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Title: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 06 August 14 13:43 BST (UK)
W.H.E. was born on 7 April 1875, in Leigh. He died in Atherton on 28 August 1919.

Looking for information on this guy beyond the routine record.

Would love to speak to living relatives (or anyone else for that matter) who have any interesting anecdotes they'd like to share.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 06 August 14 14:05 BST (UK)
Hi George

Have you tried looking in surname interests under Eckersley - there are several people researching in the Lancashire area - it's at the bottom of the page under your tools :)
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:15 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. There are few members looking into Eckersley families, but not the ones I want.

Cheers,

George.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:36 BST (UK)
Why not try the local papers then?   http://www.leighjournal.co.uk   

I know the Bolton News has a Looking Back section , if the Leigh paper has something similar you might get lucky.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:49 BST (UK)
W.H.E. was born on 7 April 1875, in Leigh. He died in Atherton on 28 August 1919.

Looking for information on this guy beyond the routine record.

Would love to speak to living relatives (or anyone else for that matter) who have any interesting anecdotes they'd like to share.

Hello,
Did he marry and have children? If he didn't you would be wanting information from his siblings' descendants and you're going back a long time.
Do you believe he was the kind of character who would be interesting enough for anecdotes to remain 100 years later?
Do you know more about him than you have posted- WW1 maybe?

Heywood
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:51 BST (UK)
The local papers (Journal, Chronicle, Observer & Reporter) are a great resource and I've trawled over them for years at Leigh Library. I've found his obituary but little more.

The Journal has an on-line archive but it only goes back to the end of the last century and none of the local papers are stored on the British Newspaper Archive.  :(

Keep the ideas coming, I'm all ears!

Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:56 BST (UK)
Have you obtained a copy of his Will? He was a VERY wealthy man!

Probate index entry -
Walter Herbert Eckersley of Atherton Old Hall Leigh Lancashire died 28 Aug 1919 Probate London 10 Dec to Peter Eckersley cotton spinner Joseph Rose Bowden Solicitor and Frank Shaw brewer.
Effects £147,181 - 7s - 2d
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 06 August 14 15:59 BST (UK)
W.H.E. was born on 7 April 1875, in Leigh. He died in Atherton on 28 August 1919.

Looking for information on this guy beyond the routine record.

Would love to speak to living relatives (or anyone else for that matter) who have any interesting anecdotes they'd like to share.

Hello,
Did he marry and have children? If he didn't you would be wanting information from his siblings' descendants and you're going back a long time.
Do you believe he was the kind of character who would be interesting enough for anecdotes to remain 100 years later?
Do you know more about him than you have posted- WW1 maybe?

Heywood

All good questions.

He didn't have children.

He was socially buoyant during his life being from a wealthy family and he married into the Shaw family, wealthy local brewers.

I do know some more about him but only basic stuff like residency occupation etc..
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 06 August 14 16:00 BST (UK)
Have you obtained a copy of his Will? He was a VERY wealthy man!

Probate index entry -
Walter Herbert Eckersley of Atherton Old Hall Leigh Lancashire died 28 Aug 1919 Probate London 10 Dec to Peter Eckersley cotton spinner Joseph Rose Bowden Solicitor and Frank Shaw brewer.
Effects £147,181 - 7s - 2d


I will attempt to get a copy of his will. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 06 August 14 16:01 BST (UK)
Atherton Old Hall: -

http://www.leighlife.com/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=24478
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 06 August 14 16:04 BST (UK)
See

https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/searching-for-probate-records

re obtaining copy of the Will.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: Godfrey Harrison on Tuesday 15 August 17 09:30 BST (UK)
Absolutely fascinating.   My great-aunt, Betsy Jane Pendlebury, married George Shaw in July 1883.   Their daughter, Mary Elizabeth Shaw, was born in 1888 and married Walter Herbert Eckersley.   It would be good to make contact.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Tuesday 15 August 17 14:27 BST (UK)
Absolutely fascinating.   My great-aunt, Betsy Jane Pendlebury, married George Shaw in July 1883.   Their daughter, Mary Elizabeth Shaw, was born in 1888 and married Walter Herbert Eckersley.   It would be good to make contact.

Have PM'd you with my email details.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Tuesday 15 August 17 14:53 BST (UK)
Absolutely fascinating.   My great-aunt, Betsy Jane Pendlebury, married George Shaw in July 1883.   Their daughter, Mary Elizabeth Shaw, was born in 1888 and married Walter Herbert Eckersley.   It would be good to make contact.

I will stand corrected, but I'm fairly sure that Mary Elizabeth was born 4Q 1884. The marriage to Walter was on 6 January 1904. She remarried in Bombay, after Walter's untimely death, to Reginald Vereker Prendergast on 4 October 1925.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: Godfrey Harrison on Tuesday 15 August 17 15:03 BST (UK)
Thank you.   You are quite correct that Mary Elizabeth Shaw was born on 20th October 1884.   My apologies for misquoting the year as being 1888.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Wednesday 22 November 17 20:09 GMT (UK)
Have you obtained a copy of his Will? He was a VERY wealthy man!

Probate index entry -
Walter Herbert Eckersley of Atherton Old Hall Leigh Lancashire died 28 Aug 1919 Probate London 10 Dec to Peter Eckersley cotton spinner Joseph Rose Bowden Solicitor and Frank Shaw brewer.
Effects £147,181 - 7s - 2d

I did eventually acquire a copy of the will c/w probate record. The net value of the estate was shown as £47,757 - 5s - 8d implying aggregate debt in the region of £100k. This was a very successful family of business people all being extremely wealthy in their own right. I'd welcome suggestions  as to what might have been responsible for this deduction which seems somewhat anomalous.
Title: Re: Walter Herbert Eckersley
Post by: George Shaw on Tuesday 26 March 19 10:48 GMT (UK)
An update.

I obtained a copy of Walter's Will and since I last posted some editions of old Leigh newspapers have been digitised in the British Newspaper Archive.

Not learned much more though. For somebody so wealthy he didn't leave many tracks!!