and you could please let me know your name. :)
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 17:44 BST (UK)
I will have to wait until my children or grandchildren are around as I don't know how to do that.  This is new to me but you need to tell me which cousin, just first name will do.  There were ten.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 17:53 BST (UK)
I will have to wait until my children or grandchildren are around as I don't know how to do that.  This is new to me but you need to tell me which cousin, just first name will do.  There were ten.
  Billy (who was married to Pearl) was my uncle
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 18:29 BST (UK)
I knew you uncle Billy but what is your mothers name?  I would like to know who I am in contact with.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 18:51 BST (UK)
I knew you uncle Billy but what is your mothers name?  I would like to know who I am in contact with.

I would like to know who I am in contact with too can I at least have your first name?
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 19:10 BST (UK)
We will wait until I find out how to use the Dropbox.  Your mother would know who I am just by a series of eliminations.  I have photos of your grandfather as a young man.  Also of my grandparents and two photos of my great grandmothers.  I will be happily to email you these photos when I find out how to do it.  Not computer savvy unfortunately. Is Lily (cissy) still with us?
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 19:57 BST (UK)
We will wait until I find out how to use the Dropbox.  Your mother would know who I am just by a series of eliminations.  I have photos of your grandfather as a young man.  Also of my grandparents and two photos of my great grandmothers.  I will be happily to email you these photos when I find out how to do it.  Not computer savvy unfortunately. Is Lily (cissy) still with us?

I will send message to inbox regarding Cissy.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Thursday 31 May 18 20:38 BST (UK)
Having trouble even replying.  Need to find out how to do this properly.  Sorry to hear about Lily, she must have been a great age.  Everyone was so excited when we heard she was going to England.  Sorry about Orr also, I did know about that when it happened.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Thursday 31 May 18 21:06 BST (UK)
Having trouble even replying.  Need to find out how to do this properly.  Sorry to hear about Lily, she must have been a great age.  Everyone was so excited when we heard she was going to England.  Sorry about Orr also, I did know about that when it happened.

My parents who would be able to figure out who you are at present are on holiday, so at the moment i am unable to work out which part of the family you are from.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 31 May 18 21:11 BST (UK)
You both have enough post to use Personal Message (PM) system-
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: gerig on Friday 01 June 18 01:22 BST (UK)
Jane put your email in my Dropbox.  Trying to find what it is sounds like people are having trouble with it so maybe email s safer.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 01 June 18 09:03 BST (UK)
Not sure why you keep going on about Dropbox but the PM system will allow you to exchange email addresses and other personal information that you don't want everyone to see. Link to details about it in my previous post yesterday.
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Jane_K on Friday 01 June 18 09:50 BST (UK)
Jane put your email in my Dropbox.  Trying to find what it is sounds like people are having trouble with it so maybe email s safer.

Hi I am just about to send my email address to your inbox
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Friday 01 June 18 11:04 BST (UK)
My great aunt Bridget (Edith) McAnulty married Hugh David Bowman in Belfast in the 1930's and then they moved to Yorkshire.

If you know anything about this couple please PM me

Thanks
Title: Re: Bolton and Bowman from Kilmood, Ballygowan/ Newtownards.
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 August 18 23:40 BST (UK)
My great aunt Bridget (Edith) McAnulty married Hugh David Bowman in Belfast in the 1930's and then they moved to Yorkshire.

Married 7 Sept.1934 Belfast registration district (Hugh Bowman & Edith McAnulty) according to GRONI's database.