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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: aussie-girl on Tuesday 12 August 14 07:15 BST (UK)
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Looking for any information about Mervyn Quinlan born about 1932 to a Eileen Quinlan in WA.he was murdered in the mid to late 1960's by a Joseph Stilitano... Many Thanks
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Hi aussie-girl
This may be his burial in 1968 http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/results.php
regards,
Ros
I will ask a moderator to move your thread to the queries ... somehow you have landed in resources offered
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On this site http://www.wamarriage.info/ there is a possible marriage for him in 1962 ( but the forenames are reversed). The second name of the wife corresponds to the grantee of the burial
regards,
Ros
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The possible wife's burial http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=FB00034932
(they both seemed to reverse their first 2 names)
regards,
ros
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This seems to be Mervyn in a spot of bother
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49214874
regards,
Ros
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Hi,
May I ask?:
Are you requesting details of the murder?
Leanne
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No,this is not the Mervyn I am looking for, all the times & dates seem to fit,but his mother's name was Eileen, When she died in 1943 he was listed on her death certificate as Robert Mervyn. The mother of the one you found a death for is named as Dorothy. I have been in touch with the Supreme Court Transcripts section & they don't seem to have found anything. Suggested I go to the Library. Any information at all would be helpful... It is believed his father was an aboriginal.But he took his mothers' surname
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Information on death certificates is only a good as the knowledge of the informant.
What was the cause of death of Mervyn Robert QUINLAN whose death was registered in 1969 in WA?
The only Mervyn Robert QUINLAN death registration in the 1960's in WA, Vic, NSW, SA, and Qld is the 1969 death registration in Western Australia.
I notice there was also a soldier named Mervyn Ross QUINLAN in Western Australia. Possibly an error in the newspaper.
Cando
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Obviously born post 1932 in WA or his birth wasn't registered.
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Did his mother marry?
Cando
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I agree, the info provided looks like your man. As Cando pointed out, the info on death is only what the informant provided. Considering Mervyn's mother Eileen died when he was very young, either an incorrect name has been provided or Dorothy may have been a significant mother figure in his life. The death certificate would clarify his cause of death which in this case would confirm or eliminate this Mervyn.
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his mother's name was Eileen, When she died in 1943 he was listed on her death certificate as Robert Mervyn
Using what surname and where did Eileen die in 1943? How do you know that her son Robert Mervyn was using the surname QUINLAN.
As Ros pointed out this man's name is Robert Mervyn on the marriage registration
QUINLAN Robert Mervyn
SARGEANT Hariet Pauline
District Perth Reg#1016 1962
You need the death certificate to confirm or eliminate this man from your research.
Cando
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Yes mother married a Bell . I believe he didn't have a birth certificate & when he wanted to go into the Army his mother registered him in her name. He was murdered by a Joseph Stilitano
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Marriage
QUINLAN Eileen A
BELL Robert J
District Perth Reg#1227 1932
I can't see his mother's death as a BELL in WA in 1943 only an Eileen A BAKER in 1943.
All aside you need the 1969 death certificate to help you progress with your research.
May I ask the source of the information about Robert Mervyn's death?
Cando
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And this appears to be second marriage
BELL Eileen A
BAKER William G
District Perth Reg#1902 1942
Cando
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This chap was my husbands' cousin,although they didn't have any contact. Yes his mother also married a Baker...I guess the only way to truly find any answers is to sit & shift through tons of newspapers at the library....perish the thought!!!
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Why not purchase 1969 death certificate. It would give the cause of death.
You have the exact date of death from the cemetery record - 12 Dec 1968. I would search in the newspapers around that date.
This man was known as Mervyn Robert..and a soldier
Western Australian 19 Jun 1953
Mervyn Robert Quinlan (20); soldier, of the military camp, Karrakatta
This Mervyn Robert's wife did not enrol to vote until 1980.
The surname is spelt STILLITANO...two LL's. There is no need to keep repeating information you posted in your intial request.
Cando
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I believe he didn't have a birth certificate & when he wanted to go into the Army his mother registered him in her name
Aileen Agnes BAKER nee QUINLAN formerly BELL died in 1943 aged 34 years and Mervyn Robert/Robert Mervyn would have been c11 years of age so so his mother couldn't have registered his birth when he enlisted years after her death.
