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Title: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Tuesday 05 August 14 13:56 BST (UK)
On the 1861 census for Banchory Ternan, there is a dwelling house "Tapenroot" which is quite close to Lightwood, but it doesn't appear to be on any old maps.  Can anyone shed some light on this please.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Thursday 21 August 14 14:27 BST (UK)
I've been unable to find any mention of this house at all. Did the name come from an actual census or a transcript?
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Thursday 21 August 14 14:44 BST (UK)
Tapenroot is in the 1861 census records. after Drumfennie, and  prior to Lightwood and the School house at Lightwood. There is a George Laing, Agric lab and family living there.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 21 August 14 14:53 BST (UK)
Have you checked the original on Scotland's People rather than the transcript on a pay site? Some of the interpretations of the Scottish censuses on pay sites leave a lot to be desired ...
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 21 August 14 15:11 BST (UK)
Can you give us some clues as to the location of Drumfennie and Lightwood please?
No luck finding them on Google maps.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Thursday 21 August 14 15:22 BST (UK)
I have a copy of the 1861 census in front of me, which I had printed out at the Aberdeen and North East Scotland family history shop.This is from the original census on film.

The enumerator states "Commencing at Craigton, going east by Hattonburn and along the Skene of Turnpike to Mickleburn, south by (looks like ) Burgham and Mirebird, south west by Bucklebog, west by Mintlets, Bush,Drumfennie, north by Lightwood return again to Craigton.  I may not have the correct spelling for some of the places.

I did contact the Factor of the Burnett Estate, who told me their records dating that far back are with the Special Library at Aberdeen University Archives, so I have asked them to have a look for me, so that I can perhaps pinpoint exactly where my Reid family were living.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 21 August 14 15:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Jessie, I will have a look on a map or two.  :)
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Thursday 21 August 14 16:00 BST (UK)
Ruskie, you'll find Lightwood here, above where it says Banchory Ternan.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/74490398#zoom=5&lat=7631&lon=8652&layers=BT (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74490398#zoom=5&lat=7631&lon=8652&layers=BT)

It's listed in OS name Books along with most of the names mentioned, but no sign of Tapenroot, which is why I wondered if it was a wrong transcription. I can't even see anything it might be.

I've looked at maps, National Archives cat., Scotlandsplaces, newspaper archives, but can find nothing.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Thursday 21 August 14 16:23 BST (UK)
If Tapenroot is after Drumfennie and before Lightwood on the enumerator's round, then I think it must be the un-named building marked approximately half-way between those two.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Thursday 21 August 14 16:28 BST (UK)
I think you are right.  Tapenroot had 3 rooms.  I await from the Special Library in Aberdeen, which may take sometime, after they have looked at rental books.  Of course I will not be able to view these myself until next year on my visit to Banchory.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 22 August 14 00:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for the explanation Isabel. I had to give up on the search as it was getting late, but I was getting nowhere searching the NLS maps.

It does seem logical that the unnamed house was probably Tapenroot.

As Tapenroot appeared in the 1861 census I was attempting (unsuccessfully) to find it on a map of around the same time. I note the one you provided a link to was later than 1861. Have you checked earlier maps in case it was named then, and perhaps was unused and unnamed by the time of the 1885-1900 map?
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Friday 22 August 14 11:49 BST (UK)
I did look at earlier maps, but couldn't find any with that level of detail. 
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 22 August 14 13:02 BST (UK)
I did look at earlier maps, but couldn't find any with that level of detail.

Agree - that map is excellent. I had no luck with earlier maps either.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Friday 22 August 14 15:05 BST (UK)
It has been educational and fun looking at these maps.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Friday 22 August 14 16:30 BST (UK)
Here's another link to the most detailed map I can find, and from roughly the right period. There are more buildings than I previously thought.

http://maps.nls.uk/view/74948151#zoom=4&lat=6847&lon=11508&layers=BT (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74948151#zoom=4&lat=6847&lon=11508&layers=BT)



Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Friday 22 August 14 17:58 BST (UK)
Thank you for that, yes I can see there are more buildings that I had thought.  I just can't wait until next August, to go exploring again.  Will let you know if I hear anymore about Tapenroot.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Friday 22 August 14 21:17 BST (UK)
It is not Tapenroot, it is Tapenreit Wood, the house in the 1861 census records, is now probably named Bush Croft.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: Isabel H on Saturday 23 August 14 13:27 BST (UK)
So the mystery of the house appears to be solved  :) but now I wonder why Tapenreit Wood is not named on maps? There's always something else to puzzle over!
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Saturday 23 August 14 13:38 BST (UK)
I agree, and I think I have solved where my Reid family were actually residing, but waiting for confirmation, probably in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: Banchory ternan
Post by: jessienicolson on Saturday 30 August 14 11:17 BST (UK)
Back on the trail.  In 1822 my Reid family were living at Menmony, Banchory Ternan.  Anyone know roughly where this is, thanks