Cando
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I guess the only way to truly find any answers is to sit & shift through tons of newspapers at the library....perish the thought!!!
If you live in Western Australia you can obtain a free e-card from State Library of Western Australia http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/ which enables you to search W.A newspapers online
regards,
Ros
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I do Ros, but it is only from2004 onwards. Another clue is that Mervyn worked at Coperative Bulk Handling around the Northam area in the 60's
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He did not enrol to vote so unable to track his addresses from the electoral rolls.
You wrote he was in the army. You have been given information that he called himself Mervyn Robert QUINLAN when a soldier. Just because his name was written Robert Mervyn on his mother's death certificate and the informant may have been her second husband whom she married the year before she died, doesn't make it correct.
You need to have an open mind when doing family research and pursue all avenues including spending some dollars occasionally.
You were given the same information from your query on another family history forum.
Cando
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I believe he didn't have a birth certificate & when he wanted to go into the Army his mother registered him in her name.
Obviously born post 1932 in WA or his birth wasn't registered.
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Birth:
QUINLAN Robert M (male) b. 1932 PERTH #2385
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Birth:
QUINLAN Robert M (male) b. 1932 PERTH #2385
Thanks Merlin...I know I need new specs ::) but I think I only searched for Mervyn ::) so the story that his birth was registered when he enlisted appears to be incorrect.
Cando
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/019ej/
West Australian 20 Oct 1940
NUIS PRUIS
Eileen Agnes Bell v. Robert James Bell
I wonder if Mervyn Robert/Robert Mervyn ever used the BELL.
Cando
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Eileen Agnes QUINLAN also had twin sons 1929 (stillborn):
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/wa/kellerberrin/kellerberrinozdata.htm
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Eileen in court in 1935 ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019ek/
Cando
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/019el/
Decree Nisi 3 Oct 1940
Eileen Agnes Bell from Robert James Bell. Ground: Respondent's non-compliance with a maintenance order. Counsel: Mr. W. W. Watkins.
Cando
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/019em/
1937 Two children of the marriage.
Cando
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Merle Margaret born 1935 is the only child to Bell. I take you comments on board Cando..
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There is an online tree that only shows one female of the marriage. So the 4 year old child in Jan 1937 ie born 1932 would have been Mervyn Robert?
Cando
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That is correct & I mentioned his father before
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It would appear from her death notice that Mervyn may possibly have been known as BELL at some stage of his life.
The West Australian Mon 23 Aug 1943
DEATHS
BAKER August 21 1943 at Perth Hospital, Eileen Agnes of 43 Lord-street East Perth. dearly beloved wife of William George (late of Norseman) (ex Naval Dockyard Police): loving mother of Mervyn and Merle Bell: loved daughter of Mrs Quinlan (Perth): fond sister of Mary (Mrs H.Wallington). Bridget (Sister M. Eymard). Margaret (Mrs C. Manning). Ronnie (Mrs G. Lemmon), Gordon. Ted, Bub, sister-in-law of Harry, Charlie and George; loving aunt of Patsy, Frank, Harry, Colin, Peter, Margaret and Robert; aged 34 years.
Sadly missed by all.
Cando
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Great find Cando :) That should help aussie-girl fill in a few gaps.
cheers,
Ros
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Even though I did have all the information mentioned ,I do appreciate all the effort everyone has gone to. I have sent for a Death Certificate & will post the result when it arrives. Once again , a big thank you. AG
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Even though I did have all the information mentioned ,I do appreciate all the effort everyone has gone to. I have sent for a Death Certificate & will post the result when it arrives. Once again , a big thank you. AG
In my experience, a good way to avoid getting information you have already is to make clear at the very beginning exactly what you have. You can also post links to previous enquiries you have made on this or other forums. Saying you want information about a person and then saying you have it already when it is provided may lead to frustration on all sides ::)
Your statement about the murder remains confusing.
Where did you get that information.
One man named STILLITANO was charged with murder in 1956 in WA. The name of the victim was Archangelo MACRI.
There was a lot in the papers at the time
Sue
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If there is any more information on Mervyn Robert Quinlan. I would be interested in reading as I am is grandaughter. My mother would like to find out about her father as she was really young when he was murdered and does not know about this family. Any information your be appreciated. Please and thank you.
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Hi Chantellerose,
There is a lot of information in this thread which I am sure you have read.
What in particular do you want to know?
Sue